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Re: Reviews are not allowed on Discussion Boards. Regional or otherwise...
lynnore 2370 reads
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Hello all,

I've just joined TER after much deliberation and have been pleasantly surprised so far! Here is my question...

I initially planned to not allow reviews, but I do think they're important in order to let potentials know I'm reliable and who I say I am. However, I absolutely abhor a kiss and tell mentality and do not want incriminating details published. I value my privacy and hate leaving a trail.

Based on this, do you think it's reasonable to...
1) Allow reviews, on the condition that
2) They are non explicit and are limited to saying that yes, they would see me again and had a wonderful time or no, they wouldn't because they didn't have the experience they'd hoped for?

I want the people I see to be able to share whether they enjoyed their time or not, but would rather not allow reviews than have these (very private) experiences aired, and would like to know if you think this is a reasonable approach or if I should avoid reviews altogether.

Thank you!  ♥
Lynnore

AHappyCamper 9 Reviews 158 reads
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2 / 45

If you're read what the requirements are for reviews, they state that the content is more than what you are comfortable with.  There is no getting around that fact.  

I've met a number of wonderful ladies who have a no review policy in place, but they are established and known.   Some did have reviews, but later chose to de-list themselves.  They did so because they shared the same opinion as you.  

Only you can decide what you believe is best for you.  If you are a new provider, it may be difficult to establish yourself without them, but it has been done.  

-- Modified on 8/13/2017 4:15:16 AM

NoGreenBorderedEnvelope 163 reads
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3 / 45

... asking new clients if they intend to write a review.  And if so, you'll explain your position and ask them to adhere to it.  Some may not respect your wishes and some may choose to not write a review under those conditions.  

But if they do write reviews that lack the details TER wants to see in reviews, it might be difficult for them to get the reviews published. And if they are published, the maximum performance score could be limited to 7 (or 8, if you don't mind that kissing with tongue is mentioned) unless there's more than one gal and/or guy involved in the session.

You should also get full VIP if you don't already have it.  It allows you to read full details of all reviews.  Then you can get an idea of how potential clients approach reviews. Some are much less explicit than others.  

Once you see how well reviewers respect your wishes, you can decide if you want to stay with TER and its review system, or delist.  

JustMyPOV 143 reads
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From your website, I can't even tell what city you in.

lopaw 29 Reviews 140 reads
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...a detailed and vey adult type of review is not only expected but required here on TER. There are other review sites out there that may not require such strident requirements, but alas they are not TER.  

Hope you stick around here 😊

souls_harbor 131 reads
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6 / 45

My first reviews were rejected for not including enough "dirty details."      If a review is accepted for publication on TER it will have all the stuff you don't want it to have.

Julian7 149 reads
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7 / 45

The problem is that the last time I ate the cake, it was gone. YMMV though!  

However; you might wanna try

 
1. Come up with palatable or PG  terms to describe your services and train your clients to use them. I know for a fact by reading this forum that girls conditioned johns to agree to stupid shit, so this shouldn't be too difficult.
2. Ask you clients to post this PG review in your regional board.
3. Link them in your website under "testimonials" or something.

Caveat OP:
1. I don't know whether this is against TER rules. You might wanna check.
2. Remember that anybody can post anything. Hope that nobody tries to mess with this hare brained scheme.

lynnore 134 reads
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8 / 45

Luckily the people I've seen have been perfect gentlemen, so I'm not concerned with them being discreet; I'm more concerned with if it would hit new potentials the wrong way, or if it was in line with TER's policies.

The max rating doesn't matter much to me, my primary concern was for potentials to know they are safe :) Thanks for your response!

lynnore 142 reads
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9 / 45

Haha - yes, you've rightly noticed my attention to detail (or purposeful lack thereof)! I am located in the NJ/NY area.

lynnore 109 reads
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10 / 45

I'm so sad to hear that - TER seems like a fantastic website, but I would have hoped the emphasis would have been placed on safety rather than lurid details.

Can you point me to where the requirements are posted so I may check them out myself?

I'll be sticking around, but perhaps just to the forums and I may have to keep my no review policy in place and hope that no one reviews me or I may have to ask to be delisted and banned.

lynnore 148 reads
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11 / 45

Hmm. I wonder if that's because of the rating you gave - if for example you have a 10 star but the required services weren't mentioned. Anyone have experience with this?

lynnore 140 reads
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12 / 45

Oh Julian - you are hilarious!  

Thank you for suggesting an alternate course of action. Yes, if someone ended up breaking the request to remain discreet, I'd likely have to ask to be pulled entirely based on what they wrote. Based on the people I've met so far however, who have surpassed my expectations in every way, I am confident (and hopeful) the majority will be able to honor this request as long as I'm not breaking any rules here.

