Generally, massage therapists who ONLY offer massage do not advertise on hooker boards, so that should be your first clue. "Most" FBSM providers offer L1 and L2 services which means a hand job or a blow job ending, some do L3 which is sex.

so called legitimate LMT spas.

Check out how they market themselves if the have a website.  Is it full of scantily clad gals with come hither eyes, or is it something that you could put in a magazine for a school fund raiser?

Also, if the gal asks you that "What do you like?" question at the beginning, she may only be inquiring as to what kind of pressure or style of massage (Swedish, shiatsu, Thai, etc.) that you want.

On the other hand, if after the flip, she asks that question, that almost always is a come-on to start the negotiations for the sex part.

Then there are the little nuances:  Do they have a  PA playing new age music (no sex), or a more disco or oldie type of repertoire (better)?

Are there reflexology charts on the wall (bad), or depictions of the Kama Sutra (good)?

Are the lights turned down so low you can't see for a while until your eyes acclimate (good), or is theh place nice and bright and sunny (not so good)?

Are there mirrors on the wall (good), or just a tiny mirror near the door so you can tie your tie afterwards (no help)?  A mirror on the ceiling over the table is the jackpot.

I think this is part of what makes going to new massage parlors fun - trying to figure out if you'll get any action or just a (hopefully) decent massage.

There is no definite determination that will always hold up.  Sometimes I've gone to the sleaziest AMP only to be told that they do not do any extras, and other times I struck the jackpot at some place that looked like the Pope could be a client.

There is one venue however where I find there is never any sex:  hotel and resort spas.  Unless anyone has found differently, I've never had any luck getting even a HE at any such venue.

Although you may get some general responses here, it is best to hear them from the person you're interested in seeing.
I advertise on BP in bodyrubs and am not an escort while there are mostly escorts claiming to offer massage but have no clue what they're doing.  Advertising sensual massage in the therapeutic section of Cl or BP will get you flagged and reported by angry straightforward LMT's.
Body-ruba are useless if you want an actual legit massage with sensual elements. A legit body worker is better suited to offer an experience more worthwhile.  Just do your homework and try to have an open mind... There are more enjoyable and creative sensual massages that aren't the typical "happy ending"

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Big difference there.

If they are legit therapists, I wouldn't try anything.  You can get away with it, but you need to really build up to the point where you can ask her for those kinds of services.  The average worker who works at a spa...good luck.  But if it's an indie provider that offers therapeutic massage, extras may be available.  Just read the ad copy and see if you can make some sense out of it.  If she says "draping is optional," then she may be open to more.

For bodyrub providers that don't advertise in the legit section...it's just a question of whether they do it topless or nude, how much interaction they allow, and whether they do more than just a handjob.  But don't expect a good massage.

This is not the place to be arguing, people.

This is the place to help newbies make an educated safe entry into this hobby of ours.  This debating back and forth on this forum, regardless of what topic, needs to STOP!!!!!  If you want to argue the merits of anything hobby related, use the GD board, not this one.  Unfortunately, I do not have the authority to delete posts any more, or I would have deep-sixed this whole thread, it's not helping anyone.  Somebody asks for some simple advice and it gets turned into a full-fledged debate for a whole lot of other stuff.

Let's remember what the purpose of the newbie board is and keep the integrity of it.  If you are not going to offer help to those that need it, then take it somewhere else.

Swim