1.  This probably won't work out for scheduling reasons and that so many clients are sperm of the moment, if you catch my drift.

2. I'd be interested in that, but not all are.  Some gals seem to make it work and the number of gals with two hour minimums seems to be rising.

3.  This is another thing some gals do, but schedule conflicts are always going to occur, and then there is the whole issue of depending upon another person.  I wouldn't do it without knowing the person pretty well.

4.  That's a pretty bitter pill, but consider is as a last resort.

I usually don't have a problem going to a provider's home as long as it is in a decent neighborhood and it is an apartment where you can maintain some privacy from neighbors.

I wouldn't start cutting back services and lowering prices.  That smacks too much of the a la carte method instead of the all inclusive one which most guys prefer.

I made a thread thats on page 2 right now about asking for deposits witch i see was a bad idea now leads me to wonder what is the best way to handle being on a limited budget while new ?  

1) starting off only being available one day a week and not booking a room until i have 3-4 guys willing to see me on that day then possibly opening myself to work more days until i can justify renting my own incall place    

2) Having a 2 hour minimum for appointments and having my rates somewhere in between $300-$400 for the two hours  
 
3) possibly teaming up with another provider/mentor and renting space in her location per appointment until i can justify renting my own incall place  

this leads me to another side question what makes hobbyist comfortable or uncomfortable with multiple providers at a location?  

4) Lowering the rates and doing out call until i can justify getting my own place  (160 -200 an hour )

how comfortable are clients with coming into providers homes and how professional is it considered if shes the only one living there and has one room for personal use and one for hosting in?  I'm heavily considering moving and getting a two room unit because my main line of work is XXX web chat room host making fetish clips and phone sex and and using one room to work in and room for personal use .  

Some addition notes to consider  
- My service is FBSM nude and mutual play no limits  
- I'm a professionally trained massage therapist

EDIT -- some just gave me another idea lower the price and limit the service cut the price in half and take away the mutual touching are most FBSM fully clothed or does the provider wear lingerie.

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so you would rather pay more to get more right off the bat then try her out at a discounted rate with limited services? should i offer both or no

The going rate for what you are talking about is about $100, not $200.  Yes, that is nude (or at least topless), yes that is with a LMT, yes, that is with mutual touching, yes, that is with a handjob too.   Maybe a dozen people told you this a week ago, it has been discussed ad-nauseum already.

That means that nobody is going to pay $300-400 for a 2 hour long massage either.  2 hour long massages are an impossible thing to sell anyway, they run too long.  

If you want to offer fully clothed massages now for half the price (which I assume you mean $100), that means now your competition for the same service is going to be a place like the local Massage Envy which is in any strip mall, and what do they charge, $50 or something?  You would still be charging double the going rate.  

If you advertise for $100 and then say "oh by the way, this is fully clothed" then you upsell your customers by wanting another $100 to take it off, and then you don't ever provide sex anyway, you will only get terrible reviews, guaranteed, and by terrible, I mean people will say in the reviews that you are a total rip off, and they will advise other VIP members to never go see you.  That is exactly what will happen if you "a la carte" your services for the prices you are talking about.  

I see one gal for a 2 hour massage with HE for about $300 plus tip.

The massage is excellent and she has been doing this for a while at an MP.

Of course I'm around Boston and other parts of the country could be less.

To me, I'm just getting into a massage after an hour.  I'd go 3-4 hours if the gal was willing.

I agree with mrfisher.

I'm a fan of fbsm.  A good massage makes my hair trigger that much more sensitive....really revs me up.  If the massage is good and multiple HJ or Russian releases are on the table...I'd pop for 2+ hour sessions (and have before).  Some of my favorite sessions have been this exact sort of thing.  As for price point...that is a geography thing.  I've been places that charge 100/hr and others that charge 250/hr do thee services.  You'll have to figure that out relative to similar offerings in your area.  

The "from the home" thing might be a little sketchy for me personally...but...that's also because I don't have a frame of reference for it.  I'm wary of anything "new" until I fully research it.  

I offer body rubs with Male G-Spot/Prostate Care & am not a CMT.  My rate has always been 300hr, and 450-90min

There are plenty of gents who do not desire FS.  Everyone's needs are different.

Offering a discount to whitelisted, or verified members may help you here.

 
If your hot & provide excellent service you will get repeat clients.  Keep in mind the more menu options maybe the more $ you will get.  DATY, DFK, body to body, FIV, etc.

Massage Envy $50 for the first one maybe ... After that its about $90 an hour  

Again its based on demographics yes but here $250 -300+ an hour easy and multiple hours as well

In my area, RI & Ma area within commuting distance of Providence...  a FBSM w/ HE (HJ) is about 100 hr.  In a couple of cases, longer time paid was not useful.  Ended up with the same massage but cost more.  The gal might not start nude but goes at least topless & allows & encourages naughty touching on the front massage.  The best will move to give good access & seem to enjoy the attention in their direction.  

One gal, now retired, offered FBSM.  Sometimes started nude, other times ditched the cover up mid session.  A LMT, she maintained a business license & her premises had legal fire alarms, exits signage, etc.  She also offered assisted showers after (both in) or bath (Just client in) which was fun & naughty but speaking for myself, I was spent by that time & no hanky-panky was remotely possible.  She had a parking spot labeled for her business.    

