I went to an outcall appointment the other day with an agency provider for the first time - the other times I've done this, they've been independent. It was a normal 2 call system. When I got up to the room, the provider was just getting back in from dinner, and had a guy with her. I stood and waited while he got some things from the room and left, didn't say a word.

When he left, I said to her that it was pretty awkward, and she told me it's fine, it's just a guy who hangs around to look after her. When I left, he was in a lobby area of the hotel on that floor, didn't say a word, and went back towards the room. I could tell he was at the hotel the whole time, but wasn't just sitting in the lobby (not being specific, don't want to make it obvious who I'm talking about or where this was).

What I'm wondering is whether this is typical at all. It's an agency that has only a few women, mostly all regular (this particular girl is almost always on their schedule), and they're all pretty much well reviewed. Is it usual for there to be some kind of bodyguard type of dude around, or is this agency operating as a front for a pimp? The agency itself isn't listed on TER, but plenty of the girls are, with extensive histories.

OUTcall is when the girl comes to you.

Now as for the situation with the guy, whether that is usual or not, no it isnt. A lot of ladies have someone looking after them or at a minimum knowing where they are (driver, family member, friend). Even independant ladies, will do that. But it is rarely so visible. Could be a pimp. Could be an SO. Personally I would not feel comfortable if that happened.

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Yeah, I derped on that, it was incall.

I'm relatively new, so I didn't know that someone being in such close proximity would be normal. I know about providers usually having someone know where they are, but didn't realize they were that close sometimes.

It was really uncomfortable, for sure. I can't imagine him being there at that time was intentional, she probably thought I wasn't going to get to the room so quickly. He was pretty much in and out of the room in a minute, like he already knew what he was getting.

Worse than that, its highly unprofessional. She should have had that guy out of that room before she gave you the room number to come up.  

My only guess is that she possibly had an issue recently and she wanted you to know someone else knew you were with her. But there are much better ways to handle that, like making a phone call to someone to let them know you have arrived and all is well.  

There is a school of thought that believes a guy is less likely act hostile to a lady if he knows for certain a third party knows he is there. I happen to agree with that assessment, althought there are never any guarantees.  

If she was wigged out about a recent security issue, she should have cancelled, imo. Whatever the reason the guy was in that room when you got there, you would have had every right to bail out on that session had you so chose.

and is just calling attention to her by him hanging around the hotel. It was completely inappropriate for her to have this guy in the room when it was time for your appt. I am really surprised you did not walk away based on that alone. Could have easily turned into a ROB.

No it is not typical to have a guy hanging around and in her room when you get there. Now I do know of an agency that works in several states that says they keep guards outside of a hotel, or that is at least what they had told me (when trying to get me to work for them a few years ago). I am going to assume that is a rare thing as I had never heard of the such.

Most gals have someone know where they are at all times (such as what I do) and some even have drivers. My experience is that guys are very uncomfortable with any other person around but for him and the gal (ie don't like drivers)  

Regardless of whether it was a pimp or SO, she should have never had anyone there when you came and she had plenty of time to get rid of him with that 2 call system.

I actually got there before she was even in the room. She was in the hall with the guy when I was walking up.

The two call itself wasn't with her directly, it was with the operator of the agency. She didn't know how long I was waiting (she actually asked at one point), but from hearing his voice down the hall, it was a different guy than the one at the agency.

Kinda responded above, but it wasn't 2 call with her directly, it was with the agency. She didn't know how long I was waiting, and it wasn't that guy I talked to at the agency. It was actually about 10 minutes, since I got there 10 early, and she was just getting in the room at the time the appointment was supposed to be.

Arrive RIGHT on time. This isn't like a regular business where you can arrive 10 minutes early.  

ONe does need to plan for traffic & weather delays...  I got burned by a deluge that closed the highway & made driving immpossible.  I do arrive 10-15 minutes early, locate the callpoint THEN withdraw to the corner coffee shop, paying attention to how long it would take to return.  I return right on time.  I often leave an iced tea in my car for the drive home!  LOL!!  
She should not give you the room number early, nor should you go up early if given it by mistake.  You should not hang around the lobby or parking lot.  (No sitting in your car reading a newspaper or drinking coffee is not discreet!)  It looks suspicious & draws attention of LE & hotel security.  I was in my way into a meeting...  got the hairy eyeball from a cop in a black & white.  I told her when I got to the room & she said the hotel had requested more patrols to combat thefts from customer's autos.  The cop just happened to be going by on the hour.  
I firmly believe a lot of hotels KNOW that prostitution is going on...  but they like the income.  So long as it is discreet.

at the call point no earlier than a few minutes before the appointment time.  If the booker is not sure if the girl is ready for you, he/she should not have given out the room number.  Once the girl says she is ready, then you should be given the room number (via callback) and then proceed to the room.  The guy should be no where in sight.

Question--how did you know the guy was not the person you spoke with previously at the agency?  I sure hope you didn't have a conversation with him.  If you say you were waiting either inside or outside the room, then you were wrong.  If you saw the guy by her door, you should have walked right passed the room and down (or up) the steps at the end of the hallway to another floor, waited a few minutes and circled back to the room.

I sat in a nearby lot, not the one at the hotel. I didn't realize until later, but the one at the hotel wouldn't have been bad either - it's a dark automated parking deck, and my car lends itself to a person blending into the dark.

As I turned the corner towards the room, she wasn't able to find the key to the room in her pocketbook. He said something like "here, I've got the other one" and opened the door, so I heard his voice. That made it clear it wasn't another guy from an earlier meeting, it's someone who knows her. His voice was not the same as the one on the phone. I didn't talk to him at all, just heard him from a 2-3 rooms down the hall.