I do love cake, I'll be darned if I can't try to have it and eat it too! :)

lynnore 151 reads
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13 / 45

Thankfully I've built up quite a customer base already without reviews, but I know personally that I instantly feel more comfortable when someone who inquires has reviewed numerous people on TER, and I'd like to be able to give people booking me the same comfort.

I'm going to try to find where the review requirements are, but if you don't mind, can you provide a link?

1192967 45 Reviews 140 reads
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14 / 45

Please read up on TER guidelines for posting, reviewing , etc. before giving advice on the Newbie Board.  

 
You did at least note your advice might not be acceptable to TER but it's out there now.

-- Modified on 8/13/2017 12:15:58 PM

lynnore 135 reads
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15 / 45

Here is the pertinent part I think is of concern based on what I'm trying to achieve:

"Both the General and Juicy Details section have been set up to house elaborate descriptions of the encounter ... The Juicy Details section should be used to describe the provider, the experience, and whether or not you enjoyed it in *graphic emotional and sexual terms* ... Make your reviews candid, informative and interesting to read."

I think these requirements can still be met without going into detail. Since the experience I hope to provide is a secret affair, it makes sense that the description of such an experience wouldn't spoil the surprise. While it is unfortunate that I wouldn't be able to get the max number of stars based on the services I provide and would instead be capped at 7, I'm okay with settling for a 7 instead of a 9 if it keeps the discretion in tact.

I wonder if it's best to reach out to support proactively about this or to receive reviews first and beg for forgiveness later :P

lynnore 145 reads
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16 / 45

Hey there, do you work for TER? If so perhaps you could shed some light on the situation?

Based on the review requirements, I see that "The Juicy Details section should be used to describe the provider, the experience, and whether or not you enjoyed it in *graphic emotional and sexual terms*" (emphasis added)

I think these requirements can still be met without going into detail. People can discuss how they felt emotionally about the situation in great detail and how it was sexually exciting without describing specific acts. Since the experience I hope to provide is a secret affair, it makes sense that the description of such an experience wouldn't spoil the surprise. While it is unfortunate that I wouldn't be able to get the max number of stars based on the services I provide and would instead be capped at 7, I'm okay with settling for a 7 instead of a 9 if it keeps the discretion in tact.

Would this be acceptable?

BuffetBoy 3 Reviews 187 reads
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You would not be able to login anymore and use the boards. You could still read the threads, but not be able to post on them.
If you are already talking about being delisted, I would suggest this is not the appropriate forum for you.  
On a side note, I couldn't find your rate. Is your website complete Lynnnore? You are very pretty!

impposter 49 Reviews 139 reads
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18 / 45

Posted By: lynnore
I've just joined TER after much deliberation and have been pleasantly surprised so far! Here is my question...
Three things:  
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1. When you start a thread (as the OP = original poster or original post) you are not allowed to include a link to yourself (ad, website, Profile). However, whenever you REPLY to a thread, you may add the hot link to your ad, website, Profile, etc..
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2. For security and safety, I and many others use a proxy server to do this hobby stuff. Your website link returns this error:
"Access denied. Your IP address [##.###.###.##] is blacklisted. If you feel this is in error please contact your hosting providers abuse department."  
This is a common error from SOME hosting sites that block known proxies. You might want to consider adding some other minimal ad as (Eros, slixa, backpage, etc.) a workaround. Or, at some point, you might want to change your ISP to a host that doesn't block proxies.  
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3. I, for one, am curious to see your ad but it isn't likely that I would want to see anyone who didn't have reviews. We can get through the raunch to find out about the fundamentals (safety; as promised; etc.).
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EDITs: not quote to not quite; two things to three things

-- Modified on 8/13/2017 6:31:58 PM

lynnore 168 reads
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19 / 45

Thank you! 😊 Yes, my site is complete - I save discussing rates for email due to the need for discretion. I typically post my rates/location and other pertinent information directly in ads. Hopefully it isn't against rules to post this here, as I'm still learning my way around, but to answer your question - I charge $300 an hour.

lynnore 138 reads
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20 / 45

Hey there,

1. Apologies, I didn't know about the website rule. I tried to edit it out but I don't think it's possible. Happy to have it removed though if there are mods that do that sort of thing around here.

2. I had no idea my host blocked proxies - thank you for sharing! I have a minimal ad on BP at the moment, but it's really more of a teaser for my website. I've posted it below.

3. In lieu of having reviews, I have other information I give about myself to verify who I am before meeting for anyone concerned. I never ask for information that I myself am not willing to give - I think it's only fair. I certainly understand the concern though, which is why I would love to have reviews as long as I can do it in a non-compromising way.

