Others may disagree, but while I think it's legit to include that the session didn't completely meet expectations, you still need to grade her on effort and what services were actually performed. Sounds like while she didn't merit a 9, she doesn't deserve a 6 either. But, no, I don't think your expectations were too high.
I'm struggling with the ratings for my first review and keeping it fair. I think it has to do with my expectations, which might be unreasonably high.
I saw a very well-reviewed provider with high ratings. She was more beautiful than her pictures, but performance-wise I was let down. It was not the GFE I was looking for. She definitely did not like kissing me. Other reviewers have experienced DFK and the "making out like teenagers" experience that I was desperately hoping for, but that didn't happen for me. We would LFK frequently, but briefly, as she'd turn her head away after a few kisses. That actually kind of hurt my feelings, and killed the mood a bit. I showered before she arrived, and used mouthwash three times, so I don't think it was a hygiene issue. I hate slobbery and aggressive kissing and prefer a more sensual time so I don't think it was my technique. I didn't think I was ugly, but who knows. Our time together just very much felt like I was with a provider. I don't think she liked me, but she tried hard to hide it. We had to use lots of lube as the natural kind was not happening. She did try hard to please me. MSOG, BBBJ, DATY (she was nice enough to fake an orgasm). It wasn't a bad time, just not what I'd hoped for. She stayed the whole time and it wasn't a rushed experience.
If I were to grade her performance based on effort, it'd probably be an 8 or 9. Based on results and how I felt though, more like a 6 or 7. Am I being too harsh? Are my expectations too high?
It happens, just roll with it, however, if it starts to happen frequently, then you may have an issue.
I saw a very well-reviewed provider with high ratings. She was more beautiful than her pictures, but performance-wise I was let down. It was not the GFE I was looking for. She definitely did not like kissing me. Other reviewers have experienced DFK and the "making out like teenagers" experience that I was desperately hoping for, but that didn't happen for me. We would LFK frequently, but briefly, as she'd turn her head away after a few kisses. That actually kind of hurt my feelings, and killed the mood a bit. I showered before she arrived, and used mouthwash three times, so I don't think it was a hygiene issue. I hate slobbery and aggressive kissing and prefer a more sensual time so I don't think it was my technique. I didn't think I was ugly, but who knows. Our time together just very much felt like I was with a provider. I don't think she liked me, but she tried hard to hide it. We had to use lots of lube as the natural kind was not happening. She did try hard to please me. MSOG, BBBJ, DATY (she was nice enough to fake an orgasm). It wasn't a bad time, just not what I'd hoped for. She stayed the whole time and it wasn't a rushed experience.
If I were to grade her performance based on effort, it'd probably be an 8 or 9. Based on results and how I felt though, more like a 6 or 7. Am I being too harsh? Are my expectations too high?
Others may disagree, but while I think it's legit to include that the session didn't completely meet expectations, you still need to grade her on effort and what services were actually performed. Sounds like while she didn't merit a 9, she doesn't deserve a 6 either. But, no, I don't think your expectations were too high.
99% of the time, bad breath does not reside in the mouth, so mouthwash is a waste of time and money.
Bad breath comes from the lungs, and is frequently tied to the food we eat which releases chemicals that remain in the blood steam for days and manifest themselves when the blood passes through the lungs. Garlic is the most common offender, but there are others as well.
So, if you are not getting any where with kissing, and especially if you find this with other providers, I suggest you check out your diet and eliminate foods like garlic and any others with strong spicy tastes.
I did this several years ago and now gals who would never kiss me engage in DFK all the time with me.
Things are often a trade off in life.
(still not a dietician)
I couldn't agree more!!! Some people don't realize what their breath smells like and they feel that mouthwash should take care of it. It might mask the odor for a few minutes but eventually it comes all out and the poor girl has no recourse but to turn her head to avoid inhaling...
So no garlic, no onions, no spicy food... We make the same sacrifices. 