As I was got a bit closer, she said "room #######?". I nodded. At that point, he was getting in the room, and she invited me in when I got close. He was getting his stuff, and I stood next to the door inside the room until he left. I was still on the paranoid side, so when I hopped in the shower I kept my pants w/ all my stuff in the bathroom, then brought them out next to the bed.

I wasn't so worried about there being a problem with him in the moment, between the agency, her reviews (there's a lot of them, recent and dating back a while), and the pile of reviews for the other providers with this agency. Almost every review for one of these girls mentions the (probably fake) name of guy who runs it. If something happened, I couldn't imagine it being anything beyond a first-and-only time type of occurrence.  

Like I said in another post, the calls aren't with the provider directly, it's with the guy who runs it. I can imagine it happening where she's turning in to the hotel, but tells the guy who runs it that she's there, and that message getting to me too quickly being the reason for this whole thing. I know how many times I've been in the car with someone who says "we're pulling in now" when we're actually five minutes away.

THANK you! The reasons for this are endless. Calling or showing up early IMO creates pressure when I really prefer to be relaxed and prepared for your arrival. We can do a LOT in those 10 minutes like freshening up, putting on the stockings you asked for, brushing our hair, teeth, or most importantly the "mental prep" as I refer to it.  

A gentleman did spook me once doing this, after he called early (my fault for answering, I do not practice that any longer) I told him I do need the 15 minutes, you're early...I will call you back in 10 minutes. He rings back in less than one minute and says "I'm here, I can see the mailman putting mail in the box at XXOO anywhere Street. Can you say CREEPY?!  

Yes, I've screened you, Mr. Early Client. I've checked your references thoroughly, but simple directions can't be followed, we've never met and I do not like what I am hearing. I spent time and resources making sure you are safe for me to see but your actions have just scared me away. While I am very urban in location I would still rather not have a neighbor notice someone just sitting in their car for 10 minutes, common sense. Please be discreet!

I LOVE when my visitors ring me right on time, and they almost always do. Your etiquette and consideration for my time are so appreciated, and always rewarded

I am still puzzled by that clients actions (I did tell him to please go away) but I will say I learned a great lesson in not answering my phone early and being more specific about my location even just 15 minutes early. I understand that you need a general close-proximity to plan travel and I provide that the day before-but nothing further until its "time"

In many cases I am coming from work and haven't been at my IC long before you, I personally need those minutes. I DO watch the clock BEFORE our appointed time, and not during.  

A prepared, relaxed lady is who you want to see. Please don't rush her, she is busy just like you.

2:00 for example means 2:00. It's not the dentists office where you may get in early if you arrive early.

so you went to a hotel with rooms on the OUTSIDE? that's your first mistake. unless it was a nice Residence Inn Marriot, hotels with outbound doors are seedy and only used by low end providers. now we get to the meat of the matter. you were not in the hallway indoors, but outside!

I've been to an Embassy Suites that had rooms that were accessed from outside, and it was a very nice hotel. These places do exist--more typically in warmer climates.  

While you are generally correct about outside facing rooms being a no-no or only being used by lower end ladies, this guy never said anything about outside facing rooms. In fact he said he heard the guys voice from "two to three doors down the hall," and he also mentioned he saw the guy in the lobby when he left.

Also even though he said he didn`t want to out the lady or the agency in his first post, he has given enough further information in other posts that I have a feeling I know what agency he is talking about, and if I am correct, they are far from a low end agency

said he PARKED in the hotel lot, not that he was inside. I think he is a troll either way.

No, you just made a bad assumption. We were indoors, but the hall isn't straight - there's a corner that it turns.

I parked in the hotel parking deck, walked out of the parking deck, walked into the indoor lobby, and took the indoor elevator up to the right floor. Once I got there, I exited the elevator, then I looked at the sign to see which way the room was, turned in the correct direction, and walked down the hall. Once I got to the corner in the hall, I turned it as well, and then I saw the guy and the provider. There's 4 doors between the corner and the room she was in. Queue the rest of the story.

Do you need me to be more specific about every detail, or are you going to be an asshole for the sake of being an asshole? I was asking a legitimate question in my first post, and I realized along the way (on every post other than yours) there were details that weren't clear in the first post that affect the way people thought about this whole situation, or how they think I should have reacted.

I don't care whether you think I'm a troll (as long as others take me seriously, I do want advice), but if this is the way you treat everyone on these boards who expresses a dissenting opinion (i.e. about client screening), you can go fuck yourself - I'm not interested in dealing with aliases used for harassing other users you don't agree with.

It's indoors. It's a high end hotel - 4 or 5 stars for the chain. That probably gives you an idea of the agency, but I don't think you know them since you aren't from my area - it's somewhere in the continental states. They aren't low end by a longshot.

I don't want to out anyone if this is normal, for sure, which is the main reason I started under an alias. I might add it to a review if it's highly abnormal, though.

no your first post was NOT clear, and the parking thing in the last one led me to believe it was a hotel with doors on the outside which is why I reponded the way I did. If that is not the case, book more carefully in the future. i have NEVER ran into a provider's friend, pimp, or boyfriend in all the time doing this.

now it's obvious what your handle is, and now what your alias is. you just busted yourself!

LOL. Just because I am not from your area, does not mean I might not have an idea who you are talking about. I may live n the middle of the pacific but I am familiar with some other areas of the country. Anyway, I am just saying you had good intentions in not outing them and using an alias in yoru first post, but the more info you add to follow up posts, you could be outing them. Still definitely not normal, but perhaps instead of putting it in a review, you might communicate the issue with the agency owner. (and check your PM)