I thought I was by myself on this one. I'm sorry you are going through this too ChinaRose. I feel your pain. I will look into that site until my luck changes.
Thanks
Gals like us just have to make do until we can join p411. Also, register at verifyhim.com
Hope that helps.
Hi all, thanks for reading my post in advance. I hope someone can help me.
I'm a new provider of two months. I don't have any reviews yet (I checked). I've received numerous emails from hobbyists who would like to meet, and are verified through different websites. However, since I'm not verified, they are unwilling to meet with me (I understand).
Luckily, I've been able to verify 3 guys on my own who I now see. I would like to know:
-How do I become verified?
-How do I verify someone without making that person uncomfortable with giving me their private info?
-How do I ask to verify someone, when I haven't been verified myself?
I'm sorry for being long-winded, but I really don't know what to do.
Please help. Thanks!
I'm in the same position. For verification sites, if you don't have reviews, they're going to be hard pressed to let you in.
Gals like us just have to make do until we can join p411. Also, register at verifyhim.com
Hope that helps.
The standard protocol has verification as a one-way street. Providers get our personal information, but we don't get theirs. We "verify" providers by reading reviews about them. And if providers don't reviews, then we approach it with the same kinda skepticism as providers do to clients who have no references. Quid pro quo.
If you want to become legitimate, then my suggestion is the same as I have said all along. Correspond with different prospective clients, and put them at ease by sending photos or offering to meet them in public for a drink so they can know you are real.
The key is to build up some references through reliable clients. Perhaps approach a well-known TER member in your area and see if he will see you for a session. Perhaps offer him a TER discount.
There are lots of ways, and neither of you are thinking out of the box at all.
I never really thought about meeting up with the hobbiest who are verified to put them at ease. I would still be worried about them potentially being LE.
I will try this method the next time I am contacted by one, and see what happens.
Thanks for the advice
You have to start somewhere, and you should pick your first few clients well so that they actually help you to build up your business.
Guess who the most credible clients are?
Yep, the guys who review on TER.
Not necessarily true. My local board has their own little thing going on. SF hobbying is quite interesting. If I was reviewed at TER it wouldn't mean as much as if I was reviewed there.
Guess who the most credible clients are?
Yep, the guys who review on TER.
In a lot of areas of the country TER is not the big board. You are in one of those areas. Kimore is in an area where TER is the big one.
However it will not hurt you to get some TER reviews. While it may not help you get SF clients, it will definitely help if you later decide to tour to say Las Vegas, or LA, or NY, or Florida, or Chicago, etc.
Very true, and that's what I was trying to say. Many people on TER see it as the end all be all. But that is not necessarily true.
Rose
You don't know what I'm thinking.
And what works for you, doesn't work for me.
I took your advice on something, and it backfired on me. Then I had to fix it.
Having reviews or having a client vouch for you IS the only way to get onto p411. Which is what she was asking. Most verification sites want some presence. But I then told her to try verifyhim. I currently have no reviews, and this site took me after I spoke with the owner.
We're thinking outside the box, just not telling you.
If you want to become legitimate, then my suggestion is the same as I have said all along. Correspond with different prospective clients, and put them at ease by sending photos or offering to meet them in public for a drink so they can know you are real.
The key is to build up some references through reliable clients. Perhaps approach a well-known TER member in your area and see if he will see you for a session. Perhaps offer him a TER discount.
There are lots of ways, and neither of you are thinking out of the box at all.
I can tell you that I know that my way works, but perhaps you didn't follow everything I said. I know from our phone discussions that you were pretty strong-willed and had your own ideas about things. I'm telling you what I know from being the guy who is paying the money. You clearly don't know the demand side as well as I do.
But if your current business model is working, then no need to ask anyone anything on this board. Which I'm sure you won't be doing, because, well, you know it all.
I have no comment and have never had any comments on P411.
If you are doing well with your own platform, then good for you. That's all that matters.
But if you come on this site asking for information and advice, my advice to you is to listen to it. You don't have to implement it, but you sure as shit should not come on this board telling others why our advice is wrong when you're still coming on the board asking for advice.
I thought I was by myself on this one. I'm sorry you are going through this too ChinaRose. I feel your pain. I will look into that site until my luck changes.
Thanks
Gals like us just have to make do until we can join p411. Also, register at verifyhim.com
Hope that helps.
begins the same way. For some, it's tough, some have it easier. Both of you need to see some guys that can review you. This is not the only review site, just the largest. Unfortunately, per TER rules, I can't name them here. Once you get some reviews, it will be easier for you.
