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Re: P411 alt verification
Kinot 2123 reads
posted
1 / 26

Hey fellas. Quick background on me: This is my first time ever doing anything like this. I have only ever been with one woman, my current wife, so am about as nervous as one could possibly be about doing this. Not because of risks or anything, but because Ive only been with one woman before and this is a BIG deal for me. My question to you is, can anyone recommend someone to me (FS) that you know would treat a new guy with respect and care? Money really is no object for the first meet, I just want to be as comfortable as possible and let her take the lead. No rushing, no mechanical feel, just a girl showing a first timer the best time he will ever have in his life.

Serious topic. Please dont respond if you dont intend to post something helpful.

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Moved from Ohio board

cellman 13 Reviews 703 reads
posted
2 / 26

1. We all where first timer's.
2. Read the newbes page
3.Resheach resheach
4.Find a lady you would like to see read her reviews
5.Contact her and see if she see's newbes
6.Let her know this is ur first time.
7.Enjoy ur self
8.Let the lady take the lead
9.Before seeing her take a bath brush ur teeth and use very little after shave
10.Did I say reseach reseach

Kinot 776 reads
posted
3 / 26

Thanks cellman and KP. I have done a tremendous amount of research, trust me. And I am indeed a TER VIP right now.

I have someone chosen that I have been talking to over the last week. Told her my situation and she said that she would take me. Only problem is communication has taken a big dive lately. I dont know if I annoyed her with all my first-timer questions or what, but Im not feeling as comfortable as I was even a few days ago. Started off great; she was very open to answering my questions and I even sent her a small donation for putting up with me and my Q's until the meet. But lately I dont know what happened, seems she ignores me most of the time...  Meeting is tentatively scheduled for this Thursday but just thought I would turn here to see if anyone had any input on first-timer-friendly providers.

Regardless, thanks for taking the time to post those pointers.

mfan2112 3 Reviews 650 reads
posted
4 / 26

I was in your exact shoes a few months ago. I got my p411 and found a newbie friendly gal where I was going on business. She had a ton of great reviews here as well. So between the combo of the two I asked her for an appointment via p411 with no problems. I have had great success using P411 to cut through all the screening process as it provides a good independent verification system that many ladies like. Then you are just trying to get your schedules to mesh.

Kinot 601 reads
posted
5 / 26

Posted By: mfan2112
I was in your exact shoes a few months ago. I got my p411 and found a newbie friendly gal where I was going on business. She had a ton of great reviews here as well. So between the combo of the two I asked her for an appointment via p411 with no problems. I have had great success using P411 to cut through all the screening process as it provides a good independent verification system that many ladies like. Then you are just trying to get your schedules to mesh.
Ok will try out P411 now. :)

Kinot 582 reads
posted
6 / 26

Posted By: mfan2112
I was in your exact shoes a few months ago. I got my p411 and found a newbie friendly gal where I was going on business. She had a ton of great reviews here as well. So between the combo of the two I asked her for an appointment via p411 with no problems. I have had great success using P411 to cut through all the screening process as it provides a good independent verification system that many ladies like. Then you are just trying to get your schedules to mesh.
Actually Im not sure I could pass P411's verification. I work from home as a full-time day trader so they dont have an employer to go to and have never done anything like this before so obviously no references. :/

mfan2112 3 Reviews 625 reads
posted
7 / 26

I would still check them out. They have alternative ways to verify you.

keystonekid 114 Reviews 697 reads
posted
8 / 26

an email buddy but someone with a nice envelope for their time. If I were you, I would confirm your day/time about 48 hours ahead of time unless she has given you different procedures to follow.

-- Modified on 10/1/2012 3:46:22 PM

swimtrekr 58 Reviews 533 reads
posted
9 / 26

Gina, the site owner, will work with you on getting you verified.  She, I'm sure, has done this many times with self-employed newbies before.  You have nothing to lose by making the call.  There is probably other information she can use to verify that you are legit.  P411 is a site that lets the providers indicate if they are newbie friendly on their profiles.

