Law enforcement in my area can be pretty strict, considering I live in a rural, socially conservative area. I think your advice is very good. I think I'm going to just check it out.
So, I saw an ad for a "massage" parlor in my local area. As far as I know, it is only staffed by one lady, and from her picture on the website (it was from a distance.Her face was not shown and it was not possible to see any other identifying marks), she looked really sexy. She only identified herself with a first name. The website and ad in the local services and goods for sale publication both say that "massages" are performed on parlor premises or they do outcalls locally. Yes, the ad and website used the term, outcall, so this woman knows the lingo of this industry/hobby.
So, from the info I have provided, is there a good chance that this "massage therapist" offers more than massages? Do you think there is a good chance she offers happy endings? Am I crazy to suspect that more than massages may be offered?
Feedback from all would be appreciated. Thanks.
from what you said alone, I wouldn't necessarily assume it was a HE (or more) place.
What is LE like where you live?
In my county, no places offer extras as a regular practice because LE has really clamped down on this for years (though I have had a few rogue ladies in otherwise legit places provide extras).
I'd suggest you try it out if you are curious. At worst, you leave with a massage and probably only lighter by about $100 or so.
Law enforcement in my area can be pretty strict, considering I live in a rural, socially conservative area. I think your advice is very good. I think I'm going to just check it out.
Places that are legit, massage only, no sex, will charge about $100-150/hr; whereas a place that is looking to upsell clients for various sexual favors will be about half that.
Also, post about the place on your local board and see if anyone has been there.
I have gone to some legit places and after a few visits when they got to know me, they were open to doing some kind of sexual favor, mainly HJs.
You have to be very discreet about how you broach the subject lest they think you are LE.
I'm in the DC metro area.
Legit asian massage places here tend to be about $10-20 less per hour for the base cost than the known extra services places (which are mostly in counties neighboring to mine). The legit asian places are around $50-$70 per hour. The other places are more like $70-$90.
For the extra services that I've gotten at the legit places, for the most part I didn't need to ask (with only one exception). I was relaxed and friendly. If you have a lady that wants to make a little extra, she will direct the conversation in that direction IMO.
To be honest, I have never heard of a "legit" AMP before as all the AMPs I've ever been to offer some kind of sexual services.
In fact, the legit places you mention aren't truly legit as they offered sexual services even without you asking.
By legit, I am referring to places that usually have licensed therapists and go out of their way to not give off any vibes that a seasoned hobbyist would interpret as sexual.
The one legit place I referred to where I eventually received sexual service was a single proprietor operation working out of her apartment. After 3 visits consisting of a very good massage, we engaged in some conversation that eventually took a turn regarding the need for men to seek sexual release, and she acknowledged that such a need was legitimate. After that comment, all I needed to do was put the car in gear, so to speak. It never got beyond a very good hand-job, she remained fully clothed and I didn't even try to do any feeling up of her, but then again she didn't even want the extra $60 tip I proffered at the end of the session (The one hour session was $80, and this was back around 1980.) I left it with her anyways telling her that it reflects my appreciation for what she did.
I saw her maybe two more times, then one day her phone was disconnected. That's the way it went in those days. Come to think of it, that's still the way it goes oft times.
I too am talking about licensed places, mostly Chinese, that do not give off a vibe (even having signs inside strongly stating no sexual contact permitted by law). For instance, one near my house I have been to probably close to 30 times (with probably 10 different ladies over the last 3 years). There is one frisky older MT there who complimented my looks and found out I was single during my first massage, getting "closer" to things than usual. On my 2nd massage with her she quietly asked me if I wanted more, and she shocked me by doing more than just a HE even. At a couple of other licensed places I've had similar, though just HJ, experiences. It was VERY clear each time that we had to be extremely quiet, because the owners were not on-board with such activity.
I think the legit places need to me more price competitive with their base cost (at least in my area), because there are so many of them, and some guys are ONLY on the hunt for HEs, so they aren't as likely to go back to the legit places. I'm guessing that the HE spots are much more likely to get repeat customers, so they can charge more for the door fee (so to me now, that extra premium indicates a strong likelhood of extras). I'll admit my sample size isn't huge, but it is based on about 15 places in my area, split roughly evenly between legit places and known AMPs.
I find it interesting that there are legit Asian places around as up here around Boston, I've never encountered a licensed place with Asian gals.
I also have to add that I once came upon an AMP that apparently did no sexual activity, despite being in Providence RI which up to a few years ago was a Mecca for AMPs as they and their activities were legal owing to the fact that a judge ruled that the laws as written did not prohibit such activity (This has since been rectified.)
In any case, everything about the place screamed happy ending to me so when the therapist told me that the massage was only a massage, I was a bit heart broken. (It was a very good massage.)
The bottom line is: You never can tell for sure.
You might also be right about the price point of legit places. There was one legit place that did fantastic massage, and the price was on the steep side, but I guess they couldn't hack it and closed down a couple of years ago. I went there a lot just when I wanted a real great massage. Often I'd go see a provider right afterwards.
I should add, I'm using the term licensed loosely (not something I ask when I go in a place).
But they are definitely places that the business is about trying to provide an excellent massage, and nothing else.
Within 20 minutes of my house there are at least 10 such places staffed with Chinese MTs.
I may end up going going to a get a massage from a favorite lady today in fact...
Some places offers manicure for the ladies as well so I would think they were legit.
Other than that, you really have to get in there and express interest before the flip and see what happens