If you are focused on the money you have missed the boat regarding this whole experience. Wouldn't you gladly pay 40 or 50 bucks more for a great lay verses a so so lay? You want the SP to not concentrate on the money so don't you concentrate on the money. If the diff is 40-50 bucks pay the higher toll. When she opens the envelope in the bathroom or wherever she will be happy and in turn will probably make you happy. Don't focus on the cash focus on doing the hibidy-dibity. Have fun.
I understand why providers don't allow a discussion about donations, but how do you decide on a figure when you see multiple rates for the same provider? I have seen several times a provider list one rate on her web site, a different amount in a review while postings on backpage, CL, etc. display a variety of rates. While the differences generally are not large, I'd imagine $40 or $50 would be enough to raise a question. I know specials are offered, but do I have to mention it if that is what I am expecting to donate?
Yeah, that's a dilema. A couple of years ago it wasn't much of an issue, but now in some cases LE is using voice conversations as evidence.
There's no real answer - if a girl has multiple rates, I guess you just have to ask what her companionship costs. If she freaks and hangs up on you or something, move on.
I solve the problem by only having one price, posted on my web site. Sometimes while traveling the rate will be different which I post.
In those instance, I use cite the source of the donation in my request for an appointment.Ex
Dear beautiful I am requesting a 2 hour appointment at the donation rate cited on CL or Web Page or TER board. I often make a electronic copy of the cited souce just in case their is a misunderstanding.
Understand, first and foremost, that it's not that providers are unwilling to discuss their donations with you beforehand; it's that they do not want to discuss their donations in the context of what you are ultimately paying them to do. You are perfectly within your rights to ask a provider what her donation is, especially if there are discrepancies in her listed rates among various postings. Just be professional in how you phrase the question...."I just wanted to confirm your donation for an hour of your time". Keep it simple and obviously refrain from discussing anything sexual.
Even if you only come across one rate, I always think it’s a good idea to reconfirm with any provider you are seeing for the first time the lady's rate. The last thing you want to have happen to you is to arrive at a session and expect to pay 300 and the lady expects 400. It is an uncomfortable situation for all involved.
"Even if you only come across one rate, I always think it’s a good idea to reconfirm with any provider you are seeing for the first time the lady's rate."
Many of us do not like to discuss our rate AT ALL, this is one of the wonderful things about having our own website - unlike here or advertising malls, we can be responsible for and change what information is provided.
If there is a question because of differing rates in various places, it is simple enough to say, "Should I plan our time off the information that I found on your website, or is the TER profile more current?"
I agree that some providers are tired of responding to questions such as "Hey honey, what are your rates" when that information is readily available on her website. It becomes especially tiresome from newbies who are just surfing for information and have no idea how to act in a professional and discreet manner.
However, if you are seeing a provider for the very first time, and you want to avoid having the wrong donation amount upon your arrivval, than by all means it is completely appropriate to verify that her website is indeed accurate. I dont see a problem of re-confirming what that rate is as long as you have asked her in a professional, non-sexual manner.
I will hang up on anyone who says, "It's $300/hr, right?"
I will say YES to the gentleman who asks "Is your website information current?"
There is NO need to talk money. If you feel the need, be aware you are dramatically increasing the number of ladies who will send you to the trash folder or dial tone. If you want to do that, go right ahead... If you'd like to respect a ladies wishes, be discreet.
Wow, looking at your site, I wish I was in Seattle. If you ever come to Boston, please let me know. I know it's only a two year period, but you have grown more beautiful from your 2005 to your 2007 pictures. I'm impressed. You also sound like a very nice and classy lady from your reviews.
Sorry kerr82 to jump your post, but I have found that if I don't say it right away, I usually won't.
While I respect your desire and discretion not to discuss any monetary figures on the phone, to simply hang up on a gentleman caller who states "I just wanted to confirm that your donation is 300 for an hour of your time" is out of line. The mere mention of a dollar figure should not warrant you to hang up as long as there are NO sexual hints or innuendos in the question. Even if the hobbyist phrases it a little more crudely as "Hey, its 300 for an hour, correct?", I still think this is an appropriate question to ask. There is no sexual suggestion in the question at all.
I have been a hobbyist for over 10 years, and NEVER has a provider found offense, or worse just hung up, when I ask them to reconfirm a donation. They will just respond with either yes, that's correct or No, the actual donation is 400 for the hour.
