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No black clients... What?!
santana2163 5 Reviews 1844 reads
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So I have been eyeing a certain provider that was close to my area for a while and once I was able to get the required donation, I gave her a call. I call and ask her is she available, only for her to say " Yes... wait, are you black? I don't do black guys. Sorry"... what? Sorry my a**. Now I completely understand that whoever the provider is willing to see is up to her, but she never said in her ads "no black guys" (which I see often) only "nice gentlemen". Talk about a slap in the face. Other then being racist, can somebody give me a reason as to why certain providers don't see black guys? I never came across a provider writing "No white guys. Sorry"... just wondering

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who do not see black guys.  Each has her own reason.

Yes, there are providers who write "No white guys".

Yes, there are white providers who write "Blacks only".

Yes, there are providers who "I don't see men under 35."

Yes, there are providers who "I don't see men over 55."

Yeah, I know its not the same but it still makes us feel like crap when it happens.

It sucks but it does happen.  IMHO, if she does not want to see certain clients, whether it be because of age, color, or whatever reason, she should have that info in her ads or on her website.  It wyuld have saved you the trouble.

Like previous post, there are a host of reasons why providers will not see certrain guys.  Only this one knows why.  Yeah, some are probably racist, but others may have different reasons, whatever they may be.

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Posted By: santana2163
So I have been eyeing a certain provider that was close to my area for a while and once I was able to get the required donation, I gave her a call. I call and ask her is she available, only for her to say " Yes... wait, are you black? I don't do black guys. Sorry"... what? Sorry my a**. Now I completely understand that whoever the provider is willing to see is up to her, but she never said in her ads "no black guys" (which I see often) only "nice gentlemen". Talk about a slap in the face. Other then being racist, can somebody give me a reason as to why certain providers don't see black guys? I never came across a provider writing "No white guys. Sorry"... just wondering

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dwarrw2213642 reads

Santana, for the record I am white. I have seen some ladies, very few to be honest, that have said they wont see a man of a certain race. When I met with one in session, a white girl, and she spoke to me open and honestly, she told me she was sexually abused when she was younger by an African-American man. Now would it be fair for someone not to see you for a traumatic event they had when they were younger simply due to your race? No, it probably wouldnt be fair, but to be honest, it made perfect sense to me when she said it. Thats not to excuse every case, for I am sure most cases are not like the one I described. I am sure racism is the answer for some. But I am also sure racism is not the reason for every lady who doesnt want to see a man of a specific race. That being said, I am sure it was very frustrating to get that response. Hang in there.

It has even been some African American girls that have said that.  If you want to know why the best thing to do would be to nicely ask them.  There may be a legitimate reason, or it might not be.  You will not know until you ask.  

Some girls like older guys, some like younger.  For race it may be preferance, or some other reason.  As long as you are nice and respectful when you ask them they may tell you.

Yes, this is one of the reasons I heard from 2 ladies some years back, & because they were raped by an African American, they were scared to death of ALL African Americans. Other reasons... many of the younger one's bring narcotics & alcohol, along w/short $... they overstay their time.. Pimps will pretend they are a client, only to show up & physically assault & rob the lady.... they are married/dating an African American in their persona life & do not want to "blur the lines"... the list goes on & on, & every lady that does not see AA will have her own reason. Just move on, there are many other fish in the sea:)

Posted By: dgunn32
Santana, for the record I am white. I have seen some ladies, very few to be honest, that have said they wont see a man of a certain race. When I met with one in session, a white girl, and she spoke to me open and honestly, she told me she was sexually abused when she was younger by an African-American man. Now would it be fair for someone not to see you for a traumatic event they had when they were younger simply due to your race? No, it probably wouldnt be fair, but to be honest, it made perfect sense to me when she said it. Thats not to excuse every case, for I am sure most cases are not like the one I described. I am sure racism is the answer for some. But I am also sure racism is not the reason for every lady who doesnt want to see a man of a specific race. That being said, I am sure it was very frustrating to get that response. Hang in there.

Thanks for the insight man. The most frustrating part to me was that the provider was of ethnic mix (asian and latina), but didn't want to deal with blacks... which didn't make sense to me

Of course this is racism - it's making a decision based solely on a person's race, rather than on any individual merits.  Does't matter if the person involved doesn't like the term "racist."  Unless someone can give a different definition of the term?

see them in the hobby...not all out racism in that case now it it? More like control from the BF.

AliasISsoCool452 reads

Some rich white dudes that can pay 300$ per hour only want to see the girls that schedule rich and well-educated/professional guys. If these white guys hear that the provider sees black guys, they automatically assume that the girl is a BP quality and won't repeat or pay the premium price.
It is not fair, but it is also true that many rude and ghetto clients tend to be black

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FYI...  In a lot of areas of the U.S. there is a severe lack of venues where - would you call them "high class" providers can advertise services when visiting.  BP is the only game in town in these areas.

