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My first review - how to get it? Advice from ladies or gents...sad_smile
caramelgia 2496 reads
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I'm a little daunted by this medium. Forgive me in advance for this long post.

I started in this business in an unconventional way, and have worked by one on one contacts. I'm a working professional by day, and started by providing while away from my hometown. I'm attractive, so lots of men try to pick me up while traveling on business. I used that to my advantage, letting them flirt a bit, then giving a business card to them with my alias and email address, piquing their interest and starting the questions as to what they would have to do to take me out and/or to my room. I charged them $500 flat for the whole date at that point, whether it was an hour or three since I was already traveling with expenses paid. It was exciting and financially rewarding.

I liked seeing no more than one guy per day. They praised my sensuality, intelligence, and presentation...and my performance, too :) I have quite a package to offer and these businessmen appreciated it all.

Now, I want to branch out for more business, and perhaps stop my day job...so I fine-tuned my message and rates via a website, advertised on eros, and prepared myself to invest more into this endeavor. But, how do I get my first review? If the audience here only goes out with reviewed ladies, and I'm new...which comes first, the chicken or the egg?

The other conundrum is - for a new provider (even though my site presents all the needed info) am I screening too much? I ask for membership info to TER or ASPD, references, full name and business (title and phone number for employment verfication), or any roomservice, preferred411, or datecheck ID.

The men that have called me seem nervous to even give me their name. They want to meet within hours of their call on a Saturday evening. They don't sound like they're savvy enough to know that I'm definitely going to screen them. Then they ask for prices and don't seem to have even seen my website...so how do I get to the clientele via eros/ter/aspd that I'm used to meeting while in the Admiral's Club during a layover or while staying on the club/concierge floor of the JW Marriott?

My Giafest marketing idea was nice, but didn't attract any ter members. I picked the W hotel, had wine, fruit, and candles laid out, gave each guy a great gfe, but they definitely weren't experienced hobbyists. They didn't know what to expect from my and were blown away by how nice it was...one guy told me that his last attempt at an escort ended when he showed up and she had to usher pot-smoking friends and their kids out of her room.

Without reviews here I can't become a listed provider, I won't get the credibility to attract the proper clientele, and I'll be forced to keep my boring day job (or get arrested/murdered after advertising on CL). HELP!?!?

-Desperately seeking semen ;)

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-- Modified on 9/5/2009 7:54:32 PM

Are any of your repeat/steady clients TER members?  If so, ask them for a review.  If they are good guys, they will understand your conundrum, and should be happy to help you out.

Another question is whether you are doing enough to attract TER hobbyists?  The Big Easy does not have a local board here, and that probably works against you.  Maybe you should consider widening your presence into places where TER is a presence (such as Atlanta), that have an active hobby community that you can become part of?   I am suggesting Atlanta only because it's closer to you than places up north and out west.  Some ladies do better when on the road...

Only a couple suggestions, from a hobbyist who plays mostly in NYC.  Enjoy the rest of your LD week-end!

caramelgia1809 reads

Thanks! None of my guys are on TER, but I think I should widen my presence. I've been told Boston is a great hobbytown and I love it up there. Maybe I should visit...

xoxo

But Beantown does have an active hobby community, so go for it if you like it there.  You might also wish to test the waters in NYC (my home ground), and/or DC if you decide to tour.

shudaknownbetter2442 reads

I understand that there is no board really local to you.  However, if you travel, advertize on TER's local Board for that area, you'll attract TER members.  Not all TER members review but many do.  At least they'll know what you're talking about.
skb

Ok gia,

You are number one a beautiful women. I love the site. I as well am in the process of investing more into the hobby .. meaning the site etc.  

But i will say this : Keep your day job ! Do not jump into this world and think it will be longevity and enough every month to pay your bills . You are new. This hobby takes time. To work out the kinks, To meet great people, To make  a name for your self, To develop a great following. Do not think because you have had some clients and its good money it will get even better or youll meet a rich daddy!   I am simply keeping it real with you.

reviews take time to get, men now in days dont always write them for a couple of reason, Number one i have heard of a few men getting caught in a sting or two by what they wrote, number to sometimes the reviews arent all real any way. number three some men want there personal lives.. personal .