Mr. Fisher is absolutely correct that your diet will affect your breath and I have scientific evidence to prove it. I have two dogs, one called" booger" and the other is named "snot" (no kidding). Booger always eats Snots poop. Snot never eats Boogers poop. Booge'rs breath always smells like shit even hours after dining on the poop. Snot always has clean smelling breath and she is the one I let kiss and lick me. Proof!
As far as your experience goes, you have every right to grade as you see fit in your review, but remember that it's your first review and you will use it to see other girls for credibility... Whenever you book with providers they can see your grading. If you grade a lady who was a 9/10 as a 6, nobody will see you because they will think of you are a jerk or a high maintenance newbie with hygiene issues (even if you are working on them) who will likely ruin their reputation... Some may not care, but I know I would try my best to avoid seeing you. Hopefully your next experience will be better.
Reviews are for the benefit of other mongers, not for propping up the reputations of providers. If you feel that she gave a 6 performance, by all means rate her a 6. Or a 9, if that's what you really think.
Don't worry too much about providers being scared off. Any who choose their clientele based on their puffed up ratings, probably aren't worth it anyway.
Yes, reviews are for the other men reading them. That is ONE of the purposes, and for that one it is best to be as objective as possible, good or bad.
But reviews are for the ladies as well--it IS advertizing for them, and one way to show appriiation for a nice date is to write a nice HONEST review.
The third purpose of a review is to establish your own reputation. For the most part I only read the reviews of other guys whose reputation I trust--I compair their views to my views on ladies we have both seen to find guys who have similar tastes. But a reviewer's reputation is seen by the ladies as well.
It is all well and good for someone like rightonpeople to tell you not to worry about the consequences, but it clearly not his rep that is affected by what you say, it is yours. And how much your rep will be influenced depends upon a lot of factors.
--Obviously it depends upon whether the lady you try to see reads TER, or even knows it exists. If she never sees it it won't affect matter what your reviewing history is. In the same way, if she does read TER but does not make the connection between "you", the guy who asked her for a date, and your handle here, it will not have any impact.
--Your reviewing history. I have 30+ reviews. Not a lot by some guys standards, but enough to establish a pattern. I do diligent homework, make sure a lady is likely to apeal to my tastes, and have been fortunate to have very few bad experiences. As a result most my scores are 8s, 9s, and 10s. But occasionally I slip up and see someone without doing my homework and have had a less good date--thus resulting in lower numbers. But I have enough of a reputation that a 6/5 type review would likely be seen even by the other ladies as a reflection on who I saw, not that I became a tough grader. If, however, I had 30 reviews averaging 6/5, my reviews are more likely to be seen as the writings of a curmudgeon who can hurt a woman's business. In that case, why would she want to see me?
--Her review history. If a woman has little or no track record it would be difficult for your review to be deemed "out of line". But when a lady has a well documented history of high scores and someone tosses in a "where did this come from" score it WILL raise some eyebrows. Off days, non-connections, etc DO happen, but if you have 3 reivews and she has 100 consistent ones, who do you think has more board cred?
I am NOT saying you should avoid writing a valid review, I am just saying understand the implications to you. This can be best mitigated by a simple rule: the more negative the review, the more objective, specific, and unemotional it should be. A comment such as "When I saw her there was something about her face that did not apeal to me." vs "How can so many guys say she's a 9, I thought she was a dog". Or "She seemed to try hard on the BBBJ, but it wasn't doing it for me today." vs "What a worthless hag, I was looking for a good BBBJ and her's sucked in a bad way."
Always EXPECTING grade inflation and the herd mentality of it.
Since this is the newbie board, I will leave it at that.
He asked for opinions, I gave mine. I don't see why that hurts you. And you know it's true, every provider will look at a client's reviews and scores if he uses his TER handle to book. A fact is a fact, no matter how you try to ignore it.
Because providers like you don't want honest scores. You want everything inflated to suit YOUR expectations.
The reviews are here for we hobbyists to determine if a provider is worth seeing or not and deserves our hard earned cash.
Your telling a newbie to "proceed with caution" like there are repercussions looming is out of line for this forum. Save the theatrics for the GD Board.
It is HIS review to write, and I reiterate that his review needs to be honest and from his perspective. Period the end.