As someone previously said, read the FAQ for newbies, aka 'self help center', link under the life preserver at the top of this page.   There is a wealth of info in there for everyone, esp newbies.

Swim

falisades 2 Reviews 621 reads
posted
10 / 26

Amen to this. Don't take it as a rejection if the speediness of her replies goes downhill - while you may not have driven her away (unless you tripped one of the many red flags, like asking about specific services) she's only got so much time and attention span to give to guys who may be "just browsing."

Hopefully, once you commit to a date and time, her disposition will get sunnier. Or, if you just don't feel it, move on - its your nickel.

hokjock 21 Reviews 525 reads
posted
11 / 26

How do they use my employer information?  I don't want my employer to know what I do.

Naomi_Sweets See my TER Reviews 471 reads
posted
12 / 26

You are using an alias so I can't pm you.  But if you are in my area or where I outcall to and are over the age of 40,  I would love to spend some time with you.

feel free to contact me if you are in the areas I service (or to ask me where I service)

ed2000 31 Reviews 504 reads
posted
13 / 26

Contact P-411 and they will explain how they are presently operating. They are extremely discrete. After they explain their system, if you have any concerns, they will work things out with you before proceeding.

justwandering69 445 reads
posted
14 / 26

I just joined p411 about a monthago. They didn't want to talk to my boss. They wanted a number and website they could verify and then called to speak with me. They even accommodated my working graveyard to call in off hours. They just want to know you are really there as an employee.

Zangari 493 reads
posted
15 / 26

Posted By: Kinot
Money really is no object for the first meet,
Then I'm sure you'll be broke soon.  The sex trade is highly addictive so put yourself on a budget--a 'fun account' and stay on that budget.   And don't ever tell a provider that 'money is no object.'  
Posted By: Kinot
 I just want to be as comfortable as possible and let her take the lead. No rushing, no mechanical feel, just a girl showing a first timer the best time he will ever have in his life.
You take the lead and adjust your expectations.  At the beginning, you may need to see 3-4 different providers before you find a someone you really click with.
Posted By: Kinot
I have someone chosen that I have been talking to over the last week. Only problem is communication has taken a big dive lately. I dont know if I annoyed her with all my first-timer questions or what...Started off great; she was very open to answering my questions and I even sent her a small donation --snip--

Never give money up front, never pay a deposit.  This is a black market.  Act like you know what you're doing.  It's very off-putting when a man acts like an innocent virgin or a shrinking violet.  You made the mistake of paying this girl to be your personal tutor.  Stop it.  Book a girl and take the lead.  This isn't high school and she's not your prom date.  --z

falisades 2 Reviews 405 reads
posted
16 / 26

I'm seconding this one, too... I joined P411 about six weeks ago. I put it off for days because of the work thing, but when they called it was a total non-event. It'd be different if I worked in a tiny office where everyone knew each others business, maybe, but if you call them and explain your fears I'm pretty sure they'll work with you to come up with a 'cover story' for their call that's pretty airtight.

hokjock 21 Reviews 464 reads
posted
17 / 26

The problem is my office isn't designed that way.  We all have direct numbers.

Kinot 505 reads
posted
18 / 26

Posted By: Zangari


Then I'm sure you'll be broke soon.  The sex trade is highly addictive so put yourself on a budget--a 'fun account' and stay on that budget.   And don't ever tell a provider that 'money is no object.'  

You take the lead and adjust your expectations.  At the beginning, you may need to see 3-4 different providers before you find a someone you really click with.

Never give money up front, never pay a deposit.  This is a black market.  Act like you know what you're doing.  It's very off-putting when a man acts like an innocent virgin or a shrinking violet.  You made the mistake of paying this girl to be your personal tutor.  Stop it.  Book a girl and take the lead.  This isn't high school and she's not your prom date.  --z
You and I are complete and total polar opposites. Lets just agree to disagree. I'm only planning on being with one escort on the side and I intend to treat her very well, both financially and with respect and dignity. Call me crazy but that's just the kind of guy I am.

keystonekid 114 Reviews 433 reads
posted
19 / 26

"addicted" to the hobby and/or she retires, you will seek #2 lady.

