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Embarrassed to admit I did this twice…to the same lady!

I was preparing to travel to an annual event and decided I wanted companionship. I did my homework and found a very well-reviewed lady. We exchanged e-mail and everything seemed to be going well, until I refused to commit to a specific amount of time. I figured we'd meet, and if it didn't work out I'd just offer to pay for her dinner and cab fare. Needless to say, the lady declined to appear.

Something about our e-mail conversation stayed with her, though, because the next year, just before the event, she contacted me asking if I'd still like to get together! Again I refused to commit to a time, and again I spent the event alone.

I was Mr. Wrong's hapless cousin, Mr. Clueless. I'd like to think I've grown a bit wiser since then.

Please keep in mind that this is all tongue-in-cheek with a some sarcasm.  

It’s the story of a newbie hobbyist, who we will call" Mr. Wrong" (as you will soon see why) who will make all the worst mistakes some  newbie hobbyists make.  Hopefully, not the ones who have found this board.  .

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Mr. Wrong finds a lady he is interested in seeing.  That’s the first step.   He has read her reviews, drooled over her photos and decides to contact her.  He then sends his initial email.  Not wanting to be too blunt, he throws in a few acronyms.  Understand that he does not preface the email with any information about himself.  He simply writes something to the effect of:

Your hot.  I want to fuck you.  Do you DATY?  Allow CIM? Offer MSOG? Can I cum on your face?  Can you give me your address?

Let’s figure out where Mr. Wrong went wrong.  First, a well -constructed, thought out in and polite introductory email goes a long way.  It does not have to be a long.  Secondly, a lady is not about to discuss any sexual specifics with you and especially since she has not prescreened you.  , So, any chance of this inquiry resulting in an appointment and her being your first provider, and your first reference, have gone out the window with your inappropriate initial contact.  The lady is most likely very insulted.

Her response is likely to be (if she even responds):

LHM (Lord Have Mercy)
IWFU (I wanna fuck you)
ISH (Insert Sarcasm Here)
AYSOS (Are you stupid or something?)
BIOYA (Blow it out your ass.)
GFU (Go fuck yourself.)
DWB (Don’t write back!)
RTFM (Read the fucking manual with a link to the TER Newbie page Self-Help Section)



This is followed by one keystroke (delete) as your email is sent to the trash.

Let’s step back and give Mr. Wrong the benefit of the doubt.

Let’s say that he decides to write a lovely email to the lady.  However, he makes another classic newbie mistake and attaches a photo of a certain part of his anatomy.  Yes, the infamous penis picture.  Let’s face it, if a lady wants to see a photo of a penis, she will subscribe to Playgirl.  Also, in real life, she sees plenty of the real thing.  What she does not want is to receive a penis photo from a man she has never seen.
If you send a photo of your phallus, don’t be surprised if she sends a response like this:

Dear XXX,
Unless you can do this with your penis,  I have seen one or two of them before and do not need to see a photo of yours.  If you can, I would love to see a photo.


Also, this would be the point where she deletes your email and blocks your email address.  

Okay, Mr. Wrong wouldn’t be dumb enough to send a photo of his penis.  Instead, he has found a provider,  reviewed her website and drooled over her photos (including recent ones) and has taken the time to read her FAQs (Frequently Asked Questions) where she clearly states that she does not send out photos.  However, Mr. Wrong is convinced that this does not apply to him (it applies to the 100’s or 1000’s of other gentlemen who visit her site, but not to him) and he sends her an email asking for more photos (possibly unblurred), sexier photos or photos of her wet pussy.  

Well, he may just get lucky.  She may decide to send him that wet pussy photo.  Feel better now, Mr. Wrong?

No, it is not where were you when I was new. Not even whether these are all real examples of actual emails and exchanges you have had. I suspect they are awful close to true, if not completely so.

No, I just want to know how many shows a week you put on, and when. That way I will not miss any more of this stuff. It is rich.

A fellow hobbyist and I have developed another acronym that we apply to ourselves when we do certain things - PP (pitiful putz). It does apply to all of us at times, and thanks for helping some of us avoid being PPs more often than necessary.

Gotta go now as I need to broadcast new photos of my penis to every provider on my list. It looks really cool today and I know they will love to see it because every time I see them they tell me how big and wonderful it is and that they can't get enough of it!!!

