Question: in terms of safety, if you see a provider, and then they are later picked up for some reason by law enforcement, is it possible for le to get texts off their cell phone and later come after you?
The likelihood of that happening is the real question to worry about. Some areas & regions will see LE going after the clients either just as much, or more than the providers and/or attempting to arrest anyone they can from info gained via a previous arrest. What they really seem to want to do is to get a person just arrested to flip on others, be it clients or other providers.
In my area (Chicago) they don't typically target the customers anywhere near as often as the providers themselves. But they have had stings targeting the customers.. which is what I would expect: setting up a fake provider and then have the customers show up one after the other for the duration of the sting.
If, by going through a provider's phone, they realize they can easily get some guys too... well sure, it could happen. But from what I personally have seen/read, that situation is far less likely than the aforementioned type.
Just stick with well-reviewed ladies and be very wary if any of them contact you out of the blue for a "special deal", trying to lure you in. That could be legit, but unless you're very familiar with the lady in question, be alert and cautious.
HTH
http://www.cnet.com/news/how-apple-and-google-help-police-bypass-iphone-android-lock-screens/
If the phone's owner routinely deletes the text history then it would require LE to take another step (more paperwork) to demand text history from the network service provider. Granted, not a huge obstacle.
They could decide to assign investigators to track you, your contact patterns, and movements to see if you break patterns (metadata) to reach out to someone on their watch list, and then catch you together - but they still have to prove something illegal was happening. They can lie to you but they can't lie on a warrant; so keep your mouth shut and ask to speak with your attorney. Link below is to a post of mine (not an attorney) on the Legal Board about these interactions.
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=22301&boardID=25&page=#22301
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Providers are people with regular lives.
Unless you are an idiot and your texts link the exchange of monetary value with services, it would take an enormous effort for any LE to create a trail of crumbs and come after you.
The first thing they would need is her statement that the transaction took place. That is far more important than any text.
So, are you important enough for them to expend that kind of effort?
However, I seriously doubt LE is going to go to such great lengths to bag one guilty guy. It's just not cost effective. Most of the time, when LE wants to get a bunch of guys, they set up a sting with a policewoman as the 'bait', and lure the johns to the sting room. Just having some texts in your phone is not reason enough to arrest you, assuming no mention of money for any kind of sexual activity is mentioned.
LLAP,
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Isn't going to take a case with flimsy evidence. The police aren't going to take it to him/her.
A text/email even agreeing to sex for money, and her admitting that the encounter happened probably isn't enough to get a conviction in most cases. A good lawyer would have a field day with it. They would claim that the provider was coerced to give that testimony. They would point out, that.. well.. shes a "hooker". Implying that hookers lie... None of that is or has to be true.
The ADA wouldn't even try.
As pointed out, its easier and more cost effective to move forward with it. Run the ad, bust some johns and pretend that they are making a difference.
This is one of the reasons why you should use a prepaid phone. That you paid cash for. That you only use for this. You should have a throwaway email. That probably shouldn't be google, aol or any of the major ones. You should change that email address and companies occasionally. Simple steps to protect yourself.
It always goes back to, see well reviewed ladies like Debbie and you are very unlikely to ever have an issue
Such a scenario would be highly unlikely. It would be a time consuming process for LE with no chance of a successful prosecution. The text messages, however detailed, and your cell phone number are not evidence or proof of a crime. They don't even prove that you actually met. If you are not actually caught in the act or through a sting of some sort, you need not worry.
In any event, you should not be using your everyday cell phone to set up these appointments anyway. Either get the Hushed app with a burner number and text or a separate burner phone from Walmart.
OTOH, that might not stop them from going on a "fishing expedition" or stop them from trying to bluff you into "confessing" or otherwise implicating yourself or others.
My first word of advice is not to worry about them ever coming after you this way, my second word is that if they ever try, remember the burden of proof is on them, you have the right (and obligation to yourself) to STFU, and don't let them bully you into doing anything against your own self interest.
if the texts (or emails) are explicit in sex for money, if they can prove it was you on the phone, it might be admissible (in those few jurisdictions). It would be solicitation but it does not prove you met. It's really unwise to be explicit in any communications, even voice which might be recorded. And correct above does not prove the solicitation occured in their jurisdiction. In rare jurisdictions explicit ads can be viewed as solicitation...
In most jurisdictions, the communication needs to be face to face (the other person turns out to be undercover LEO) and it is how most stings are conducted. There's no question about it, very efficient use of manpower.
Exception: look at the Zumba case. Provider illegally taped the incidents & kept detailed records. What was she thinking? These records were in fact used to prosecute her and a long list of clients who were identifiable.
Exception: a high value target (political figure) where suspicious funds transfers were traced (suspecting drug transactions) but turned out to be a provider.
he may be able to help" . That's it! In over 40 years I've never received that call. I've performed my due diligence, enjoyed each encounter, and never concerned myself about the "what if" problem. Remember, the "what if" problem is the only problem you can't solve.
She was quoting rates. The even more amazing thing is she was also a practicing Attorney. Talk about screwing your clients.
If you think this is a late April fools joke, Google Nikki from Dekalb. Takes you to another site, I'm not sure I can mention the name, but it's pretty easy to follow.
Been some clean up on google. Abovethelaw.com has the story. Page two of the Google search.
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