Hopefully both of you have websites, which you need in order to post ads on TER. Read the self help center to learn how and when to post ads. I'd also suggest that you begin posting on your regional board so people around you will get to see your personality. And if your regional board has picture theme days, participate in them.
Swim
This doesn't really answer the questions. It wasn't about generating clients (we both can do that, or we wouldn't need to be verifying people). It was a question of how we ourselves can become verified.
On the provider side, you guys don't know. There's more work on our side than reviews, for you guys. We need to be able to screen. Which are ins and outs you don't know.
I've already posted here, and got no business. I posted on my local review site and all of my business has come from there.
Hopefully both of you have websites, which you need in order to post ads on TER. Read the self help center to learn how and when to post ads. I'd also suggest that you begin posting on your regional board so people around you will get to see your personality. And if your regional board has picture theme days, participate in them.
Swim
There is no verification for TER.
it's a review site. You don't start your profile. You have no control over it. Clients review you and talk about you and that creates your profile. If you think the profile is inaccurate, then you contact TER. That's the way it goes.
As you found out, in San Fransisco the TER discussion board is dead. So you do what you have to do. I still don't think it hurts to advertise here and participate in discussions. it will help get you known to others who may visit SF and not be familiar with the local board, or help you if you start touring other areas, even if presently you get your business from elsewhere. For Kimore, in Chicago the TER board is very active. She can probably get all her business from TER.
come across as young woman who wants to milk the system for SD's rather than just hobbyists. You also brag about taking cash from married guys but disliking their decision to see a provider.
If you were in my area and offered it for free, I would still pass based on your ATTITUDE.
That's your prerogative. I don't think talking about what do as bragging, but your opinion of me isn't my concern. You are always welcome to pass on my companionship, though I would never offer it to you.
at least I have the courage not post under an alias, punk.
If you were in my area and offered it for free, I would still pass based on your ATTITUDE.
I post under my alias, but I use my alias as another TER screenname. Do a search, and you will see I have 21 reviews under my alias.
This guy might be doing the same thing.
So let's not start getting into the whole "hiding behind an alias" thing. If you want to out your real name for all to see, then you start slinging the alias bullshit. Because we are all hiding behind aliases.
I'm so glad I posted my question. I didn't know I would be able to interact on the discussion boards. I assumed only reviewed providers and hobbyists were allowed. I will try out the Chicago board. This is another good idea.
Thanks Swim
Hopefully both of you have websites, which you need in order to post ads on TER. Read the self help center to learn how and when to post ads. I'd also suggest that you begin posting on your regional board so people around you will get to see your personality. And if your regional board has picture theme days, participate in them.
Swim
There are rules for what posts are allowed & how often.
On your local board, there are restictions on starting threads & you can't put ads there or make plosts with pictures that look like ads. EXCEPTION, some boards have photo days. On your local board, you can REPLY to threads started by others & is a good way to get known. Being known & the ability to participate sanely on the boards can put a guy at ease & possibly overcome lack of reviews.
Ads go on the appropriate local ad board, no more than 1 every 7 days but you can post on your own ad thread, say with change in schedule or more pictures.
Swim over simplified. You must have an internet presence to get reviewed. A web site, even a template site, is good to store your pictures & other information & keep under your control. Without pictures, ads are about worthless. To post an ad, you must have a site with the TER linked emblem on the first page.
To begin your posts will be "Moderated"... that is reviewed before they display. After a few weeks & a number of posts with no problem, you can request to be unmoderated. If you rarely post, you can't getthe history to get unmoderated.
Best wishes, HV
I'm so glad I posted my question. I didn't know I would be able to interact on the discussion boards. I assumed only reviewed providers and hobbyists were allowed. I will try out the Chicago board. This is another good idea.
Thanks Swim
Hopefully both of you have websites, which you need in order to post ads on TER. Read the self help center to learn how and when to post ads. I'd also suggest that you begin posting on your regional board so people around you will get to see your personality. And if your regional board has picture theme days, participate in them.
Swim
Remember everyone, escorts & hobbyists were new at this. As someone who TOFTT, here are just a few of the things I look for when deciding to see an unreviewed escort. Good advertising, meaning good pictures and well written ads. Email capability, and a website. One thing that always turns me off is if I get a feeling the newb escort is desparate. If you're getting into this lifestyle, than you need to account for how you're going to make a living if this is your sole means of support. Many newb escort keep their day jobs while breaking into escorting.