No, out of line is when someone does not to read my website and respect my wishes. I clearly state that I will tolerate NO discussion of my fees via email, phone OR in person. Many ladies do similar.
NOT every lady has my policies. That said, when giving general suggestions on a board like this, it's best to always err on the side of caution, I would think.
There is absolutely no reason you should ever have to mention the fee to the lady, when you can simply tell her where you found the ad and ask if the information is correct. If it is an outdated site she will send you to the more current info.
As I said, you are welcome to do as you please. WE are welcome to set our rules for our comfort. When those two mesh - FIREWORKS! When they don't... well... there are more fish in the sea. : )
Dear Sola: I was wondering what other vernacular could you use to be subtle and still get an answer to the question? I know that this is a sensitive legal issue when you do this but there has got to be a method to acheive this without killing the conversation? Would you say as long as you are tactful and respectful that you have the opportunity to acheive this goal and continue on. Or would you discreetly refer them to the website when one would have an inquiry of the manner? Also was is another careful way of disclosing this information for those that would not have access to a computer? What other publications could one obtain this from?
If a lady has a recent ad with a lower rate (unless the ad is for a special that doesn't apply), then when I contact her, I say: "I saw your ad on XYZ, and am interested in a date". She knows what rate you saw and should expect that.
Rates on Reviews can be old rates, so don't go by them. There are lots of reasons review rates can be different (special, different location, she just raised her rates, etc.).
I agree with everyone here, stick with the rates on her site.
Some providers raise their donation during the year. However, they grandfather in "existing" clients. That said, a review by someone who has seen her before the increase may reflect a different donation.
non-special (it will be identified if special) rate, unless you qualify for the special, and be ready to give her the rest if asked. Unless she does a market survey on where you heard of her, she will not know which ad you saw, and therefore should not realistically expect you to pay the most.
If you are focused on the money you have missed the boat regarding this whole experience. Wouldn't you gladly pay 40 or 50 bucks more for a great lay verses a so so lay? You want the SP to not concentrate on the money so don't you concentrate on the money. If the diff is 40-50 bucks pay the higher toll. When she opens the envelope in the bathroom or wherever she will be happy and in turn will probably make you happy. Don't focus on the cash focus on doing the hibidy-dibity. Have fun.
Nothing is ever a straightforward as it should be. But I have found that some ladies price is unambiguous; they don't run specials, they don't change rates back and forth as the market will tolerate. The price is the price is the price. With these ladies the website is the law and asking about the donation is not needed.
Other ladies run specials frequently and some charge different amounts on different sites (it is not uncommon for Eros rates to be above the rates on a local board or ad site). In this case it is always (in my experience) OK to say I saw your ad on ABC but wanted to confirm that an hour long incall is $275? I have never had any issues with this approach.
Mind you my research on providers always lets me know what I can expect in a session so I never discuss, allude or hint at session details.
Some ladies are active on the boards (here or local boards) and for them I may let them know I have read their reviews and their web page and that they are exactly what I am looking for. That is about as explicit as I get. Therefor I have never had a problem confirming the donation rate for an hour or two.
I am still somewhat of a newbie, but I really don't worry about the money very much... not that I am rich, it is just not worth the sweat, If there is conflicting amounts, I will go with either her website, or I just pick one. I put it in the envelope, but I carry the rest in my wallet. I have yet to meet a provider (now keep in mind I am a newbie 4 providers in all) that has counted the money before hand. after the fact, the go to the bathroom where the envelope is and when they come back out I ask it all is ok, so far never a problem. Once I establish myself and they remember me, then I can ask, something like is everything still the same. It's my system and it works for me.... just my 2 cents
Good for you dermont109. I simply refer rate inquiries back to my website if they ask. My rates remain the same so there is never any confusion. I will not mention money over the phone or via email.
Basically if a gent has read my site there is no need for any questions. If they do ask for whatever reason, the reply is always the same..."Take a moment and re-read my website, thank you".
I can't remember the last time I had to answer a question...I have great clients.
This is a good discussion. I see so many "Specials" listed... but I don't have computer access through out the day to check for the latest. I've not dealt with this yet, but plan to ask if the $YYY special for 1 hour is correct. In my view it should be handled in advance. I always have my donation separate in my pocket, ready to place on the dresser discretely when dressing. Discussing donations would be a real mood killer for me.
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