Vets, gambler if you're there, any advice on the taboo policy of "haggling price?"  Do we read the plain English on the ads stating, "rates are non-negotiable" and follow instruction?  I know of course several hobbyists do anyway, and I'm sure a lot f providers blacklist those gents, and some other providers may negotiate.  Any thoughts?

If you don't care that you could be put on a DNS list or blacklisted by providers due to haggling price, and that you might not be able to see some providers you'd like to see, go ahead.  You might save some money now and then and that might in your mind make up for the DNSes, blacklists, and providers who will never see you.

Some providers are very clear that talking about rates in any way over text messages will result in an immediate end to the conversation and maybe blacklisting. So if you're going to negotiate, don't do it over text messages.  

I don't negotiate published rates from providers.  If the rate is more than I want to pay, I don't contact that provider.  The only times I have "negotiated" was when there was no published rate for the type of date I wanted, eg a weekend.  But even in those cases it wasn't much of a negotiation.  I started the "negotiation" by asking the provider to tell me what she thought was fair, and in each case I thought it was a reasonable, fair rate so that was that.

Ladies are offering "fire sales." For instance, 6 hours for $750. It doesn't hurt to ask. If the lady isn't willing to budge, that's OK too.

Try this. Mention something like "ISO of a provider who's available for $$$. Watch the PM's pour in.

The worst experiences I ever had back in the day was haggling price before playing. It completely ruins the mood IMO.

I like to speak up if don't mind.

 
Asking for a discount even published rates should never get you add to a non personal blacklist. That is not a danger or threat. Ask nicely and accept results. Asking may get you a reply, maybe yes, maybe no. Asking also may get put on her personal DNS list and ignored.  

 
I get asked for discount often, and when they ask i simply say none. lots of time its a reverse issue. If i do not give a discount do I risk getting put on HIS personal no see list,. Its ok with me, its the chance I take. It should be the chance you take.  

 
Some providers will discount. That is fact. Some will not and that is fact also. Some will get offended and that is written in these forums,  but I don't know if its fact. Talk is cheap. This business just as much communication as it is anything else. Communicate honestly and reasonably and you should do nothing more than get on her personal DNS list.  

 
Best to try watch for girls that running specials and take advantage of that. Also i would suggest you ask in eMail not text. I can't say how other providers feel but text to me is seems more urgent that eMail. If I get asked by text i answer straight "no thank you" . Text to me makes me feel like i need answer right now this moment. If they ask by eMail i feel i can take my time, answer within a few hours and write a polite response that has "mp thank you" at the end.

 
Other providers may feel very different than what I say.

 
Just my thoughts

Can you post video/audio?  I remember when we last spoke you were busy with classes.  Would love to hear your voice 😀

Pay,

Thank you its evolving process. I think everyday its little better since its my full time communication with everyone except when with family. But I have long was to go. My accent still very harsh and it confuses some people some time. Written has no accent so much easier.

Sorry no I am not ready to post video or my voice, i am too shy for that.

Christine

Personally, I almost never negotiate with providers in this country, but I don't subscribe to the mindset that "negotiating is disrespectful"  I just find that considering I rarely book anything other than one hour appointments with providers, negotiating is unlikely to save me more than $50-100 at the most and it's simply not worth the effort to me, AND of course you run the risk of souring your experience with the girl before it even starts.

 
That said, if you are booking high dollar, multi hour sessions, I honestly don't see any harm in floating out a "trial balloon" to see if there is any wiggle room in the rate if you think it's more than you want to afford. I do this all the time with Sugar Babies where EVERYTHING is negotiated, but like I said I almost never book anything other than single hour appointments with providers.

 
The thing about negotiating if you choose to do so is to choose your words carefully, a lot of guys are very ham handed where it comes to negotiating and they come off as cheap hagglers,. what ever you do, do NOT start off the conversation by telling her she is not "worth" her stated rate, that's a way to end up on a lot of DNS lists very quickly. I'll put it to you this way, if I have to tell you the proper way to negotiate, you probably aren't tactful enough at it to be doing it anyhow.  Some people can negotiate anything and not be seen as rude or cheap, other people can't negotiate the price of a used car without coming across as rude or boorish.

 
I don't know if I actually answered your question/s, but those are my thoughts on the subject.

Thanks a million, if I get into any trouble I'll just tell her You put me up to it, lol...

Negotiating is loaded with nuance and subtlety, as well as being very good at conveying these concepts in text to a stranger, a skill set no newbie I have ever seen/met possesses.  

 
It is a mine field with numerous hazards that is best left to people who are very experienced in p4p in general and who have negotiated many times in other business adventures as well. It is very much a learned craft.

 
And yes, not only is it possible, but it happens in U.S. TER style escorting dozens, if not hundreds of times per day, imo.

 
Some girls have to know you are looking out for their interests as well as yours (i.e. the "win/win" scenario), some girls imply on their websites they may negotiate while others come right out and say they will, although the latter is very rare.

I try and keep my rates fairly reasonable although some times I get guy asking why I don't have an hour rate! They get radio silence from me back. And for me. I will sometimes offer "incentives"  in my ds.

Steph XO

comes off wrong...  You must ask her rate at some time...  for X hour(s) of her time, if it's not advertized.  ASking about Specials comes across better...  but be certain you are talking about the same time interval.