You'll need to make the hobbyists comfortable before he will committ to seeing you. I'm not looking for a "connection" so much as will I have a good time with you. I recently emailed a new provider who was advertising on Eros, she was the milf type, which I like, pics were hot, she had a well designed website and she answered my email inquiry in a timely matter. My inquiry asked if she offered incall, her hourly donation, and if she had reviews. BTW, I never discussed her menu, like many hobbyists I prefer a gfe type of date. However, I would have rolled the dice if she wasn't gfe
When she responded back, she mentioned she only does outcall, avoided answering whether she had reviews and mentioned her hourly rate which was double what top providers in my area get. I politely wrote her back and declined. Had she replied, that she was new and had no reviews, had an hourly rate that was competitive for the market, I probably would have seen her. While I prefer incall, I have tons of loyalty points at major hotel chains and would have booked a room using my points. For me the dealbreaker was her donation. Listen you can charge whatever you like, but it's got to be competive.
Remember, , this is a business for many providers, you need to do some market research, you need to be competive in your donation amounts to attract hobbyists. One of the things you should look for is a small private hobby board in your area. TER is not the only hobby website and many cities have alternatives. The small boards are usually run by local hobbyists. Many local boards lke to support new escorts, because it's the providers who usually attract the hobbyists to these boards. So do a search and see if there's a small board and contact the owner.
There's more, but hopefully my reply will get you thinking.
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I'm based in Chicago. I currently work in the healthcare industry (4 days a wk). I'm also studying for an entrance exam I'm taking this spring. Its for a program in the medical field I'm applying to (2nd degree).
I've had professional photos taken. I have profiles on 4 sites. I can be contacted via phone or email. My incalls are located in downtown Chicago, and I feel my rates are competitive. HOWEVER, my availability is extremely limited.
Due to my work and study schedule, I'm unable to schedule incalls promptly. Majority of my calls/emails are for early morning & afternoon request. Yup, and I work 7am to 3pm, and study 20hrs a week. I believe a higher power has kept me safe, but I still need to screen.
When I have the time, lol, I will look for Chicago boards for potential hobbyists. Thank you for that great idea.
You'll need to make the hobbyists comfortable before he will committ to seeing you. I'm not looking for a "connection" so much as will I have a good time with you. I recently emailed a new provider who was advertising on Eros, she was the milf type, which I like, pics were hot, she had a well designed website and she answered my email inquiry in a timely matter. My inquiry asked if she offered incall, her hourly donation, and if she had reviews. BTW, I never discussed her menu, like many hobbyists I prefer a gfe type of date. However, I would have rolled the dice if she wasn't gfe
When she responded back, she mentioned she only does outcall, avoided answering whether she had reviews and mentioned her hourly rate which was double what top providers in my area get. I politely wrote her back and declined. Had she replied, that she was new and had no reviews, had an hourly rate that was competitive for the market, I probably would have seen her. While I prefer incall, I have tons of loyalty points at major hotel chains and would have booked a room using my points. For me the dealbreaker was her donation. Listen you can charge whatever you like, but it's got to be competive.
Remember, , this is a business for many providers, you need to do some market research, you need to be competive in your donation amounts to attract hobbyists. One of the things you should look for is a small private hobby board in your area. TER is not the only hobby website and many cities have alternatives. The small boards are usually run by local hobbyists. Many local boards lke to support new escorts, because it's the providers who usually attract the hobbyists to these boards. So do a search and see if there's a small board and contact the owner.
There's more, but hopefully my reply will get you thinking.
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This is the board:
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/messageList.asp?boardID=70
Also, if you have a site where I can see photos, PM me. You can PM an alias.
I am happy to give you feedback, whether or not you are my type.
I'm compelled to steal your handle. In fact, I'm ashamed I didn't think of it first. Just sayin'........
The Little Redhaired Girl
There are usually two ways. Have reviews, or get referred. If you have reviews on TER or other review sites, that proves you are a provider, you can get membership on most of those verification sites. The other way is by being verified by a current member of those sites. If another provider who is a member can verify you,that usually works. Also a client member can verify you. So if you see a client who is a memvber of p411 for example, ask him to invite you.
You have been given good advice form hiddenhills and some others in this thread as far as some other information that might help you get established.