Forevermore,
Lynnore

BuffetBoy 3 Reviews 151 reads
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21 / 45

The problem is, as I see it, you are making it much more difficult for that to ever occur. Not listing your rate, making me email you for it, not allowing reviews or having reviews without much detail would be disqualifying for me.  
You are also placing yourself at a major disadvantage with other ladies, who make the selection process go much smoother and quicker.  
Of course you have to conduct your business in a way that makes you feel comfortable, but it does not sound like a recipe for success from a financial perspective for you, but that is none of my business how you handle your affairs. Just thought all opinions should be factored in to your decision making process. Best of luck to you Lynnore!

lynnore 173 reads
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22 / 45

I appreciate your thoughts, thank you! All feedback is welcome. You're right that I'm not making it easy - my hope is that only those who are seriously interested will inquire. I will however probably make it a tad easier by trying out allowing reviews and placing contact info (email/phone) on my page.  

So far I've only posted on BP, and even without being able to post rates there, I've been absolutely flooded with phone calls so it hasn't been a problem. On Eros I plan to include rates in the ad, and I'm not sure how ads work on TER yet.

I just completed my site 2 days ago so I will likely tweak it as necessary as I go along.

keystonekid 114 Reviews 124 reads
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request that another review not be written at the present time. Some providers only want 1 review per month.

Regarding details, TER will not publish a review unless it contains some xxx rated material. However, most gentlemen know how to word things properly as to not be kissing and telling.

1192967 45 Reviews 172 reads
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24 / 45

...I've just been around a while and know what their guidelines are. I can tell you a few things and you'll have to decide how to proceed. If you choose to have a no review policy and TER is aware of it they will delist you from the site. They don't want you getting the free advertising and exposure TER gives when you won't participate in their purpose for existing.

 
If your reviewers honor your request for keeping the juicy details out of their review of you 7 is the highest performance score you can receive as you correctly surmised. Scores of 8, 9, or 10 would have to say in no uncertain terms you french kissed, LFK, DFK, (kissed with tongue) and/or gave him a bare blow job (bbj/bbbj) and/or he engaged in anal intercourse with you. How he chooses to describe it can be very formal, cut and dry or very verbose with all the emotion attached.  

 
Should a client choose to not honor your request and be more graphic you would not be able to do anything about that review being posted.  

 
About the stars: the star ratings are related to the chemistry as viewed by the client and the location as determined by the client. It's a five star system. TER has stated no particular restrictions on those ratings. They do use them in determining your average performance and appearance scores but they are not related to the clients rating of your appearance or performance.  

lynnore 162 reads
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25 / 45

Added my phone number and email to the header, and put my location and beginning rates in the footer. Hopefully the rates aren't too discreet.

Lynnore

keystonekid 114 Reviews 124 reads
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lynnore 139 reads
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27 / 45

Yes, I have heard of this as well. The review culture is difficult to navigate - you can never know if potential clients will love or dislike the amount of reviews a provider has. I suppose, as with everything, all you can do is be yourself and hope for the best!

lynnore 135 reads
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28 / 45

With the way my site is set up, I can't currently add rates to the header. I'm debating giving them their own section, perhaps in a few days when I can make sure my twitter won't accidentally give my site away to my contacts as it decided to do today! That made for some lovely conversations and unexpected love letters 😂

Thank you for your feedback.

JJLLRRKK1971 6 Reviews 141 reads
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29 / 45

I think it is possible to achieve what you are looking for in a review. On the other hand you state you have built a great client base without reviews and this should not be concerning then.  

There are boxes in a review that must be filled in
What  type of provider are
Kissing
Anal
Into other guys
Bdsm
Message quality
Rimming
Touch pussy
Etc.

You might want to email TER support yourself with the specifics to get your answer. Go click on my reviews or others to get an idea then email TER to get your answer to see what you are looking for is possible

lynnore 129 reads
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30 / 45

I've done very well so far - using BP. For reasons I'm sure many of us can attest to, not the least of which is having my photos and ad copy scraped to a billion escort malls, I'd like to focus less on BP and more on other avenues - hence my desire to start using TER.

Thanks for giving me insight from the reviewer's perspective, I had no idea what the review form looks like for clients.

NoQuarterGiven 127 reads
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31 / 45

Reality check:

TER only publishes explicit reviews. After all, who would PAY to read PG-13 reviews?

Do you think of all the providers & reviewers on TER, and almost 1.5 million reviews, that TER is going to make an exception for you or your reviewers? They won't.  