Zangari 387 reads
posted
20 / 26

Posted By: Kinot
  I'm only planning on being with one escort on the side and I intend to treat her very well, both financially and with respect and dignity. Call me crazy but that's just the kind of guy I am.
You might think about a "sugar baby" instead of a provider.  That's what you're describing above.  I just  started using a sugar daddy site & I've met some amazing girls.  I'm currently banging a gorgeous 20 year old SB--she's close to perfect, OMG.  If this goes on, I'll dump my ATF soon.    

A lot of sugar babies are just high-end providers.  And I treated my ATF like a sugar baby for a couple of years.  So there's overlap between the two.  For someone new to the sex trade, you might go the provider route first, just to get some variety.  But either way, if you're careless with your money ('Money is no object!') you'll be broke soon. You might want to put some money away for your wife & family.  Just a thought.    --z

ed2000 31 Reviews 423 reads
posted
21 / 26

I was being somewhat vague on purpose. It's never a good idea to reveal the exact screening methods used by anyone. The two examples you were just given were specific to their situations at that point in time. Each situation can be different.

I still suggest you contact P-411 directly and discuss your particular situation with them not us. I feel confident they should be able to produce a way to work with you. I think they now have an online chat system that is available during their normal workday hours, as well as phone or email.

harborview 10 Reviews 598 reads
posted
22 / 26

where you need to give a cash advance.  Like travel expenses or where you reserve a large block of time like a overnight or weekend.  Other than this it is CASH, when you meet.  It's a terrible irdea to advance money or loan...  more often than not, it's the last you'll hear from them.  

You need to educate yourself by reading back on this board...  learn how this works.  Do not allow yourself to be scammed...  it spoils the fun totally!  
You need a separate hobby email from some free service.  Do not link to your real email.
You need a prepaid hobby phone.  Buy with cash, refill with cash & do not register to your real address or link to your real email.
NEVER use your credit card anywhere you should not be.
Clear your GPS.
Don't leave tracks...  sloppy gets guys caught.  I've read of sloppy guys who got caught before they even had their play date!  
Do carry a sealed 3 pack of condoms...  she should have them & will very likely insist on using hers BUT having them blocks the no condom scams.  (If you don't use them, you can throw them away before leaving.)  
Don't have a provider to your home...  too much risk.  
Don't leave a provider in a hotel room you rent.  Even if you pay cash, you'll have to guarentee with a CC...  anything which goes on in "your room" links back to you.  If necessary, have her get a room & reimburse with cash.  This is only if you are her only client that day.  If an incall (more than one client that day), she pays for the room.
Do wash & shower after to remove sex scent...  many women can smell sex from a distance.

Kinot 55 Reviews 554 reads
posted
23 / 26

Well we are going forward with the meet. Tomorrow night at 7pm. My God I am so scared, lol... Still cant believe I am doing this...

ramc75 14 Reviews 403 reads
posted
24 / 26

I just recently had my first encounter and while I was as nervous as I've ever been if the provider you've chosen after all of your careful research is of quality then I'm sure she'll sense that in you and spend the beginning portion of your session trying to put you at ease. Trust me when I say it doesn't take long. lol Enjoy and good luck!!

Zangari 385 reads
posted
25 / 26


I'm sure that spelling your name backwards will give you that needed mojo.  You might also bring a rabbit's foot to the session, lol.  --z

Kinot 401 reads
posted
26 / 26

Posted By: ramc75
I just recently had my first encounter and while I was as nervous as I've ever been if the provider you've chosen after all of your careful research is of quality then I'm sure she'll sense that in you and spend the beginning portion of your session trying to put you at ease. Trust me when I say it doesn't take long. lol Enjoy and good luck!!
We've been talking quite a bit over the last few days and she is definitely aware I'm a first-timer and practically a virgin (wife is all Ive ever been with). She said she is ready to take me on, lol.  So this is a big deal for me!

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