Newbie - FAQ

Re: How do you know it is safe...
boxscar 1498 reads
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As others have stated, no sexual activity is completely risk free (with or without protection). The key is to make the risk the lowest. However, keep in mind that there are different levels of risk. Ulcerations and discharge are a dead give away for traditional diseases such as syphilis, gonorrhea, and herpes. AIDS/HIV is clearly the most feared, yet almost unascertainable other than in late stages. Keep in mind though, with regards to AIDS/HIV, on one end are the riskiest practices (unprotected anal receptive intercouse) and on the other the least riskiest (kissing, receptive oral sex). The medical literature reveals that the highest risk partners still are IV drug users and gay/bisexual men (before anyone jumps on me for this statement, let me say that this is not a moral judgment but simply an epidemiological observation).  Unlike Sub-Sahara Africa, pure heterosexual transmission of AIDS/HIV outside the highest risk groups is still uncommon in the US but does happen.  This data is all available in the medical literature but it takes some doing to break it down into specific risk categories since the CDC tends to refrain from categorizing risk groups nowadays.  In summary, use protection as it lowers the risk in all categories, assess the practices you want to engage in, and the type of partner you choose.


You could probably tell by my questions that I am new to this hobby...

How do you know a provider is "safe"? i.e. disease free... What acts you could do and yet stay within a safe zone?

Obvious things like provider offering any uncovered services is a red flag. But how can one tell what acts can be done safely or if the provider is clean? I personally love lots of kissing and DATY. But it is nerve wrecking to have the "disease" angle hanging over me during these activities. Are there any tell-tale signs that one could look for?

I would especially like hearing from any providers on this topic. Thanks.

I have hobbied for 26 years. I have not found a sure fire way to tell whether a provider is disease free just as she can't tell that I am disease free. I use common sense. Any sores, fresh or healed can be a red flag. Hygiene for me is a giveaway, I have the ole nose in hyper sense, if it smells any, I avoid. You can use a dental dam when doing DATY and ask only for CBJ. Carry a small vial of mouthwash, use to rinse out your mouth discretely in a toilet promptly after a session.

nervousone1179 reads

What is the best way of preventing yourself from being caught by LE based on your experience?

I avoided massage palors. I avoided street walkers. I avoided engaging a provider in a public place. Most of all, I am hyper aware of the goings on in my surroundings at all times.

WebTerrorist1698 reads

but, safe sex is not a new concept.
Worried about DATY? get some dental dams...
worried about dfk? don't do it.

Covered activities are safer, but, to prove the universe does have a sense of humour, even with proper condom use two STIs (HPV and Herpes...two of the ones that can't be cured) can still be be transmitted...

Now, here is a bit of a shocker for you:
The woman at the bar, the college girl, the hookup on vacation...they are just as likely to be "unclean" as the ladies here...
in some ways more likely, since it isn't their livelihood which depends on them being disease free.

If you can't get past your fears of disease to be able to see a lady, then this is probably the wrong 'hobby" for you.
and I guarantee no one wants to see a "I saw a provider yesterday and now my dick stings...she gave me something" post from you (or anyone else).

Read the link provided in the post above...and understand you should have known how to be safe, and play safe before you wrote the review you already have...Hell, you should know how to be and play safe before you had sex with anyone, no matter how you meet them...the fact that you are just wondering about staying clean now, makes me think you are bigger risk to the ladies than they are to you...that is unless you were a virgin and that first review is the first time you ever had sex...even ten you should have known a little something about keeping you and your partner safe.

I don't understand the last para you wrote... I was simply asking opinions on the safe activities. I have never engaged in unsafe practices myself. I have seen a total of 4 providers so far, and like I said, would like to engage in DATY and DFK, but the fear of the unknown has been stopping me from doing that. Not sure what review you are talking about...

WebTerrorist1812 reads

It says:
" [iloveexotic has 1 review]"

So you don't know about safer activities or how to make unsafe activities safer...but you have been with four ladies in this business an wrote one review.

The time to worry about being safe is before you see four ladies.

I assume this is what you want to know:

Performing Oral Sex on a Woman
Herpes-known risk
HPV (warts)-unknown risk


But if you have gotten a BBBJ or even CBJ (for some  diseases or if the condom fails):
Receiving Oral Sex, Man
Chlamydia -known risk
Gonorrhea -known risk
NGU -known risk
Herpes -known risk
Syphilis -known risk
HPV (warts) -unknown risk

With Kissing your biggest risks are the common cold and herpes.

My point is you should know about risk before you ever dip your wick,with anyone, not after however many civie women and four providers...

You have greater risk getting a BJ than you do giving DATY.

As I said want to make DATY safer use a dental dam.

Here is the cold hard truth...other than masturbation, NO activities are SAFE...
there is no such thing as SAFE sex with a partner...what you can have is SAFER sex.
So you want to know what activities are safe...simple, masturbation.

As to how to tell if a lady has something...you can't unless she has open sores.
 
Here is a question though...
since you say you love DATY and Kissing I assume you have done both things...
so did you wonder if those women were dirty and could give you something as well?
Or do reserve the thoughts that women are dirty for the ladies in this business?

My last paragraph is simple you and your dick's health were in danger the first time you ever whipped it out with another person...
so, you should have always been concerned about it and not just wait until you found this "hobby" and these women to think about it.

Thank you for posting a detailed response.

I understand there are not completely safe activities. Was just looking to pick up any tips that will make my future sessions more enjoyable. Yes, I've been with 4 providers, but did not engage in any risky (e.g. DATY or anything uncovered) activities with them. I see from reviews that people do enjoy such activities, so was looking for pointers.

Thanks again for your post.

boxscar1499 reads

As others have stated, no sexual activity is completely risk free (with or without protection). The key is to make the risk the lowest. However, keep in mind that there are different levels of risk. Ulcerations and discharge are a dead give away for traditional diseases such as syphilis, gonorrhea, and herpes. AIDS/HIV is clearly the most feared, yet almost unascertainable other than in late stages. Keep in mind though, with regards to AIDS/HIV, on one end are the riskiest practices (unprotected anal receptive intercouse) and on the other the least riskiest (kissing, receptive oral sex). The medical literature reveals that the highest risk partners still are IV drug users and gay/bisexual men (before anyone jumps on me for this statement, let me say that this is not a moral judgment but simply an epidemiological observation).  Unlike Sub-Sahara Africa, pure heterosexual transmission of AIDS/HIV outside the highest risk groups is still uncommon in the US but does happen.  This data is all available in the medical literature but it takes some doing to break it down into specific risk categories since the CDC tends to refrain from categorizing risk groups nowadays.  In summary, use protection as it lowers the risk in all categories, assess the practices you want to engage in, and the type of partner you choose.

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