It is a good thing to send photos of your cock to a lady you have met, right Sin? (Oops, that makes two questions.)

zig


Okay, so Mr. Wrong can’t possibly be that uninformed.  Now let’s assume that he has not made any of the aforementioned newbie mistakes and the lady has decided to screen him and possibly take a chance and become his first provider experience.  Congratulations, Mr. Wrong you are ahead of the game.  

Since he is a newbie and has no reference, the lady either directs him to her appointment request form or sends him an email telling him exactly what information she needs.  Rather than cooperate, Mr. Wrong is apprehensive about sharing this information with her.  Even though she is a well-reviewed and respected provider, he has heard stories.  Or perhaps he believes that he has such a high profile job that he cannot possibly provide her with the information she needs.

Mr. Wrong needs to understand that the lady does pre-screening for her own safety.  The lady needs to feel comfortable that the person she is meeting is not violent or LE.  While this is not foolproof, she still needs to do what she can to feel safe meeting a client.  If Mr. Wrong does not want to go along with prescreening, he can; a) join a prescreening service such as P411, RS2k or Datecheck.  He can also take a chance and find a lady whose prescreening is not as rigid, possibly even non-existant.  Understand, however, that he may be taking a risk seeing a lady who is not well-reviewed.  Also understand that many ladies only accept reference from well-reviewed providers.  

Mr. Wrong did his homework and sought out a well-reviewed provider, she needs to do her homework and verify him.  

Mr. Wrong, it is  not recommended that you try to convince the lady to see you with the promise that you will show her your identification at the appointment.  It is also not likely that she is going to risk her safety by allowing you, Mr. Wrong,  to visit her, thus revealing her location, so she can verify you.  Or just as highly unlikely that she will drive to you, wasting her time, so that you can show her identification.

It’s simple:  No prescreening = No appointment.  You’ll probably have to settle for this.

Mr. Wrong has never done this before.  So he writes to a provider and inquires “Can we meet for drinks or dinner and if we get along and if there is chemistry, we can have an appointment?”

You don’t know how many times ladies receive emails like this.  Our first thought is that some guy does not want to dine alone or thinks that, by buying a lady a nice dinner at a fancy restaurant, he may get lucky off-the-clock.  I can’t say that this never happens, but the Magic 8 ball says “Outlook Not So Good.”

In truth, we can buy our own dinners or accept dinner dates from gentlemen who are compensating us for our time and companionship.  Providers have lives.  We spend our free time with our families, friends, outside interests and doing routine activities such as; housecleaning, laundry, shopping, running errands.  When we spend time with a gentleman, it’s on a paid basis as a compensated companion.

There is no casting couch and we are not auditioning.


-- Modified on 10/6/2011 12:47:57 PM

Embarrassed to admit I did this twice…to the same lady!

I was preparing to travel to an annual event and decided I wanted companionship. I did my homework and found a very well-reviewed lady. We exchanged e-mail and everything seemed to be going well, until I refused to commit to a specific amount of time. I figured we'd meet, and if it didn't work out I'd just offer to pay for her dinner and cab fare. Needless to say, the lady declined to appear.

Something about our e-mail conversation stayed with her, though, because the next year, just before the event, she contacted me asking if I'd still like to get together! Again I refused to commit to a time, and again I spent the event alone.

I was Mr. Wrong's hapless cousin, Mr. Clueless. I'd like to think I've grown a bit wiser since then.

Mr. Wrong has Mercedes tastes and a Ford Focus budget.  That’s nothing to be ashamed of.  We all have to live within our means.

Mr. Wrong,  I would say that the majority of the providers who advertise state on their websites that their rates are firm.  This means that they do not appreciate receiving emails from gentlemen who would like them to reduce their donation simply because they cannot afford it.  It’s insulting.  Especially, if he has never seen the lady before.  

Every lady sets her donation based upon a number of factors; their geographical area, their reviews and what the market will bear.  If her donation appears high to you, Mr. Wrong, it is irrelevant, because if she is apparently able to get that amount from hobbyists willing to pay.   Also consider that some ladies may offer specials from-time-to-time.  It is okay to ask about this, but do not be upset if they say “NO.”  

Save the haggling, Mr. Wrong, for the car dealer and find a lady whose donation is in line with you can afford.


