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shudaknownbetter 784 reads
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FH should be less than HH.  If she's running HHs, she's a high volume...  you'll probably pass the last guy in the hall.  HH's are NOT disceet.  High volume attracts attention of Hotel Security & LE.  
This hobby is all about being discreet.
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MrRita2071 reads

Okay, interesting situation from a newcomer to the hobby.  There is a provider that I've found that I find very attractive and want to see.  She has no reviews, on any site, so that of course can be a problem.  I'm "pretty good" with a computer and did some investigating on my own to see what I could find out about her.  I managed to discover her real identity, and pretty much everything you could want to know about her.

Basically, I feel pretty comfortable that she is not LE herself.  Many of her friends are providers (all unreviewed as well) and she is pretty young.  

While I hadn't quelled all of my concerns, I called her up the other day ready to make an appointment.  I had her HH rate but wanted to know what she charged for a FH as I am a guy who likes to have the extra time.  She quoted me an hourly rate almost 3 times what her HH rate is.  I clarified the rate, uncertain if I had heard her correctly and I had.  She then tells me that it won't take that long anyway!  I couldn't believe it!  It makes me think that she just likes to get to it and get it over with rather than taking the time to get to know and establish relationships with her clients.  Maybe she's just really bad at math or really new herself.  Who knows, but something just didn't seem right.

Now that you have the background, let's move on to the question / discussion portion:

(1) Does the fact that she is not herself LE make me safe, or do they sometimes use real providers in stings?  She does not lead the type of lifestyle the lends itself well to LE.  Also, she uses her personal cell for her business number, and that doesn't seem very LE to me.

(2) Even if she is not LE, I am concerned about the comment she made about it "not taking that long, anyway" and was really confused and turned off by her hourly rate.  I figure I can negotiate the rate, but I'm still concerned what the deal is.  I suppose she could still be a C&D.

(3) I feel like I need to tell her (and two of her friends) how to better protect themselves and their identities, in case the next person who searches them out isn't just trying to make sure they aren't LE.  I respect these lady's right to be safe.  I've wondered too how a provider would take it if at the end of the session someone said "oh, by the way, you haven't been careful... I know who you are".  They may not react well and I could just be opening up a can of worms on myself.  It may be better to just call or email them.

Any thoughts?

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trex44895 reads

...and slip away into the night, never to think of her again. Too many red flags in the scenario you've described, with no good outcomes should you get involved with her. There are too many lovely ladies without the high-risk considerations or the potential for life-altering drama.

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mrfisher714 reads

If you go into the hospital and ask the doctor what it will cost if you're there for a week, and he says don't worry, you won't last that long anyways; I'd see a new doctor.

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MrRita568 reads

This is hilarious... and such a good point!  Thanks MrFisher for a good laugh.

Posted By: mrfisher
If you go into the hospital and ask the doctor what it will cost if you're there for a week, and he says don't worry, you won't last that long anyways; I'd see a new doctor.

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chicagospliff842 reads


That is funny as hell!!

Posted By: mrfisher
If you go into the hospital and ask the doctor what it will cost if you're there for a week, and he says don't worry, you won't last that long anyways; I'd see a new doctor.

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GaGamblerssmarterbrother675 reads

I am willing to bet that even if she agrees to a full hour, she will be out of there the minute you pop, and even if you can last the entire hour, she won't.

It's happened to me where I have told the lady in question that I might very well last the entire hour before finishing. Much more often than not, about twenty minutes into the session she'll tell me "I know you told me that you could last the entire hour, but I didn't believe you" usually follwed by some lame excuse that her pussy hurts. lol

I would definitely move on. lol

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keystonekid765 reads

Agree, move on.  She is a clock watcher at best and maybe a ROB or C & D at the worst.

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Zangari593 reads

It might help if you mentioned where you saw her ad.  My guess is Backpage or something similar, which is high-risk.  But I don't think she's LE, or she would've been more accommodating to an hour long session request.  I'm sure LE would agree to anything that would get you to walk through the door.  It only takes five minutes to recite your Miranda rights & cuff you.  

Nevertheless, your instincts are sound.  The fact that she dismissed an hour long session request by tripling her rate is a bright red flag.  Typically providers who prefer 30 minutes or less are streetwalker class.  You're dealing with rough trade here, with all kinds of nasty possibilities.  One you mentioned is c&d, others include pimp trouble, bait & switch, etc.  When you're dealing with rough trade, your risk goes up exponentially.  I agree with your TER brothers,  don't see her.  But given the effort & research you've poured into this, I suspect you're going to roll the dice anyway.  Be careful.  --z

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casinostocks612 reads

Yes the OP seems to have too much vested in this already and his curiosity for that "young hottie" seems to be at its peak! Personally, the young ones do not do much for me (I'm 45) as my last SO was 15 years younger than me and we were together for 7 years! I got into the Hobby yearning for older cougars (35-40) that were seemingly multi-orgasmic and at or near their sexual prowess. Admittedly, it is hard to beat the visuals that come with the younger ones, in term of their more natural beauty (generally) and the calogen in their tighter skins (again generally) LOL! I have hobby friends in tier 50's who consistently go for the 19-21 YO providers, but when I dabbled with that age group, I found nothing exciting for me and I would suggest that if the OP goes for someone in their teens to low 20's, then he actually saves himself some $$$ and books a short session. The art of "wine & dine" plus quality time and conversation is really not what these young ones are into. Some of them will eventually get there as they refine and get more mature in life, but for now, don't make yourself look silly. Let someone else pay for that "growing up" pain ;)

-- Modified on 12/8/2010 12:14:53 PM

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MrRita634 reads

I really was 50/50 on going through with it, hence the reason for the post.  The more and more I think about it and read your comments, the risk really is too great.  (Really I'm just not going to see her to prove Zangari wrong... lol).

No one has given any thoughts as to whether I should let her know that she needs to be more careful.  I'll admit that part of it was wanting to be her "knight / protector", which doesn't much matter now that I probably am not going to see her.  But also, I feel some sort of obligation to at least let her know and how she can fix it... for her safety.

And yes... the ad was on BackPage.

Thanks for your comments gents!

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mjp1966516 reads

It's up to you to let her know, but if it were me -- and I know this sounds cold -- I wouldn't.  If she takes it the wrong way, there'll be drama, and that's the last thing you need.  IMHO, just put it out of your mind and move on; she'll either learn the hard way, or her luck will continue to hold out, but either way, it's not something you really need to be involved with (for your own safety, really).

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alex_hamilton527 reads

I second The Cyclist's Motion, do the right thing . . . and get on Santa's nice list.  If you are on his naughty list all he will give you is coal and switches.  The switches may come in handy, but these days coal is just worthless.    

Furthermore, and more seriously, it sounds like this girl and her friends are clueless, probably smokin hot, but clueless, and therefore maybe they could benefit from the providers newbie manual here on TER. I'm just sayin.

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shudaknownbetter785 reads

FH should be less than HH.  If she's running HHs, she's a high volume...  you'll probably pass the last guy in the hall.  HH's are NOT disceet.  High volume attracts attention of Hotel Security & LE.  
This hobby is all about being discreet.
skb

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TheCyclist1085 reads

tell her how to fix her online personality. I would just send an anonymous message.

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