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FYI...  In a lot of areas of the U.S. there is a severe lack of venues where - would you call them "high class" providers can advertise services when visiting.  BP is the only game in town in these areas.

Exactly, and the guy you responded too showed his prejudice (more or less) by saying that black people aren't professional or well educated.

In the end, it is up to the provider to agree or to decline to see a client for whatever the reason. That being said, there is an appropriate and respectful way to go about it. I am very picky with who I see because I wan't both my clients and myself to enjoy our time together. This should not imply that any one thing will be a definite no for me because that is not how I operate. However, I do feel the woman is the one offering a service and she is within her right to see who she feels is appropriate.

If you are more worried about your feelings being hurt than certain providers losing business, I can see why you are confused. Many men who pay big bucks do not want their precious white angels seeing the "Black Man" lol. If a girl has to choose what clients to lose and she has more white men who are vocal about such things, who do you think she is going to do away with?

It is not always about racism, but about the bottom line here. I have had 4 black men in 5 years even contact me who were willing to both pay my rate and be small enough for me to handle. The Asian race pays most of my bills to be quite honest.

I'm sorry, but I think this is one of the dumbest responses I have seen on here. Why should I be worried about her "losing" business if I was supplying it. So it's not racist to say "I don't do black men" it's business and I shouldn't be confused? Even though she's multiethnic and doesn't mention her disqualifier in her ad? That's bull

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I do see black guys but it all depends on several factors:

1. I am black.  I also provide in my home town.  To keep a low profile and to keep from being outed I try to stay away from clients who are from the same background as me.

2. Black men = dick too big + excess stamina:  I'm trying to get paid not have my pussy swole up or back beat out.

3. Haggling: all it takes is for one bad apple to spoil the bunch.  If I made a chart brothas would account for 95% of the hagglers.

Posted By: santana2163
So I have been eyeing a certain provider that was close to my area for a while and once I was able to get the required donation, I gave her a call. I call and ask her is she available, only for her to say " Yes... wait, are you black? I don't do black guys. Sorry"... what? Sorry my a**. Now I completely understand that whoever the provider is willing to see is up to her, but she never said in her ads "no black guys" (which I see often) only "nice gentlemen". Talk about a slap in the face. Other then being racist, can somebody give me a reason as to why certain providers don't see black guys? I never came across a provider writing "No white guys. Sorry"... just wondering

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I just flat out ask em if they are packing more than six inches...pass. People say not to stereotype but sorry, most black men are hung and I have never seen an Asian guy who was packing....EVER, and that is mostly my entire client base.

I think you have gotten a good cross section of reasons in the replies so far.

Are some ladies racist?  Probably.  They are people, and some people are racist.

But to broad brush say all who have a "no Blacks" policy are racisit is every bit as wrong a generalization.  I have no data, but I would guess Black ladies have a greater tendency to say "no Blacks", especially if they primarilly work locally.  Just as Aris said.

Another consistent theme I have heard from both white, black, (and other ladies) on forums like this is that there is a greater chance that black thugs will try to see ladies who advertise on TER and such sites.  White thugs exist just as well, but for some reason(s) I don't understand a lot of ladies tell me those undesierables tend to look for ladies on BP etc.  Right or wrong, that is what a number of them believe and so they act accordingly.

Finally--and this is much more personal--a number of ladies have had a bad experience with some men.  They then generalize and try to make themselves safer by avoiding that broad class.  This is a difficult business to really find out about an individual because of all the privacy issues, and some ladies respond by basing their decision on observable features.  It isn't even that they believe "all men in that group are bad", it may be far more subtle.  I know ladies who will not see asian men, or Indian/Pakistani men because they had bad experiences with them--not necessarilly in this business.  One lady was married to a Pakistani and he turned out to be a controlling, abusive husband.  She left and devorced him, but to this day (a decade later) she cannot comfortably have sex with a Pakistani man.  She tenses up and performs poorly--all her bland reviews were from Pakistanis and she acknowledgers they were probably accurate.  So she now does not see Pakistanis or Indians because she knows she cannot provide good service.

I agree "no Blacks" is the most common disqualifier, but there are also many, many "no one under 30" kind of comments for similar reasons.  I have seen "no over 50"s, "no Whites", etc., though I admit less often.

I was on the phone last night with a friend who was traveling.  She spent 2 days in a city.  Day one she saw 3 men, all wonderful she said.  Day two she had three appointments, three NC/NSs.  All Italians.  She was very frustrated and told me she will now have a "no Italians" caveat when she visits that city.  Is it smart financially?  Is it fair to thousands of other guys there?  I can't say, but after spending about $500 to extend her stay and change her flight so she could stay the second, I can understand her point of view.

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