Having avoided all the pitfalls of what newbies do wrong, Mr. Wrong has  written a notice introductory email to a provider, he has been prescreened and has an appointment scheduled.  He is nervous and excited  and would like to talk to this lady by telephone or email before his appointment.  Some ladies will allow limited contact prior to the appointment so that the client (especially a newbie) can put his mind at ease.  Generally, one (or two) contact before the appointment.  

Mr. Wrong, however, decides to text, email and phone daily.  He wants her to know how excited he is about his upcoming appointment. Sometimes multiple times daily.

Providers get numerous calls and emails daily. While, not all of them result in appointments, they still must be addressed.  For the actual appointment requests, the lady needs time to pre-screen the gentleman.  She also needs time to request information from or answer questions from potential clients, provide and request references from other ladies, send thank you notes, etc..  She also needs time for the actual appointments.  

When not working, she spends time with her family and friends and does all of the normal activities of daily living; housecleaning, having her nails and hair done, grocery and clothes shopping, paying bills, cooking dinner, etc.  If every potential or existing client were to call or write daily, she would not have time to get anything done, let alone see clients.

Mr. Wrong, please be respectful of the ladies time.  You’ll have her full and undivided attention when you meet.    Don’t become a:

There are only three reasons why I would communication with a provider once we'd set the date.
1) If she prefers to pass the info re her general location this way, i.e., "E-mail me the morning of our date for the name and location of my incall."
2) To make a clothing request.
3) The final call from the lobby of the incall or from whatever other place she told me to go to make the final call.
Anything else is time-wasting.

Having had ladies cancel on me in novel ways, I tend to overcommunicate a bit to be sure there are no missed connections, specifically:

I make sure she has contact information and knows how to get hold of me if something comes up.
I make sure she knows how long it will take me to get to her, and ask nicely that she provide me with destination information before I set out on that trip.
And if the appointment was made more than a day ahead, which is usually the case for me, I touch base the day before to confirm that we are still on.

All of that takes one, maybe two, emails after we confirm a date and time, no more. Some providers deal with it all before I have to, but others are not so organized. In any case, there is nothing worse than to arrive, call, and be told, "I cancelled the date because I was not sure how to get hold of you, not sure if you were coming..." Now, we can question the truth of this since the last communication with the lady was very specific - show up at X time, and call me when you get there - the day before. So I was following her rules, but I had not given her all my contact info, so she really was challenged to contact me while I was on the road. Anyway, that won't happen again.

While I am, and always will be a PP (no, not a Polish Pirate, as there can only be one, just a pitiful putz), I find nothing more annoying than to a arrive at or near a location, only to sit there with my dick in my hand, so to speak, and nothing to do with it because the lady is MIA.

Which brings us to the last rule, and the most important for me.

If she goes NCNS, never, ever, ever, hit the ads looking for someone to see in the next hour because you are all worked up with nowhere to go. Always take time and let the big head do the planning. I have tried both, and the fire drill has always, every time without fail, resulted in a less satisfying experience, even when it was a lady on my TDL. Take your time, do it right, make sure both your heads are in the right place to have a good time.

zig

Posted By: ziggy440
Having had ladies cancel on me in novel ways, I tend to overcommunicate a bit to be sure there are no missed connections, specifically:

I make sure she has contact information and knows how to get hold of me if something comes up.
I make sure she knows how long it will take me to get to her, and ask nicely that she provide me with destination information before I set out on that trip.
And if the appointment was made more than a day ahead, which is usually the case for me, I touch base the day before to confirm that we are still on.

All of that takes one, maybe two, emails after we confirm a date and time, no more. Some providers deal with it all before I have to, but others are not so organized. In any case, there is nothing worse than to arrive, call, and be told, "I cancelled the date because I was not sure how to get hold of you, not sure if you were coming..." Now, we can question the truth of this since the last communication with the lady was very specific - show up at X time, and call me when you get there - the day before. So I was following her rules, but I had not given her all my contact info, so she really was challenged to contact me while I was on the road. Anyway, that won't happen again.

While I am, and always will be a PP (no, not a Polish Pirate, as there can only be one, just a pitiful putz), I find nothing more annoying than to a arrive at or near a location, only to sit there with my dick in my hand, so to speak, and nothing to do with it because the lady is MIA.

Which brings us to the last rule, and the most important for me.