Keeping your day job is not only your back up, But your legit reason for being able to pay your bills ! Use the money from the hobby as a savings ( not in the bank) and use your Day job money for your bills. This hobby isnt forever, and everyone has there time span.

In regards to men your attracting.. Every man has a different walk of life. from your speaking and your web it looks like your looking for a long term arrangement. with someone, or someone with the large bank account. NOW im not knocking the hustle.. But this takes time.. And not every man can or will want to do this. Some men are AMAZING , and honestly have the money .. but is only looking for a quick fantasy. Sometimes.. They dont even like black women , they prefer white.. Some men save up for months to be able to do this, and have been waiting for the right time FOR THEM to see you. This is the name of the game, And it always changes. You have to stick it out. it will not happen over night.

Ok lastly, the website, By no means take my advise to hard, hell mine needs work. BUT heres what i see... Its a tad hard to get threw. I would fix the picture quotes.. they say text at the bottom of each. And the part when asking about there fav books and drink etc. .. over kill. this hobby is private and simple. legit men have no problem giving info but to much info is worrisome over the net.
Stick to your rules on the background info - Take away the WERE DO YOU WORK STUFF. if you have a P411 check and a ref,.. your over killing it.. AND not at the status to request that info. a four hr min.. isnt fair either. Some men arent looking for that so your limiting your chances.. and some men cant afford four hrs. Dont discuss prices over the phone. If someone ask. Tell them to visit your web site. STICK TO THIS. trust me.

AND stop over thinking. Go with your gut. This is the oldest profession in the world. sex is sex. :)

have fun out there. and be safe love. Any questions.. find me. Im new to but have learned allot along the way :)

caramelgia3274 reads

Thanks, Bella. I appreciate the advice, I really do. I'll take what I need, that I believe is valuable, and use it. However, to tell me that some men save up their money and sometimes they don't prefer black women, but white instead...kind of ruined your overall message. Whatever we are, someone can always prefer something else. That is not something you need to remind me, or anyone else.

I love the fact that some men prefer women with advanced degrees, soft caramel skin, long wavy hair, electric caresses, and an eagerness to please that knows no bounds. Just like in that movie, I can tell you the Latin word for banana before I put his whole one in my mouth. No matter what race...that's hot. At least, to the guy in my target market.

So, I won't take offense to that statement.

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Then got testy about the response?  

You got a well thought out reply touching on several key areas from someone who has been where you are, and you pissed on it.

Next time just tell everyone what you want to hear so they can just say that...

caramelgia1131 reads

I didn't piss on it, I expressed my appreciation because of the many points that I read from Bella. Thanks to her I have quite a few tasks on my to-do list.

I think I very clearly stated what I don't want to hear....which is, to be specific, offensive to me.

So, again. Thanks to Bella and the others. I don't think she meant to offend or she wouldn't have given such a nice, long answer.

To you, I can only say that I'm sorry my response offended you. It wasn't intended to. Feel free not to respond to any of my posts/questions/comments in the future.

Isn't it nice to live in a country where the self-righteous can tell someone who was offended that they, too, were offended :)

Enough negativity for one post - my questions were innocent enough, and my response, though sharp, was the result of a negative day. If you were also having one, I hope tomorrow is better.

I wasn't trying to just say " men prefer white women" i was saying everyone has a preference, the preference may be different where you are located. Me myself i live in a area of mostly Caucasian people.. I love it.. but i do understand sometimes i am not the flavor of the month. Its just how it goes. A man is wanting a fantasy, Sometimes i wasn't the fantasy they want.. they wanted the asian school girl, or the naughty wife that theres isnt.  Its just how it is. I am also a women of color ( black and puerto rican.. so i was just saying how it is.

