Good advice. However, I believe that is the hard way and rewards only those who really go the extra mile. Let's say the provider is Jennifer in LA (just an example)...there are 8 listings, and a search under the name in the past year on the LA board revealed over 50 threads. I think it is fair to say that the inclusion of reviews for no-shows have more of an adverse effect on the provider than a mention on the boards. I agree that reviews should reflect the details of a meeting as that lets the hobbyist know what to expect regarding services. However, reports of no-shows tell what to expect in terms of reliability...also useful info in itself. If there is a meeting and things are bad where no actual services are performed et. total rip off" that counts as a review I believe. A no show is a form or rip off also....money is not lost, but time is....Time has value to providers...and it has value to hobbyists also. I would not want to see a provider who does this regardless of looks-performance etc. That is just me as I just think it is so wrong to treat someone this way that TER should make it as easy as possible to identify those who do this.
Was looking for my 1st punt, so did my due research. Picked a "older" provider, as I'm no spring chicken myself, who had many, very positive, reviews, and I liked the look of her on her web page.
Exchanged e-mails, where I offered to provide any information required for screening, which she did not request. She even noted in one reply that it appeared that I was "new" at this. The final e-mail I received was on the morning of the appointment, confirming the time, and providing her incall address, access code, and cell number, together with a comment about calling if I would "like to talk", which I didn't take her up on.
That evening, arrived at the appointed address 5 minutes early. No reply to the "buzz in" phone. Waited around for around 1/2 hour, trying access code every 5 minutes. Nothing. So, left to go home, feeling very disappointed. Called at that point, and left a polite message asking her to call me back. I also sent another e-mail the next day, asking what was the problem, and if it was some "newbie" screw-up on my part, which I don't think so, as the last communication was her confirmation note. I also indicated that I still wanted to see her. So far, no reponses.
I thought I'd done eveything "by the book" so was kinda surpised, based on her reviews, that this happened. Does it happen often. Do I just chalk this up to "experience" and try agin, even though I feel somewhat deflated.
Cheers.
She may have figured you change your mind when you didn't call her.Most providers like to talk to their prospective new clients to sort of get a vibe on them before seeing them.If you still want to see her I'd wait a month or so and then try her again,only call her first.If you don't get a response again,then I'd move onto someone else.Yep,chalk this one up as a learning experience for you.Don't sweat it though,it'll get easier for you!
In which case, the note should have requested me to call, not "if you would like to call".
I also let her know that I would still like to see her, which left the door ajar for her to reply "Ooops sorry, let's try again". Which obviously, from the lack of reply, she doesn't.
Cheers.
This ocassionally will happen to almost all of us. Chalk it up to experience and step up to the plate again. Even Babe Ruth didn't get a hit every at bat.
If she doesn't email you back over the next month (to tell you about the emergency that kept her from meeting or responding to you) I suggest you then post what you have written above as a review of that provider. This site is supposed to help fellow hobbyists... doing this will also discourage her from a habit of bad business practice.
There should be a TER category for no-shows. A hobbyist should be allowed to select no-show, give the appointment date and time and city. No other information should be allowed. The information would allow a provider to contest it if she is being wrongly accused. Uncontested no-show information would give hobbyists that may want to see the lady a red flag of warning.
I like to call and talk with the lady to confirm before I go to the place. I make most of the appointments these days the same day or the night before. If I make it the night before I make sure to tell them I must call to confirm before I leave that day because I normally have a ways to drive. Maybe she didn't think you were going to come because you didn't call to confirm the email. When sending an email describe yourself in detail, including what you do for work. She sounds sort of unprofessional to me, I'd try someone else. There's a zillion others out there.
I think TER should allow the posting of reviews of no-shows. This is extremely rude. It happened to me last week..well reviewed...finally reached her 2 days later and was told that this was part of the nature of this business!! I was extremely inconvenienced and did everything correctly in the scheduling process. Since this can not be detailed in a review, there is no effective mechanism on TER to stop this. Mentioning it, even with names in the boards is not effective as this gets buried under new postings in a few days. Don't you think it serves everyone to allow this to get posted under the review section?
