i have a quick question.

when you go to an AMP, first you pay mamasan at the door then change and undress. if you leave your stuff in the locker and go to your room naked, except for a towel, where do you keep the $$ to tip the girl for extras?!

btw. if the girl doesn't initiate the discussion about the extras, what's the polite way to tell her i want more?

Perhaps I am a trusting soul, I leave it in my pants and have
not ever been ripped off. (probably 100 visits, oh dear I could
have retired instead of dropping my load!) I have been in places
like the place in Jessup that seemed quite seedy and I was a bit
afraid of leaving it, but I did and it was OK. Actually had a good time. Anyway if the girl doesn't bring it up (not likely)
Try going for the goods and if she doesn't stop you she will
either ask for dough or tell you no dice. In which case you will
have to settle for Rosy Palmer. Also do not bring in more than
you intend to spend. It will keep you from overspending and if
something does happen, you will have something left.

That's a good question.

I used to hit the parlors in Philly about once every week.  (yes, I was addicted)  I only found myself putting stuff in the locker the very first time I went, because I was new there and didn't know the deal.  I was afraid of someone stealing things from me the whole time, so the second time I went, I told her that I didn't need to use the locker.  Her response?  "Okay, come this way please."   I don't want to spend 40 min getting a massage only to find out that she doesn't do anything more.  If I just want a massage, I'll ask for just a massage and pay for just that, but when I want more I prefer to get out in the open and known right away.   It gives her time to either refuse or to adjust herself mentally that she's going to do real work for the next 60 minutes.  "Hey, what about undercovers?"  I'm clearly not an expert, but it's not a very probable that'll ever happen so I don't worry much about that.

Afterall they're not dumb, they know what the deal is, the manager knows why you're there and the girls know why they're there.  All the other stuff is look legit, which they are, of course.

After that second time I just knew to go back to the room, they didn't even offer me a locker after that.  And then when I went to other places they could tell from my eyes (or whatever) that I didn't need to use a locker.  

As for asking for more, I'm pretty blunt with it and just ask politely.  If the girl didn't get the nod from the manager that I'm okay she'll stick to the are you a cop script or whatever she's been asked to memorize but after rubbing her thigh, or getting her to rub mine, or getting undressed or giving her a deep french kiss (most LE wouldn't do that) they sense I'm okay, and within minutes we're both having fun.  

The LA places suck.  They're only open till 10pm, you can't pick your girls and the per hour charge for use of the space is way over priced.  ($100 for 60 min!!!!  Insane, unless I'm just out of touch.  In Philly (yeah it's Philly, but come on) it was $40 for the hour and just $100 for the "tip")

I don't know where you're from but here are some tips for you to think about or toss aside.    

-  If you can pick your own girl, NEVER pick the "Super Hot Chick".  9.9 times out of 10 she's a major bitch who's gonna go into hyperdrive in cowgirl and get you out of there in 20 min or less.  Why? cuz she's a bitch who knows she's hot and has almost every guy choosing her every day.  Instead, look for the not so hot girl, maybe her face is a little jacked or she has a little meat on her bones, but she's usually the hidden treasure.  She's the one most bonehead guys will ignore, so she's desperate for cash.  She's willing to do almost anything to make you happy because just like Chris Rock said in his bit, the money is on the come-back.  Besides, she's going to be happy that "She" got picked over the Parlor Princess.  And if you come back and ask for her, she makes money and the manager will keep her around.   You'll get the BBBJ, you may get anal, you'll french kiss her and if she likes you enough and if you have a brain dead moment (moments, days, weeks...) she'll take you bare and let you complete in her.  (Of course one day she'll vanish on you,leaving  you wondering for the rest of your life what happened to her... ahem)    Long story short, she'll be your best bang because the hot chick doesn't have to do anything... she's the cute Korean with the implants, every American's fantasy, when she takes her bikini off if you're not half way ready to pop then you should've popped already.   She dosn't want to work, she doesn't want to touch you and she'll do the least amount of work possible to get you off because once you cum - you're done.   So look for the diamond in the rough, she may not be your wet dream, but she's not going to be a pig becuase the manager won't make any cash if she's totally ugly.

- SKIP the sauna/steam room.   Why?  Well why bother?   Why spend 10-20 min of your 60 min sweating alone in a room or even worse with some other dude.  It's for the first timers - the suckers.  It's used to eat up time so that the girl can give you a shower, then a massage and, "opps.. only 5 minutes left, you want more?  Yes? That be hundred dollat?  But you hurry, okay?  Okay."  No, not okay.  Think about it - $100 for a rushed 5 to 10 minutes, yeah maybe you only need two, but if that's not what you want, don't do it.