And In regards to the man saving his money - YES it does happen when a man has seen your ad, and cant afford you today... BUT next month can. I personally love those clients all the same and appreciate him all the same. I am a fantasy.. As well as you.I cater to every man who can afford me today, I care not of his personal bank account because HONESTLY, Its not mine.. and at the end of the night he isnt handing me a card and telling me to go wild. He is paying me for my service. at the end of the night he goes home to his life, his wife, his issues, and i to mine.. Its my job, your job, our job as women to take them away from there ish... and make them happy.  If you dont see that.. then your in the wrong profession.

And yes.. everyone appreciates that you are a smart, beautiful women. As well as I. If you read my comments in full you would have seen that I wasn't being negative .. but only to make a friend.. and give great advise. replying with negative comments on a national bored is only dis-classless... in the eyes of the men you so wish to please....

If you dont like the answers.. dont ask the questions..

Best of luck to you !

Bella.

have a web site or web listing?  Without a web pressence, a hobbyist can not write a review of his date with you.  

Also, the web site needs the TER logo.  More details can be found in the Newbie Manual at the top.  You might also want to search for other threads about "getting started".  Good luck!

caramelgia1452 reads

I've got a website, tagged the logo on the front page...and am ready for the rest :)

shudaknownbetter1312 reads

You've already gotten good advise...  but I think Bella really hit the nail on the head.  You should think long & hard before quitting your day job.  You should read up on the legal board & talk to your accountant about paying taxes & showing means of support.  Everything changes when you MUST provide to eat, pay rent, etc.
My ATF has a day job...  & I know others who do.  It can work out well.   In any event, if you think you want to increase your volume, try doing so around your day job.

Be very careful...  increasing your meetings raises your risk.

I do agree 4 hours is a very long interval.  Most guys want an hour or 2.  You could do this after work.
skb

caramelgia1775 reads

Point taken, and trust me, I won't jump into this as my sole means of support right off the bat. I just want to expand and see if that's possible. Thanks for the advice. I'll be careful, and anticipate 1 or 2 hour sessions.

xoxo

She sure did.  It's all about patience, girl.  The men here on TER are the best.  Kind, helpful, generous, intelligent.  They are the kind of men you want to keep time with.

However, they're gonna see if you're a keeper before booking with you.  As a new provider myself I had to be patient for my first review.  It did NOT happen overnight.  And actually, it happened rather quickly in my case but I got pretty lucky in meeting just the right gentleman at the right time.  It doesn't happen that often.  Still, I was a full month into making a presence here on TER before anyone would consider seeing me.

And it's a constant thing.  Now, don't get me wrong, I LOOOOOVE the TER boys.  They're hysterical!!!  You'll see for yourself but you HAVE TO STICK AROUND!  A lot of our ladies post once or twice and think they've made themselves known.  Not so.  You gotta post and keep posting, let the boys know what's going on with you, get into the discussions, be yourself.  You can have a great time on this board if you keep coming back to it and really make an effort in getting yourself known.

You've got a leg up.  You're obviously articulate, educated and classy.  That's a cut above for an escort and a lady a real and true gentleman will want to spend time with.  That sentence was a little run-on but you get my general idea.

Good luck!!!

PS - Too much Flash on your site, not enough content.  It's pretty but it's hard to navigate through and it didn't tell me a whole heck of a lot about you.  You may want to cut the glitter and go for the guts.  Get it sectional into clear, concise areas where our boys can find out exactly what they want to know about you.  Rates/Services/Calendar/Rules/Pics/Blahblahwoofwoof.  It really makes it easier on the ones looking to get a date if they can access everything they need to know before they book.



caramelgia1024 reads

Gracias,
I'll work on the site...I love the background, but the flash IS a bit much.

I'll look through more of the sites you ladies have up to get a better idea of what needs to be done.

Thanks again :)

I viewed your website and your dark font on a dark background was hard to read.

Commercial websites should be easy to read and navigate and work efficiently on older computers like mine.

I would suggest you review and see if you can make it more user friendly.

caramelgia1305 reads

Thanks Michael,
I'd love for you to check back on it in a week or so and tell me what you think. I'm completely revamping it...my new Adobe CS4 package will come in handy :)

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