Sweety, you clearly drank too much of your own cool aid. I have nothing more to add (and neither do you. At least nothing of value.)
he might hurt his chances of getting more of the same.
that the more negative the post, the more likely the poster cannot read? That is NOT the point and I strongly suspect you know that. I thought the purpose of this board was to give newbies useful information, not to set them up with half-truths. You and Hank are very willing to have a newbie rush out in front of the train while you sit back. Kind of you when you and your aliases will not be hit by any splashback.
Yes, honesty is very important, and all reviews should be honest. But that is only part of the story and since this is the newbie board folks like you should give them the FULL story. And there are many ways to write an honest review.
That isn't the point EAG meant to make, but it's an accurate summary of the implications. Arguing that the OP should temper his honesty for fear of some onrushing train doesn't seem very positive to me. I'm only advising that he do as I do when I've have a disappointing session, so "while I sit back" is off the mark, I'm afraid.
You're scolding me for not giving your side of the story? Sorry, I'm not Walter Cronkite. I gave my opinion. Now you have given yours. The OP may be a newbie, but I credit him with being a grown up. He can handle it.
Your post was not negative, and though I still think it was incomplete you are correct it is not your obligation to make it complete.
I was lumping you in with Abe and I should not have. The same is true about my alias comment, it was directed at him and it was not correct for me to tar you with that brush.
Just go with your gut feeling, not what you think you "should" rate her performance based on her reputation. Effort shouldn't count for much unless it produces results. Besides, turning away from kissing shows a lack of effort.
Services provided only determine what score she is eligible for, NOT what she has earned. The quality of her services is what matters, and it sounds like she was going through the motions with less enthusiasm than anyone should expect from a high quality provider. Unless you were a total jerk, which doesn't seem to be the case, there's no excuse for her performance. Above all, I'd definitely describe it in your review.
One point you should know about: Whether a provider uses lube has nothing to do how much she likes you. Natural lubrication is an involuntary body function. Some girls always need a lot of lube, so don't take it personally.
Post your review with YOUR scores and call it like you see it. Don't feel that you have to inflate your score just because others had.
Maybe the provider had an off day, but you paid for her not to have it with you. Most hobbyists understand the YMMV, and so do most providers.
Thanks for the advice everyone. It's helpful to hear from multiple viewpoints as well.
Considering limited options in my area, that I'd like to see her again, and my new status, I think I'll use the review itself to voice my specific concerns and let the ratings reflect the overall positive nature of our visit and her good effort.
That way I've neither upset her with a harsh rating, nor have I let down my fellow reviewers who will be able to read my concerns in the 'juicy details.' It's a compromise, which is the fairest thing I can think of, and if I'm to pick the reputation I'd like to build here, it's one that's fair to both sides.
You may write down a draft of your review in a secure place... but not submitt it now. As a newbie, with little experience you may want to partake of the hobby & gain experience before submitting a review. You have 90 days to submitt a review... or you can see her again later & write a new review.
I suggest you see some others before submitting this review.
That said, sometimes the chemistry is not there. I feel that an average of her effort & my perception might be a fair grade... though I tend to put more weight in the written description than the number. I had an experience with a favorite lady that was definately avoiding kissing. After several months her kissing was as before. I realized that she'd had major dental work & perhaps she was uncomfortable or even painful. Maybe she was not even aware?
a few weeks' delay may defuse any blowback from the provider for less than worshipful comments in your review.
Well I more or less don't post anymore, but no one else has arrived at the most likely explanation for the lackluster kissing, so I suppose I'll break my long silence to chip in my two cents.
Mr. Fisher might have nailed the kissing problem as a dietary issue, but my money is on a dental issue. If you are a smoker, that also might be the cause. Mouthwash will only temporarily cover the smell and taste of smoke, or food odors.
No offense, but with the turning away, especially from a lady who reportedly "makes out like a teenager", I'll bet my next month's earnings you have chronic halitosis. Even if you brush and floss daily, tartar will still build up over time, trapping food particles and causing chronic bad breath.