- DO accept the table shower.   Now this is tricky... cuz you're being washed with a loufa (sp) that's been used on other people... but maybe it's not that bad, maybe... I hope... Please.    Oh God please!!!  Yes that is a thought, but if you do let her wash you, she'll do a good job and make sure that all the fun parts are clean.   Ask her to use a new bar of soap or to use liquid soap.  If you ask to wash yourself, invite her in with you.  Talk with her, if she speaks English well enough, or have her help you reach some of those dark places.

- DO learn how to give a good massage.  Why?  Keep reading.

- DO learn how to give good oral.  Why?  Keep reading.

- DO offer the massuse a masasge.   Why?  Once again, why not?  How many other lunk heads have offered her one?   She's human and she probably likes massages.  Her neck and shoulders are going to hurt, so massage them.  Her arms and fingers probably hurt, so massage them.  Her back and ass are probably under stress too, so massage them.   Same with her legs, and her toes... massage them.     Know how to do it well, and you can do it efficently.  Because at some point you're going to need to massage her inner thigh and that's when you begin to vibrate your hand.  You may even need to use your mouth to help reach those delcate folds of skin that are strangely getting moist.  Wow, she's rocking her hips and breathing hard...  Pretty soon she's so well rested, relaxed and melting in your hands because most of the lunkheads that have come in just grab her and use her.  But something is different with you.  Does this take some time, yeah, a little, but it beats sitting in a sauna, doing absolutly nothing.    When it's time to get to work, she'll usually appreciate your kindness and make sure you have a good time.

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-  If the place is open 24 hours a day, think about going early in the morning  yeah, they'll be tired and exhausted and you won't be able to have the girls lined up, but whoever is on call or if you know some one there to ask for, they'll be more receptive to pampering and less reserved.  The manager will often (often but not always) be asleep or will fall back to sleep SOMETIMES giving you more time with your girl.   If you get done early, you may even enjoy having her snuggle up with you to take a quick cat nap.   "But I don't want to wake up early," you may retort.  Well, neither does anyone else, so that means its just you there, with a girl who's now more open to moan and grunt becuase there are no other customers there.   And you won't have to wait in a waiting room where other customers may see you.  And since there are no other guys there, she won't have to rush you and won't have to hold back to save herself for the other guys who are in the other rooms and in the waiting rooms.   Now even though she may be tired, she can take her time esp. if she's enjoying a nice massage.



Ok, that's about all I can think of right now.   Once again, this usually worked for me.  Not all the time but most of the time.   I'ms sure service and rules differ in every city.  The Koreans in Philly were pretty laid back, but here in LA they're very uptight and more business like which is not fun for me.

Once again, if the provider is giving you lip or spits out a bunch or rules or give you the feeling she's gonna halfstep it, ask the manager for a new provider or simply ask the manager for your money back and decide if you want to ask her when a more accomodating provider will be working or just leave and find a new place.

Good luck to ya.

Never tell the manager what you really want.  

All the haggling is done with the provider in the room.

And don't forget, treat the providers well.

Breeder has some great thoughts and ideas.

Check out this previous message
http://theeroticreview.com/msgBoard/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=45046&boardID=12

I've never been to a place where we didn't come back to the room my clothes were in, but I always pay up front.  When you have been through this several times you pretty much know the going rate.  So you just hand it over up front.  That saves stopping for negotiations, getting and handling money when you don't really want to stop.  It kinda assumes you are happy with who you are with.  For me it's about $160-180 total.  $160 for an unknown, $180 for a provider you have seen and liked.  

It can make them seem a little special to dig in your pockets for the extra $20.

Hi,

Thank you very much for the prompt and helpful replies. I will put them to good use. This was my (embarrasing) story:

went to a place call spadium in korea town in ny (32nd and broadway). after paying for basic service, was led to dressing room and asked to change. they provided robes and weird boxers. didn't take the boxers, just the robe. was led to a rooom. when the girl showed up. told me to take off the robe and lie down. when i took off the robe, she saw my privates and freaked out! didn't speak english, so dunno what she was saying. made me lay on my stomach and covered me with a sheet. massage was alright, but through the sheet! no touching the skin at all. after she was done, i asked if that's all? "don't people ask for more?" she pretended to not to understand what i said and i left ;(

that was a year ago, i wasn't going to try again until i found this site.  (oh, i'm clean and decent looking - so that wasn't the problem)

everybody goes there once... its a place for Korean businessmen... no sex, no way...  NYC is notoriously bad in the AMP scene... even West Garden, the most reliable place in town, never offers anything but HJs, never ever. Our "real" amps are seedy nasty places with second rate babes on a good day and forth raters on a bad one.

Reuuuude.. you went to Spadium ?

Thanks for the input. I wasn't looking for sex, just some R&T.

Reuuuude.. you went to Spadium ?

I guess it all depends on what city you are in. LA and San Fran,
you get little or nothing. Philly, almost anything. And DC, most
places you can get anything you want. In DC most of the time they
wont even ask for the money up front. But YMMV on all of this.