First time poster here, so please forgive my ignorance.

I called a girl I found on eros.com.  She was listed in the Escort section.  After she told me her donation rate, I told her that sounded fine, and that I was only looking for a full body sensual massage.  To my surprise, she said she couldn't do that.  I asked why not, and she said because she only has a permit for nude entertainment.  So I asked what "nude entertainment" included, and she said she'd talk to me about how erotic her visit would get once she met with me in person.  I asked once more why she couldn't just give me a massage, and she said I'd have to ask the San Diego police that question.  I then dropped that line of questioning, and asked a couple of innocent questions about her hours and whether or not I could schedule something a day in advance.  She was polite the whole time, if a little business-like, and I never got the sense that she didn't want to see me.  I told her I wasn't calling about tonight, and she said no problem, that I should call her when I was ready.

So I'm pretty sure one of three things is going on here.  One, she will give me a sensual massage--probably F/S if I wanted it (which I don't)--but she's only being careful about what she says on the phone in case I'm LE.  Or two, she will give me a sensual massage, but for an extra donation on top of the $250/HR donation she's quoted me for "nude entertainment".  Or three, she actually won't give me a sensual massage, even for extra $.  

What is most likely the deal with her?  I searched by her name to see if she's reviewed here, but didn't find anything.  Is it a pretty safe bet that I'll get my massage and happy ending during the $250 hour long outcall, or is an upsell for that service more likely?  Or worst of all, is it a distinct possibility that she'd come over, take my $250, and then only dance for me?

I understand why girls need to be discreet on the phone, but some of them are so cryptic in what they say, I come away shaking my head, wondering what the hell they're trying to tell me.

Any advice is welcome.  But please refrain from advising me to stick to girls who are well reviewed here at TER.  (I know it is sage advice, but this girl is not reviewed here, and I'm very interested in her.  I don't believe she's reviewed on any other sites either, btw.)  What I'm looking for is odds.  What are the odds I'll get my happy ending for the $250?

Thanks!

There is a reason to stick with reviewed providers. You'll probably learn the hard way!

When I call an escort, I don't ask any questions other than general location of incall after we've agreed to a day and time.  After reading your narrative of your conversation, I'm surprised the lady stayed on the phone with you.
Way to many questions asked, IMO. Also google her phone # to see if anything else comes up. You can also try finding a lady who advertises on the regional San Diego TER board, it's to the left, use the drop down window.
Try searching on escort malls in the massage section, not the full service escort section.
And at your request I will not give you the 'sage advice' you mentioned in your op.
Good luck

First of all, anyone who discusses money and services in the first phone call is not too bright.
Depending on where you live, but here in Las Vegas, if you offer or advertise any type of massage you will get bustd way faster than just a regular escort ad. Our Nevada Board of Massage Therapy is relatively new and they are out to clean up their industry. If you are an escort and you get arrested that's one charge, if you have offered massage they will tack on a charge for performmg massage with no license, depending on your exact location, they can tack on a charge for females offerring cross gender massage. In some states and even some areas of clark county it is illegal to offer cross gender massage.

you won't have to ask questions, you will know what services they offer from their reviews.

I think she is trying to tell you to go somewhere else!  With all the well reviewed providers you can find you it sounds like less trouble to research someone reviewed for exactly what you are looking for than to worry about her speaking in code.

because she isn't a masseuse and here in nyc if you list that you do massages, LE can arrest you for doing them without a license.

Pass on this one. $250 is a ridiculous price to pay even if you got a great massage with a HE(and you're not even sure if you'll get that).

With no reviews there is no way to predict what might happen or how good her service might be. If you are in a financial position to "take one for the team" then go ahead and give her a shot.  Most ladies with a functioning brain will not discuss specific activities on the phone with a new customer. Many will just hang up on you...

I agree with the others that "massage" is a loaded word...  as Massage Therapists must be Licenced in many jurisdictions.  "LMT"  Around here a LMT hour is around 60 (no HE).

This is too much to pay for a FBSM even w/HE.  Think in the 100-150 range & I see very excellant FBSM practitioners at the lower end.  

With no reviews, no web site, no nothing...  she can accept the money & just nude dance, allow no touching & actually deliver all she promised.  You could end up leaving with a hard on (or sticky fingers if permitted) & empty pockets.  

In my area, I can see lots of well reviewed providers at this price point.
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Thanks everyone for your replies!  

To shudaknownbetter, you described in your third paragraph exactly what I'm afraid of.  If y'all think this is a distinct possibility, then I suppose I'll pass on her.  

I can't really afford to TOFTT at this time, but I'd like to, because there's really something special about this girl's looks, IMO.  (Of course I realize photos can be deceiving...sometimes to the point that it's not even the same girl.)

Much obliged.  I suppose I'll be taking the "sage advice" afterall.

ps~it's nice to hear from you guys that a fbsm with a HE can be had by well-reviewed hot girls for about half the price this escort is asking for "nude entertainment" (whatever that consists of).

[You're] "only looking for a full body sensual massage.  To my surprise, she said she couldn't do that."

Unless I'm mistaken, I think the "couldn't do that" part means no FBSM.

Think about it with your big head, not your little head.

is that shes an agency...

250 for a rub and tug? go to a MP, or better yet call a well reviewed massage provider, give her the screening info she asks for and then... enjoy
xoxo
Jenny

PS massage without a license can be a VERY pricey ticket which is why you didnt get an answer to your question.

I agree Bridgette... if you're not a licensed massage therapist, you cannot advertise or tell someone you'll give them a massage. A body rub, yes... a massage, no.. they can charge you with providing a service without a license.