One Fav gal FBSM, former LMT, (not TER reviewed, no qualifying ads) went this way on the first appointment.  On subsequent appointments an extended menu was available...  teasing, CBJ, FS.  She clearly expected a good tip for the extras but would never state a rate for services...  old school, no LE stings!)  Met at her residence.  She had a legal 'by appointment' business & a parking spot assigned to that business.  Neighbors thought her office work clients were the traffic...  she was low volume.      

One FBSM gal, TER reviewed, had a ground floor apartment...  one street parked nearly & walked in after calling.  She gave a nice massage, dropped her top when the flip occurred.  Touching was limited to above the waist.  I went a couple of times but found better.    

It might be possible to get longer appointments but some special service like NERU would be needed to use the full time.    

This is my experiences.  I will answer more questions if I can with out compromising their safety.

Hi again, looks like you are making some good decisions. I haven't noticed where you are located, so I am going to use Minnesota as a guide in figuring out what the rates are for the services offered.

"1) starting off only being available one day a week and not booking a room until i have 3-4 guys willing to see me on that day then possibly opening myself to work more days until i can justify renting my own incall place"    

Not too bad idea to start with, but with check in times, this limits your time in the room. You will have trouble seeing more than a couple of guys and a "no show" that you are concerned about, eliminates the profitability here. Another idea is book a nice room through priceline or orbitz etc for three days. Afternoon/Evening of day one you can easily see two/three men. You then have a full day on day two for morning guys, lunchtime hobbyists and afternoon and evening guys. Day three might be a nothing day unless you find someone who is an early AM person.

Under this plan, even with 3 hours or so between "dates" you could see up to 9 clients at $150.00 per hour, that's $1350.00 deduct for the hotel, meals and even a no show or two and you still should net at least $750.00. This would be the minimum of course, but if you want to get $200 an hour, you better open up the menu a bit, kissing with tongue and CBJ would be an absolute minimum along with the "happy ending".
 
"2) Having a 2 hour minimum for appointments and having my rates somewhere in between $300-$400 for the two hours"

Forget it, this will dramatically reduce interested guys. IN GENERAL men looking for a "rub and tug" don't need two hours to get there, and if they are locked into $3-$400 they are going to look for full service, or a VERY expanded menu. If you want this kind of money you can offer an "upgrade" and/or offer FS. Try to regulate the customer LESS than more, you are competing for his money. The more you tell a customer "you must" or "you can't", the more HE WON'T come back.
 
"3) possibly teaming up with another provider/mentor and renting space in her location per appointment until i can justify renting my own incall place"  

This could work to see how much interest there is in your service. Could be a real win/win situation.
 
"this leads me to another side question what makes hobbyist comfortable or uncomfortable with multiple providers at a location?"  

Not the BEST idea, but it wouldn't bother me as long as she was not intrusive. This could also open up some "upgrade" opportunities if the both of you wanted to work together.
 
"4) Lowering the rates and doing out call until i can justify getting my own place  (160 -200 an hour )"

This could work. Not sure how many guys who want a massage want to provide the place though. I have always gone to their place, usually a small office type space.
 
"how comfortable are clients with coming into providers homes and how professional is it considered if shes the only one living there and has one room for personal use and one for hosting in?  I'm heavily considering moving and getting a two room unit because my main line of work is XXX web chat room host making fetish clips and phone sex and and using one room to work in and room for personal use ."  

Some would say NEVER work out of your house. One goof ball who knows where you live could end up being a big problem. I do not have a problem going to a providers house if it is clean and properly "set up".
 
"Some addition notes to consider  
- My service is FBSM nude and mutual play no limits"  

What does "no limits" mean? Minimum, provide HJ happy ending. If you want to go for those higher rates, add DFK and CBJ, higher yet BBBJ and CIM.  

"- I'm a professionally trained massage therapist"

That's all fine and good, but (sorry) few really care! At the money you are looking to earn the men want to have a great orgasm. A great massage is nice, but many of the guys are not going to wait through a "real" massage, they will be looking to "flip" and get the fun started.
 
"EDIT -- some just gave me another idea lower the price and limit the service cut the price in half and take away the mutual touching are most FBSM fully clothed or does the provider wear lingerie."  

You have stated in the past that you are BBW. I don't mind a bigger gal, but MANY here do. This last option frankly looks stupid. You need to make the session FOR THE CUSTOMER. Very few men are going to pay ANYTHING for a regular massage from a fully clothed woman. If you want to do this, start a legitimate/legal massage business, find a chiropractor with an extra room and rent it from him/her and forget the sex stuff and the bigger paydays, but you would be legit.  

Your posts have been consistent in wanting to make good money. The less you offer the less you can charge and the less clients you will have, and the harder you will work, try giving 5 or 6 good deep tissue massages a day, your hands and arms are going to be killing you, and after rent, you aren't going to be making a lot.  

Get a VIP if you don't have one. READ the reviews of the ladies that are going to be your competition. There are some VERY attractive women doing this, the ones that get the good reviews and the business, are the ones who provide MORE services not LESS. In my area $140.00/160.00 will get a basic (poor) massage and a nice happy ending I have been offered FS (not GFE) for as low as $200.00 with a very HOT massage gal.

Good luck in whatever you choose to do. If business turns out to be really good you can ALWAYS raise your rates once you have become established.

The more options you have the better.

Once you have a few reviews guys will know what to expect and make their decisions before contacting you.