I disagree, since a review should reflect the details of a meeting, and no meeting actually occurs during a no-show. I think the proper place for such a report is on the appropriate regional discussion board.
The information will still be searchable, so it is not really lost (any good provider reseach effort should also include searching the message forums, btw). To make that easier, be sure to include her name, web site, contact info, and the words 'no-show' in your message post.
For best effect, just keep it factual without attaching any emotional reactions involved. And the next time an ad post appears for her, all you have to do is post a message containing a link to your no-show post, stating 'this was my experience with her'. That is plenty effective.
You may wish to place a suggestion on the 'Suggestion & Policy' board, although I think it may have already been addressed there. Rather than actually writing a full new non-review, perhaps a better solution would be to have a no-show counter on each provider profile that indicates both tendency and frequency:
delivered as promised: Yes
on time: Yes
availability: Daytime/Nighttime
porn star: Don't Know
no-shows: Yes - 8
Just a thought...
Good advice. However, I believe that is the hard way and rewards only those who really go the extra mile. Let's say the provider is Jennifer in LA (just an example)...there are 8 listings, and a search under the name in the past year on the LA board revealed over 50 threads. I think it is fair to say that the inclusion of reviews for no-shows have more of an adverse effect on the provider than a mention on the boards. I agree that reviews should reflect the details of a meeting as that lets the hobbyist know what to expect regarding services. However, reports of no-shows tell what to expect in terms of reliability...also useful info in itself. If there is a meeting and things are bad where no actual services are performed et. total rip off" that counts as a review I believe. A no show is a form or rip off also....money is not lost, but time is....Time has value to providers...and it has value to hobbyists also. I would not want to see a provider who does this regardless of looks-performance etc. That is just me as I just think it is so wrong to treat someone this way that TER should make it as easy as possible to identify those who do this.
And that'll possibly result in one of 2 things.
I'll either be accused of lying or having personal reasons to slander the lady. As well as having excellent reviews, she aslo has been recommended in the boards by a number of posters and she has been know to post here herself as well.
Or, I'll be blacklisted by every provider on TER, because a newbie shouldn't be "attacking" an established provider like that.
Cheers.
The counter is a great idea.
..... I usually travel on weekends. My greeting on my voicemail plainly states..... I am not available on weekends, when I am in town I answer my phone 9AM until 6PM.
I still listen to a dozen or so voicemails left over the weekend and it never ceases to amaze me when I hear:
Hi Tori this is Bill, it is 11:30 on Friday night I am at the Holiday Inn downtown in room 541 do you think you can meet with me for an hour and be here by midnight? Call me back ok....
next message- Hi Tori Bill again it's 12:15 were you coming over? I guess you got tied up or something........
~And it just continues... so before we start adding up cancellations I think there might be a need for proof of the provider's agreement to meet at a specific time, if we are going to start keeping a count of these "no shows"
For that matter, I even get messages from established client's that say.... I know it's Tuesday but is 4:30 on Wednesday good for you... ok, I'll see you then.
Unless a provider makes an agreement to meet at a specific time, it is not an appointment!!
I understand that this was not the case in Britguys situation but it has happened to me... and does every weekend for that matter. So, we might need a better way to count those no-shows. (*At least a mention on the discussion board gives the provider the opportunity to defend herself*) Just my thoughts... kisses ~Tori
I too had a no-show a few weeks ago. As you can read, it was an unsettling event for me. Really felt like crap afterwards. She eventually emailed back after 8 days. I accepted the reason, but it still left a bad taste (so to speak) and I probably won't venture to that city for a LONG time. I prefer to stick with my ATF until she gets sick of me
as by clicking on the link we find it has been removed. I am making an assumption that the mod took it down for some reason.
Now I like atl mgr's advice yet while reading it, I'm thinking to myself, "right, watch how long this post stays up on this provider with 10 pages of reviews and white knights galore". ummmm