You also cannot control other people. You may be able to get a few clients to go along with your request for a more vague review, but most reviewers won't want to waste their time writing a PG-13 review that will never be approved. You will also forget to tell some clients not to, or your clients will forget you asked them not to write an explicit review. There many reasons your "plan" won't work, aside from the fact that TER requires explicit mention of activities.

I understand your concerns, but if you aren't comfortable with explicit reviews, TER is simply not the website for you. You'll need to make a choice: Reviews on TER and all that comes with them, or No Review Policy and all that comes with that. Those are the only realistic options. As a provider, you can't really be a partial participant in TER. Either you're all-in, or you're out.

OldRanger 62 Reviews 150 reads
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If that happens the post will not go up or if it does someone can submit a problem report and it will be removed to be edited
TER is good about allowing editingfor things like someone being too descriptive of a location but not very accommodating to someone that asked to say change the nitty gritty details

lynnore 137 reads
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33 / 45

Thanks for your thoughts. In return, let me provide some of my own.
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One would think that a very important element of keeping both parties safe and happy is addressing whether the person you are seeing is real, safe, sane, and not LE. That is the element of a tryst that I hope to allay concerns over, and that alone is certainly worth paying for.
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As a side note: In a profession where sexual acts are illegal, why anyone - clients included - would want to paint a sordid picture of their crimes or the crimes of others is beyond me. We are all here because we are risk takers to some degree, but prudent risk takers don't paint the odds against them.
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That said, I do appreciate the reality check which is why I posted. It is impossible to fully control other's perceptions of you or what they will write - this is true of all social media and a wise perspective - but we can help guide it. I think I'm going to take my chances.  My marketing targets gentlemen who specifically enjoy the thrill of the unknown as well as discretion, so I'm not concerned about the gentlemen I see - I was more curious to know how it would be perceived by the community at large as well as by TER itself. I think reviews that leave a bit of mystery will attract those who wish to pursue mystery. Whether or not reviews will make it through the approval process is certainly a concern; I suppose I'll have to hope that the first reviewing gentlemen I see are patient and will work with me. I hope to leave them so sated by our time together that this token of their appreciation will be worth their while :)

GaGambler 206 reads
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As you can plainly see, I have zero reviews to my credit and I don't write reviews for many of the reasons you suggest. That said, the rules are the rules and where TER is concerned there is no middle ground. The ladies don't get to approve what kind of reviews are written about them here, and neither do the guys. TER is the ultimate arbiter where it comes to which reviews will be published and which ones will be rejected.

 

Reviews are not an exact science and sometimes reviews will "slide through" without a lot of graphic detail, but those are the exceptions, not the rule. If graphic reviews are something that makes you very uncomfortable, this may indeed not be the place for you. TER is rather clear in their review guidelines and after all these years neither you nor I are going to change their mind on this subject.

 
I wish you well, but you are definitely swimming upstream against a very strong current.

VincenzoG91 5 Reviews 149 reads
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My first experiences in the hobby were 20 years ago, before online review boards existed. Back then, the quality providers tended to work for agencies, while others worked in brothels, massage parlors, or on the street. Booking a provider was always a crapshoot. Maybe she would be pretty, or physically fit, or nice, or at least skilled, but there was no way to know in advance. Everything was an upsell, and nobody kissed. Regardless of how long I booked, the appointment ended as soon as I popped, and seconds were never offered without another upsell.

In other words, every call was a gamble, and the results were usually disappointing.

Today, I refuse to see any provider without descriptive reviews. I value my time and money, and I'm not going to waste either on a "mystery" like you. You have some nice pictures and I particularly like the Poe quote, but I have no idea if you offer services that I want, like BBBJ or the chance for a second shot on the goal. There may be other guys who are willing to take those chances, but it seems like they are more likely to take risks with a budget experience via Backpage.

I understand your concerns about reviews, though I am also sensing that you are a bit of a control freak. You won't be able to control the content of your reviews. Folks here understand the value of sharing information, and the site operators encourage that. You can choose to have yourself de-listed, but that will cut you off from an opportunity to advertise for free to a discerning customer base. You will also miss out on potentially valuable feedback on the services that you provide. You may even find it more difficult to screen customers by contacting other providers, because they might find the lack of available information about you to be suspicious.

VincenzoG91 5 Reviews 133 reads
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There are also customers who have a variety of concerns that tend to be addressed in reviews that don't necessarily involve explicit details. Some guys really dislike seeing providers with tattoos or piercings. Some can't stand the smell of cigarette smoke. I personally take issue with unreliable providers. That was a big problem before reviews... providers were always running late, and sometimes hours late because they would postpone confirmed appointments in order to squeeze in some last-minute callers. The better providers would at least call to say that they were running late. Thanks to reviews, it's easier to avoid these problems.

souls_harbor 135 reads
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Reviews will never be admissible as evidence in a criminal case.  First they are classic "hearsay." And many reviews are fake, so unless the author testifies in person there is no way to verify the validity -- and since any such person is testifying in court, there is no need to bring in the review itself -- which is still excluded for being hearsay.  