When was the last time you saw a dentist and had your teeth cleaned? If its been more than 6 months, its time for a check up. If its been more than a year, it is most definitely time for a checkup.
And keeping your teeth in good health isn't just so that a lady will happily smooch you all night long either. Gum disease is linked to heart disease among other potential health factors. Keep those pearly whites nice and pearly. Its important for your health, and your partner will enjoy kissing you alot more.
ter handle? to make another appointment, that is.There are no repercussions from the review if you don't divulge that information.
Heed the advice of the wise men here, ponder, then write your review as you see fit.
I saw a very well-reviewed provider with high ratings. She was more beautiful than her pictures, but performance-wise I was let down. It was not the GFE I was looking for. She definitely did not like kissing me. Other reviewers have experienced DFK and the "making out like teenagers" experience that I was desperately hoping for, but that didn't happen for me. We would LFK frequently, but briefly, as she'd turn her head away after a few kisses. That actually kind of hurt my feelings, and killed the mood a bit. I showered before she arrived, and used mouthwash three times, so I don't think it was a hygiene issue. I hate slobbery and aggressive kissing and prefer a more sensual time so I don't think it was my technique. I didn't think I was ugly, but who knows. Our time together just very much felt like I was with a provider. I don't think she liked me, but she tried hard to hide it. We had to use lots of lube as the natural kind was not happening. She did try hard to please me. MSOG, BBBJ, DATY (she was nice enough to fake an orgasm). It wasn't a bad time, just not what I'd hoped for. She stayed the whole time and it wasn't a rushed experience.
If I were to grade her performance based on effort, it'd probably be an 8 or 9. Based on results and how I felt though, more like a 6 or 7. Am I being too harsh? Are my expectations too high?
Some, not all, of her reviews mention the "making out like teenagers" experience. Others experienced the same YMMV with respect to DFK that I did. I have an appointment with a dentist just in case it's a dental hygiene issue though. I'm due for a cleaning anyway.
I used mouthwash three times for the same reason I showered twice before seeing her, I was a nervous newbie and with all of the focus I've read on hygiene, I wanted to err on the side of caution. Once at home earlier in the day, once when I arrived at the hotel, and once after she called and was on her way up.
I submitted a kind review, but then had second thoughts and I sent a PM requesting it be cancelled. I'm going to take the advice here and gain some perspective before posting a review. I'm also feeling more disappointed with the experience upon further reflection. It wasn't just the kissing. There was an overall lack of passion, sensuality, hell...movement, on her part. I was extremely aware that I was with a provider going through the motions. I could feel how hard she was trying to "get through it." I have a bad feeling that with more experience I'm going to find out it's me though, and not her. I guess I'm easy to please on looks, and hard to please on performance. I'm also inexperienced and not very confident in the bedroom, and so I doubt I did much if anything to help her get into it. I don't suspend disbelief easily, and I require more than the mere mechanics of sex to have a good time. If it is me, I'll either have to not submit reviews, or make an adjustment to my performance scores to match how others approach this hobby. I can't imagine ever having the "9" experience: "Forgot it was a service." I mean, really? It feels so real you forget you're with a provider? I'd go broke if I ever found that type of experience! So if my scale only goes up to 8, maybe I'll just add 1 or 2.
It's possible, but when you said you used mouthwash, I don't know why others took that to mean that's ALL you ever did. I routinely gargle last thing before a date, too. However, I've also brushed, etc., after the last time I've eaten, as I always do. Regardless, bad breath wouldn't explain the rest of her halfhearted performance.
You say you're in an area with limited options, so I think that most likely explains the disparity between ratings and reality. I'm in the same boat, and I've learned that high scores around here often say more about the slim pickins. Don't write yourself off too easily until you've had a true GFE experience. "Forgot it was a service" may sound like hype, but for an hour it can be not too far from the truth.
This post actually breaks my little heart. you seem so sweet and nice. and so self-depricating, when in fact, it may not have been you. I truly hope you find a lady that will treat you like the sweet thing you are.
good luck!
P.S. i would see love to you but you arent anywhere near my city.