Every provider screens differently.  If you are unwilling to give work contact info there are simply some girls that you are never going to see. I know girls who will still want work info no matter how many refs. you have or how many screening sites you belong to. This sounds cliche but you simply need to see the girls who are willing to accept the information that you are willing to provide.  There is no magic bullet...

Therefore, I have never had to give out work info.  I rely on DateCheck provider references, P411 provider OK's, TER references from providers, my history on this board, and my rep on a local board for clearances to providers.  So far I have had no problems getting dates.

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How did you guys get off the proverbial "hump" and start seeing providers in the $300-$500 range?  I'm trying to do all of this very discreetly.  I've gotten screened by p411, set up a hobby phone (trac phone paid in cash), and hobby email.  I even given my full name to one provider.  My sticking point is I do not want to give out work info.  Yes,  I value the girls safety and yes I want to see girls who are smart about this.  But frankly,  I really don't want anyone calling my office or having another provider calling my office.   I know this won't be a problem when I get a few references and they won't ask for so much information. At this point though I haven't been able to see anyone who will see me without giving out work info.  My question is to the guys who got started without giving out work info?  Did all or take was finding that one girl who will take a shot on you and than using her as a reference of "legitmacy".  Thanks guys in advance.  I'm trying to do this the right, smart way while protecting myself.

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Your question gets asked almost every day.  Next, if you haven't read the "self help center" I suggest you do.  Ok, now to your main question h"how to get off the schneid,  Start by looking for escorts who are "newbie friendly"  It will be on their web site or sometimes on their screening site profile.

Well reviewed providers when calling your business are going to say something to the effect of this is your dentist confirming your appointment tomorrow.  Also, don't get hung up thinking if you spend more $ for a date, you'll have a better time.  There is always a certain ymmv factor. I've been with ladies for less than $300 and had a great time. You need to read the juicy details of the reviews and of course need to be VIP so you can access these.

I guess in this day and age we are quick to jump on folks and no give the
The benefit if the doubt until proven wrong. Believe youmme I've been reading these boards for a long time and taken the good advice of some, hence the hobby trac phone and new gmail set up.  Your take about them calling your work and calling about a dentist appointment is sloppy there is a thing called caller ID!  Reputable businesses don't block their caller ID!

I have contacted newbie friendly providers on p411 and I'm still running into the "work info"  ANy advice would be greatly appreciated.  My guess is I will just have to keep contacting reputable reviewed providers until one wll see me to get off "the schneid".  

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You say you are on P411, and you still need work info by newbie friendly providers? What you may need to do is drop your initial expectations. When I started before I had p411 and any references, my work was at another companies site and I had a direct line in to my phone so a work phone call would not prove anything. What I realized is that some of the best providers in my area were not available to me at that time. So I started looking at reviewed providers who were not as popular. They were still reviewed providers but not the top tier. Maybe the details said they were not true GFE, or they were a little heavier then the area norm, or even a little older. The main thing is they were more willing to work with me to screen me. We exchanged emails to work out a way that would satisfy her but work within my abilities. In one case after normal hours she called my direct line and left a message, my direct lines exchange told her it was a number inside the company I said. Then I retrieved my voice mail and emailed her back the info she had left. As far as caller id showing an unknown mobile phone had called I was not worried, but then this was a big company and would get lots of mis dialed calls everyday. If you truly can't have calls to work, Your SO answers your phone or reviews your bill then think of ways of proving who you are and suggest that. The main thing is if you are on P411 you should be able to find a newbie friendly provider who will either accept just that, or will work with you on other solutions. Think of your immediate goal as getting a provider to see you and give you an OK, this may not be everything you would like in a provider right now, those ladies will come once you have oks.

If a gentlemen is hesitant about me calling his place of employment then I often suggest work email.
If you can send an email from your work email .-  yourname@ your work. com not a yahoo, gmail , aol or ect...

I even will not reply to your work email , unless instructed by you, because I know often times it can be moderated.

Hope this helps

And I'm sure there still are. I never had to give that out. This may be more of a regional issue. I'm surprised that they are turning you down without compromise if you're open about who you are. After all, there are a lot of retired and self employed guys getting started that they'll see. You'll find one.

if you are not comfortable with a work call.  There are lots of self employed & retired guys who hobby...   The ladies want to be safe.   I'd suggest you come right out & ask how you can make them feel safe with some alternate information they can verify.  It took a bit of back & forth by email.  In my case, I gave the number of my land-line, not to call, but to do reverse look up on.  
You are ahead of the game by being well educated.   When I hobby I give my p411, private email & phone so she can tied my information together.
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Keep trying the newbie friendly providers listed on P411.  There are ways you might be able to be screened through your work information that don't even require a provider to call your workplace.

Work email can be good but a guy may be hesitant to even just send an email to a provider's email address from his work account.  One provider I know got around this by creating very innocuous email account totally separate from her provider account.  That way if someone else was monitoring the guy's work email it would not raise any red flags unlike an email addressed to missproviderxxx.

I think you are right. I have been hobbling for 10 years. Was away for a while. Joined 411. Last three girls wanted at least 2 references. Those that say neebie  friendly want work info. Last 2 girls I saw wouldn't,t give a reference but wanted me to see them again so I knew they had no issues. 411 is basically useless. I know I know they are afraid but I think they will probably just starve.

I joined p411. The last three girls I saw wouldn't give me a referral but wanted me back as a client. These are hard times.

In fact, I worked with P411 to give them other than work info because they prefer that, too, but will accept other info.  The best advice you've gotten is to start with "newbie friendly" "Basic only" providers on P411, then everything opens up.
PS:  don't get pissed at HH.  I don't think he meant to give you a hard time and he knows his shit.

If you saw P411 girls did you go back in and request a client ok right after you saw them? P411 requires the ladies to respond to requests for oks, they would have to give a reason to p411 to turn you down. Now if you did not request the appointment through P411 they may say they don't remember you by your p411 profile.

I think it should be understood that most larger companies are monitoring their employees emails and Internet usage.

Improper usage of Internet at work is often grounds for dismissal even for the first offense.

Internet usage is much more likely to be tracked than phone usage. If the phone call is local, I doubt anyone will catch it.

I would recommend that a client make a simple phone call. It is easier to explain that you fat fingered the phone number if anyone does happen to catch it.

It's much harder to explain how you "accidentally" emailed a provider.

Keep at it - I had my first time with provider tonight.  I'm in th game now!

I sealed the deal last night. Everything I imagined and more! Great provider, all the worrying for nothing but the anticipation was electric

I always told my friends half kidding that getting a high class provider a couple of times a month is better than being married. I think I may have been right!