If she goes NCNS, never, ever, ever, hit the ads looking for someone to see in the next hour because you are all worked up with nowhere to go. Always take time and let the big head do the planning. I have tried both, and the fire drill has always, every time without fail, resulted in a less satisfying experience, even when it was a lady on my TDL. Take your time, do it right, make sure both your heads are in the right place to have a good time.

zig

Hobbyists and providers alike give their time to answer questions that new hobbyists may have.  And, there is always the Newbie Board Moderator, who oversees the board and help out.

In the upper right hand corner, their is a "self help" area.  If you click on this area, you will find most of the information you will need to begin the hobby.

The Newbie Discussion Board is also a great place to talk to hobbyists and providers who are happy to answer your questions.  If you do a search of this board, by a particular topic, you can often find answers to your questions as they have probably been asked before,

Have fun hobbying.

(and again, this was intended to be taken with a sense of humor),

RGK31431052 reads

At least I didn't make any of these mistakes in my initial contacts, although I did drool over quite a few pics.. :)

I always thought I was the only provider getting those emails!   I really the email, (which I get about 5 a day), that say, "CALL ME! (insert phone number here)".   Guess what?  My reply is a simple, "I'm story, I do not call any gentleman, until he is verified."  then I add my screening requirements.  

My ultimate favorite was, "Are you GFE?  What GFE services do you provide?  What refreshments do you provide?...."   I deleted the email.   I now wish, I would have answered as followed...

Dear Potential BF,  
I am the real GFE!  I've wanting a real BFE, just like you!

I do provide the following GFE services; I will text and call you, all day long wondering if you miss me and what you are doing.  I will tell you about my financial problems.  I will send you to the store to buy my tampons, when I'm on my period.  I will ask you to change my oil, brakes, tires and repair my car when needed.  I will have you take out the garbage everytime you come over.  I will not get dolled up for you, unless we are going out.  I will have you attend all my familys functions.  I will ask you to walk my dog and pick up it's poop.  

As far as the refreshments, I serve, will depend on what groceries you are bringing over, for us to enjoy while we watch my favorite chick flick dvd!    

Can't wait to nag you,
Laina

.... at least half of the guys experienced and newbie will do everything they've been instructed not to do and worse lol.

Be nice, when I yell at you for doing the following stupid things, if you can catch me before I hang up you might have a chance

-Ask me for face photos
-Ask me for 100/hr rate
-Ask me if I have "kinky proclivaties"
-Ask me if I am Bi
-Ask me stupid questions after you say you don't know when you can meet
-Tell me I'm married is that okay?
-I like it RAW is that ok?
-You down to Party cuz I'm on XYZ right now and high as a kite
-CAN MY FRIEND OVER HERE COME TOO?
-Can you come to long beach its only 1 am
-If you come to long beach can my friend watch for free?
-I

First I need to say, that I am always flattered and grateful when a gentleman is interested in visiting me and requests an appointment.  I screen really well and rarely have to interact with jerks.  With that said, I do get a few silly requests to negotiate my rate and some crazy dress requests.   I don't get mad at the dress requests, I find some entertaining.  

Awww... the wonderful world of negotiating and request!  

Wow, it never ceases to amaze me when I get the emails asking me to drop my price, especially, when I see that person has reviewed/seen at least 3 girls in the past two weeks,  that charge more than I do.   Now, you not only want me to drop my rate, but you also have a dress request.   Guess what?  I don't have an endless wardrobe, to satisfy everyones fantasy, these crazy latex and paten leasther go go boots will cost me quite a bit of money probably 3 times the amount of the price you want to pay me.  Not to mention gas and time to run around looking for it.   (FYI gentlemen, thigh high stockings aren't cheap and by the way they run very easily.  So, sometimes, I have them and sometimes I don't. I try to stock up, but the request are never ending.  So, when you want to see me last minute and 5 minutes before our appt. you text the request for them, you're more than likely not going to get them.)

I have had a "gentleman caller" email me the following requests, after he had passed all my screening requirements.  "...Please, show up with freshly shampooed hair, no product in it (gel, mousse, hairspray), freshly shaven legs, bright red lip stick, bright red nail polish, freshly manicured & pedicured nails, open toe backless heels."   I almost wrote him back and said, "fetish is extra".  :)

I think it's funny, when I get crazy request.  It makes life interesting.  Sometimes, I can take requests, and sometimes I can't.  Just like, sometimes, I feel like a nut and sometimes, I don't. ;)

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