Lots of providers seem to require references.  However,  unless I am missing something, the agencies do not.  Will agency associated providers usually provide references after you have a date?  Or is the reference side of things only related to the independent providers.  some providers require more than one reference and I am just wondering how the agencies fit into this.  Why don't agencies require references in the first place?  Thanks,  clownboy2

This generally happens less with agencies because many agencies could care less if something happens to the girl.  That is why you end up getting bait and switch and cash and dash....when more questions are asked, generally you are getting something a bit more higher class.  If you prefer agencies, then by all means, keep yourself happy.  However, you are spending way more to take care of the agency than you are towards the girl...think about that.  Where would you rather have your hard earned bills going??  I would stick to independents.
MadisonAZ

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Agencies could care less .... all they want is your cash .... When you ask for a certain girl "Cindy" you''ll get one girl the first night and 3 different girls all claiming to be "Cindy" the following nights.  They keep very poor records if any at all and the girls have no real source to contact you.  I can remember in my early days I used an agency and the girl that showed up couldn't remember the name she was suppose to be using that night, she had 5 diffeerent business cards with her home phone on them all with different names and agencies she worked for .. stick with the indies that have their OWN websites and you'll be fine... as for references not all ladies ask for them .. build up a rapport with one, and you'll be ok....

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well i guess SOMEONE in this thread had to say something mildly positive about agencies and getting referrals from them, and i guess it'll have to be me!

while it's true that most agencies don't care and have high turnover rates with girls, some DO care and lookout for their girls. just how carefully they screen is another matter. i'd like to think they at least compare your fullname/address against a database of "bad clients"  which they may  have compiled or even shared with other providers (but this is very rare i think)

the truth is i have successfully used an agenciy as reference to meet indies and the proprietress of the agency, while at first reluctant to do so, soon realized that by NOT providing references for me she'd actually risk losing my business

a seasoned indy in my town told me that whenever agencies give her a hard time with vouching for a guy, she simply tells them "fine then, i guess i'll just have him contact you" and she says right away they come clean and give her the facts ("we've known him for 2 years, he's always been good, generous, safe, etc"

moral of the story:  if you have established good business relations with an agency you should be able to use them to get references (heck, i did, so can you)

There may be an agency out there somewhere, but in Las Vegas it's pretty slim pickin's.