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Re: I was 25.....
keystonekid 114 Reviews 408 reads
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It is fun to meet providers.  I too do not treat them like a piece of meat.

I'm a newbie but I'm not really an active hobbyist. In the last year and a half I've seen 4 providers. I don't really make a hobby out of it because 1) It's expensive and I'm young and don't make a lot of money, and 2) I am able to pick up women pretty easily without paying for their time. The reason I've gone to providers is because there is something thrilling about the whole experience that turns me on in ways a random hook-up, or regular sex with a girlfriend never could.

I'm 26 years old and I was wondering how old most people were when they first took the plunge and saw a provider? I feel like most people are much older than me. I feel like the majority of hobbyists are older, married dudes whose sex life is lacking at home, or maybe older, lonley guys who have no other option.  The first provider I ever saw almost immediately made a remark about how young I was...she even questioned why I was seeing her by telling me how cute I am and that I must have girls all over me. It was a nice compliment to say the least and I explained to her that there was something very erotic and thrilling about doing something like this. But it got me thinking about what these providers think when they open the door and see a young guy such as myself. Do they think I'm a weirdo? Do they think I'm a socially awkward loser who can't get girls on my own? I guess I shouldn't care what they think, but I can't help it.

So I guess this is a two part question. How old were you when you saw your first provider, and do you think providers think less of you because you are doing this? I get really self-conscious about the whole thing. I should probably stop caring what these women think of me, but I can't help wondering what is going through the head of a provider when they open the door and see their new client for the first time. Do you think providers get turned on physically by clients? Do you think they actually enjoy the time spent with the client or are they just putting on a show? This turned into a much more complex question than I intended it to be, but I'm just curious what others think.

and she was 18, almost 19.  To answer your second question, no I don't think they think less of us.  They are smart enough to know that us men have needs, and that they might be the only way to satisfy those needs.

Don't worry about what they think about you, it's a BUSINESS!!!!!!  It's about the money, not about you.  I'm sure many are physically turned on by the client, but surely not always.  If there is chemistry between the provider and client, of course she will enjoy the time together.  However, many of them are very good actresses, remember that.

These are my opinions, not facts I read somewhere.

Swim

...and after 18 years of marriage, most of it consisting of a very unsatisfying sex life. So when the ex and I split, I did a bit of celebratory exploration in the legal brothels of Nevada in the early 90s. Since I didn't have a clue as to the world of the "hobby" (no internet presence for this sort of thing back then), that was where I got started. After making the acquaintance of a few nice ladies over a period of months during that time, it developed into occasional visits from them to my area. These visits were in between civvie relationships --I've made the point not to mix the "hobby" with my civvie SOs.

It's this separation that allows me to keep the perspective that P4P is just that. I always have the reminder that the envelope provides and it does help keep things in check --

Most of the ladies that I've experienced were happy to have a good customer, especially one who attempts to give them as much pleasure as they give me. That kind of positive feedback loop has ensured mostly great experiences for me, as well as the ladies, and most of them seem to enjoy our time together. But always remember the envelope --

There is nothing wrong with seeing providers at a young age, just try to keep it in perspective.

36 years after seeing my first prostitute, I am still happily banging both civvie chicks and providers alike. Don't worry what others think about you, just do what works for you. Don't deprive yourself of pleasurable experiences simply because others might not approve.

Was with my first Tunnel Bunny (anyone from NYC knows exactly what I mean) on my 17th birthday.  Dabbled in and out of that for a few years, graduated to AMP's in my late 20's...didn't see a point in getting involved beyond that until GFE became more accessible.  Saw my first GFE "escort" in my mid-40's.

Gotta believe any provider spending that much time talking about your age is either concerned that you are LE or is just trying to make conversation, I've honestly never met a judgmental provider whether it has to do with age, marital status, etc...

I hope that, at 17, you made sure your Tunnel Bunny wasn't a tranny! Lots of them are!

Didn't you ever do the crotch test back then?  CBJ for $20 but you got to grab between her legs for 10 seconds to make sure that she was a she!

I was 29 and the gal that was "the one" had just split a few days earlier. I was looking for anything to dull the pain, so I called a local service. I knew absolutely nothing about what I was doing, I remember asking for a smart brunette. An hour later a girl that looked 17 came over. Her extreme business approach and emotional distance barely hid how obviously she would rather have been anywhere else.
I snuck a look out the window to see a very large man in a car waiting for her.

The whole scene was so grim - certainly worsened by my recent break-up - I placed an envelop on the table and sent her on her way after about 5-10 minutes of talking. Nothing more.

10 years later I moved to Las Vegas. That changed everything. :)

I didn't interpret the OP as judging the guy for being young.  I thought she was pleasantly surprised that it was a guy who was close in age to her who she thought was attractive.  If a provider is genuinely attracted to a guy it has to make a better session.

My first foreign liberty port after joining the Navy. I just followed the older guys to a nearby bar and pretty much spent the weekend there. As to your second question, I won't waste your time or mine speculating about what women think of us.

I was 40...a street girl near the Javits Center for a CBJ.

we'll never really know and further, we shouldn't even care.

As long as they do their job well and make us happy, that is what matters most.

To dwell on the intangible and metaphysical aspects of this is like trying to disect humor.  There's no better way to kill it than that.

too much thought into trying to understand P4P.  It is the oldest profession for a reason.  Guys need sex and are willing to pay for a no-strings attached arrangement whether it be for an hour or multi-hours.  

Sometimes we say that we pay the lady to leave rather than get into a drama situation like you would if you had an affair.  The analogy for a single guy would be a glinging GF that wouldn't give him space.

when I had my first encounter, and took a few years off then returned again.  From what I've heard by speaking to proivders.....they prefer older 30 and older because  a lot of times they are more mature, and easier to deal with.

A lot of times younger guys play too many games, haggle on rates, and don't understand it P4S, and move on.

I've had several providers tell me I'm really nice, and enjoy having sessions with me. Because I'm nice, have the correct donation, and speak to them as a person and not as a piece of meet.

It is fun to meet providers.  I too do not treat them like a piece of meat.

I was 29 or 30.  It never occurred to me that I should worry about what they thought of me way back then.  I was picking up street walkers and almost never thought of them beyond their usefulness in getting me off.  It's a bit different now and I've actually become good friends with a couple of providers over the years.  The ones I know well don't resent me or their other customers. Of course they don't care for guys who treat them poorly.  I'm sure there are some gals who do resent every guy that they see but honestly it's the last thing you should worry about.  Just relax and enjoy the sex.  Don't over-think things.

i had a blast with every lady i've met. I don't much care what a provider might think of me or why im doing this. Plus I always let them know ahead of time of my age so no surprises.

I'm pretty much you're age. I've found that being in this age range is more of a pleasant surprise rather than something that leads to judgment. Same affect as you go into a strip club if you're well groomed, polite, smell and look nice. You're going to be treated better. Often you relate to the ladies better. Same age means more things in common (at least with regard to surface conversations about people, culture, tv, music, whatever)

You're too self-conscious about your age. I'm assuming you're single like I am based on your comments so enjoy the fact that this gives ladies less moral qualms at times about what they're doing. Beyond all this, stop over-analyzing it.

I am turning 65 next month...I just had my first nude massage yesterday..My first time..Have been married 37 years without any cheating. Has good sex life at home but no romance and same O- same-O.
Will continue as a hobbyist but only with massage and HJ..No guilt here.

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