Yes, johns can testify against you, but whether they wrote reviews or not is irrelevant and inadmissible.

impposter 49 Reviews 168 reads
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Posted By: lynnore
I've done very well so far - using BP. For reasons I'm sure many of us can attest to, not the least of which is having my photos and ad copy scraped to a billion escort malls, I'd like to focus less on BP and more on other avenues - hence my desire to start using TER.
Watermark your pics! If they are professional, ask the photog to do it was part of the service. If you are OK with PhotoShop or another image processing program, add it yourself. For more info, search newbie for "watermark" and if you need more advice, post your Qs.
Thanks for giving me insight from the reviewer's perspective, I had no idea what the review form looks like for clients.
As a regular member, go to the Reviews tab on the top blue bar (MyTER | *Reviews* | Messages ...).  
Then click on "Submit a Review" on the light blue sub-headings.  
Scroll to the bottom and hit the [Agree] button.
Go to the right side and click [Create a New Review]
You can leave the first three fields blank and hit [Continue].  
There is your basic blank review form with check boxes and drop down menus.

lynnore 137 reads
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39 / 45

I 100% agree with you on all of these points - accountability is important!

lynnore 185 reads
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40 / 45

Given your significant experience on TER, I appreciate your insight on this. Looks like I have a decision to make

lynnore 125 reads
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I do agree with you about services being important; I wish there was a more private way to answer those questions, but alas, there is none.  
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I find it such a difficult predicament that if one wants to use the internet but stay UTR, BackPage is really the only option, but it's the riskiest because no one screens. As soon as you want to advertise elsewhere for safety, all the details come out, leaving an internet trail you can never erase. It's really picking your poison. I almost prefer staying under the radar, but it appears I have a decision to make.
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Have I mentioned that I can't wait to save up enough to visit a country where all of this is decriminalized?
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Re: being a control freak, definitely not. I don't want to go into my background publicly, but let's just say I'm used to going viral - often inadvertently - and have managed to do so several times over ever since I started using the internet. I have a knack for it it seems. I'm used to people saying things that are entirely out of my control - I'm just not usually concerned about whether or not those things are legal.
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Thank you for appreciating the quotes I used, as well as my pictures - I did everything (the pictures, my site, the writing) myself and it's nice to have my expression of this side of myself appreciated :)

lynnore 171 reads
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Excellent, thank you! Once I realized that pics get scraped, I started watermarking them. I (rather naively in hindsight) didn't realize that BP ads get scraped into oblivion or I probably would have never posted there to begin with.

Thank you for showing me how to find the review form!

lynnore 181 reads
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Now I'm not an expert on this, but I think realistically, if a lawyer were to mention in front of a jury that there are 20 reviews all stating that the person in question has exchanged sexual favors for money during examination - that jury is going to form an opinion before your lawyer can even object to it.
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More importantly, and what is likely a bigger issue, is that cops who might otherwise be lenient with you assuming this is your first offense are less likely to be so when they see you have a significant documented history. It also paints a bigger target on you: take down a provider with 20 reviews, and she could potentially flip and give information on those reviewers to avoid prosecution. And the day cops decide to subpoena records... I do not want to be the guy that wrote a bunch of reviews on here. Men truly have more to risk by participating in this behavior for short term gain.
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Personally, I think it would be better if TER allowed reviewers to specify either price or activity, but not both. This way it would be legal, and once a provider has enough reviews, you could still get the overall picture. But hey, what do I know? 😜

souls_harbor 152 reads
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44 / 45

Blurting out inadmissible stuff in front of a jury would be grounds for a mistrial due to the potential for prejudicing them.  

NoGreenBorderedEnvelope 119 reads
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45 / 45

Many TER reviews I read aren't explicit at all.  I also don't write "explicit" reviews myself.  There's enough detail to tell potential clients what they need to know about the provider and enough detail to justify the score I gave, but that's it. I read several non-explicit reviews just today. Maybe they don't all get through, but a lot of them do.  It can be done. Thus I don't agree that living with explicit reviews or having a no-review policy are the only realistic options.  

I believe it's a lot harder to get a non-explicit review approved if you're shooting for a performance score of 8 or more.  But Lynnore told us she doesn't mind if she doesn't get performance scores above 7.  

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