*quick aside: thank you wonderful guys and beautiful ladies for your honest advice, kindness, and support. You have all been nothing short of amazing to me since my first day on these boards and I wish I could give a big hug to each one of you!

Anyway, I'm working on an FAQ for my website in the hopes that it will help to weed out some of the jagoffs. I've been perusing some other providers' sites and have noticed that many use their FAQs as a sort of sounding board for their limitations, etc. I'd really like to include some things in mine such as which fetishes I cater to, my policies concerning contacting me, my no-nos (no Greek, no negotiating, no discussion of sexual acts in emails/texts, etc).

Here's what I'm wondering: is there a best or worst way to discuss this kind of stuff on my site as far as legality is concerned? Seems to me like it's safer to say what you won't do as opposed to what you will do. Hopefully that all makes sense.

Again, y'all are awesome!
XoXo
Tobi

You might want to ask this on the Legal Corner board, and I am not an attorney, but i dont think it matters much legally what you put or dont put on your website. LE will bust you from the evidence they gather while being in the room with you and at that point, its too late anyway. I dont think they will need your website to prove their case, but again, I am no attorney.

hire actual lawyer. Its better to get some professional advice (even though it costs you some up front money) than be busted for prostitution.

I'm sure some of the girls will be able to provide suggestions as to how to go procuring lawyer's services.

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I have yet to hear of a provider getting busted based on what's on her website.  They do have to be in the room with you, as previously mentioned. I would say go with you are comfortable with.  Def list your no-no's in your FAQ.  It's prob safer to say what you won't do, than it is to say what you will do.

Swim

PS, keep asking questions, that's what this board is for.

I would also suggest BCG get on P411. There she can list a more complete menu of what she offers. I would stick the "Will not do's" on the FAQ page of her website.

I tried getting on P411, but I guess I just don't have the street cred yet!

Definitely don't list what you will do on your website, that's what your reviews are for.   To be safe, I would also not list what you expressly won't do, as it sort of implies what you will do.  It seems to me, most providers don't list what they do or don't, but instead generally imply and emphasize that compensation is for time only.

Ask your clients to review you and perhaps even plant seeds in their heads to discuss the things you'll do and won't do.  That way the substance comes from a third party and not your advertisement.

My .02.

etiquette listings referencing hygiene, be a gentleman, be respectfull, etc.

My suggestion would be to check out the websites of some of the ladies you are comfortable using as "role models". Basically, why re-invent the wheel?

I hate it when you have your sad face on Tobi.  

Dammit, if it were summer I'd be on the bike tomorrow to come see you.   I could make the run in a day.

I wish I didn't hate the idea of flying so much...

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... but regardless of how you word things in the FAQ or any other part in your website...

It's still ILLEGAL!!

Once you figure that part out, then go on with the rest of your life. Just make sure you have TON of money set aside for legal fees and fines that go with your profession.

Serpius

The truth is that LE isn't gonna bust you based on what is said/not said on a website.  Any fool can put together a website and say whatever he/she wants.  The way you can get busted is if they show up and bust you in the act.

Or they can find your information through circumstantial evidence.  For example, in the Zumba case, they busted the girl and found her client information because she had videotaped many of them.  By default, anyone's name that could be traced to the service was a good lead, and the cops simply had to make some phone calls and visits, and often the clients would freak out and fold like a house of cards.

in PRACTICE, once the cops suspect you, everything you do from that point on is damage control.  Once your name is uttered as a potential suspect, at that point all you can do is hope that someone else didn't hear your name, and then do some legal wrangling to get out of an accusation.  But since the accusation has been made and in the age of the internet, it's not hard for this stuff to spread.

So what I'm saying is that your FAQ shouldn't be written thinking that there is some way of writing it so that you don't attract LE.  LE is gonna build a case against you no matter what if they want, and it's not gonna be because of the FAQ section of your website.

I remember some incall place in the west coast that once tried to get around the fact that they were performing illegal activities by saying that they would sell you a bottle of massage oil for $200 and that the sale would include a demonstration of how to apply it.  The idea was that "anything that happened was between two consenting adults."  And they would ask you sign some crazy document that said that.

Guess what?  It's still pretty easy for cops to bust them on that.  Because no matter how you dress it up, it was clearly a ruse for something that was illegal.

Bottom line?  LE is gonna know about you if they want to know about you.  And they are gonna bust you if they want to.  Accept the risks and know that the price you are getting per hour is compensation for taking that risk.  If you are not comfortable with that risk, then up your prices, or stop advertising your services.

Not trying to be harsh, but really...let's not dress this up.  This is an illegal activity, and it is comical how we think that LE can't figure out what we are trying to do.  The truth is that they do know what we are doing, and in many cases, it just isn't worth their time to pursue things.  The yield is too low to spend lots of hours on busting individual providers one at a time.  They are more concerned with busting places of business, or perhaps individual providers that are also providing other illegal services, such as drugs.

If it's any consolation, I don't fly either. Not without a heavy dose of Xanax, anyway.

That's pretty much what I've been doing, but it still seems to be a gray area. Maybe I'll just leave any mention of "acts" out of it completely and just stick to listing my other rules.

Not harsh at all! I appreciate the sound advice.

...you not giving me any more "advice" because of my bond with a certain fellow provider? Now you're just jumping on my threads to be condescending and redundant. It's lame.

guys barely make it past the photos and rates..sad, but true. I did a small Etiquette section right ABOVE my Rates because I know that is where they are actually going to look. Basic stuff like:

Be neatly groomed and freshly showered within the last hour or feel free to use mine.

Do not discuss money or illegal activities in person or via email

Do not show up under the influence of drugs or alcohol, and do not discuss these things in my presence.

I have something about size on there as well, but you get the point. I would stick with Etiquette vs. a FAQ page, and I would also put it on either your Contact or Rates page, because those are two pages they HAVE TO look at.

Never admit to anything especially in writing!  

My lawyer told me, if your not doing anything wrong then why would you need a disclaimer?  A disclaimer is really just an admission of guilt.  

You may have done this already, but if you go to email or contact form only that really weeds out the time wasters, tire kickers, hagglers, and drunk dialers.  No phone calls until screening is done and a meeting is being planned is really the best way to go.  

You know the hierarchy:
It's easiest to say no through email.
It's second easiest to say no on the phone.
It's much harder to say no in person.  

That's why hagglers, con or scam artists try to get you on the phone right away.  They know it's easier to trip you up on the phone and even easier in person.

... didn't I tell you that if you didn't want to read my postings that you can SKIP them??

Yea, I did tell you that.

Hey, if you don't want to have any money set aside for your "legal fund" and the day that you get busted and you don't have any money for bail. What are you going to do? Call your sugar daddy? I doubt that the sugar daddy will want his name associated with a known and now busted prostitute.

If you think that is lame... go ahead. I don't give a fuck.

Serpius

Its ok to put the basic things on your FAQ page about your policies and how to contact you etc.. as far as mentioning you no sexual acts and what you WONT do it soley up to you.  By saying you DO NOT do something is clearly ok.  Its no different than saying you do not do drugs.

I looked at your site and it looks good, you are truly on the right path.  Keep up the good work.  And I saw that you tried to sign up for p411.  That will come with time once you get reviews on the review sites.  Feel free to email me.  We are very similar in the questions and with wanting to be discrete with the tattoos and etc.  I decided not to photo shop mine, but I recently have been thinking of doing so.

A lot of the well seasoned ladies here have been giving you GREAT advice and I wish you the best.  

Here is my email in case you would like to email me.  [email protected]

Sincerely...

*Kendall*

Just now saw this. Thanks so much Kendall!