Preface: I am a 55 year old man that needs to get out of a 3 years slump. (uggh). After thinking I wanted a relationship I joined match.com but got nowhere. I decided what I needed for my psyche was just to get laid! I joined adultfriendfinder and adultxxxdate sites. Got nowhere, maybe because I inundated by fake bios. So, I decided....what's the best way to get what I needed no-muss-nofuss. Escorts! I earn a meager pay, so if I'm gonna do it, I need to know a couple hints.
QUESTION: LEO: What is the way to ask someone (either on a site like Plenty Of Fish, or an escort if they are an LEO! I don't want my first experience in getting an escort to find me ending up in the pen just because I needed what all men need? Thanks in advance for answering this first question!
You have to avoid getting in the room with them in the first place. You do that by getting a VIP membership here, you ONLY see well reviewed women, with lots of reviews, whose reviewers have lots of reviews as well. Other things that cut down your risk is her being a member of p411 and/or DateCheck, her having her own website, her having a lengthy online board prescence of posting, pm'ing a number of her guys, and seeing her on an outcall basis if you are really LE phobic. Still no guarantees but this would bring your risk down into the being struck by lightning category, imo. Good luck.
Thanks for the initial help bluepillman! It gives me a place to start. Yes! I am thinking on the VIP membership very much. I don't make enough $$$ to afford services much more than a couple times a year. Have never done this before, but I sorely need it. Thanks again for the hints!
Allow me to echo everything that the bluepillman said and more: one of the more common fallacies it that law enforcement must give it up if you ask if they are cops. If ya think about about that for oh, a nanosecond or two, you realize that makes no sense, if that were the case, there would be NO undercover. Cops can lie their asses off (and frequently do) and not only is it not a problem, it can be seen as good police work.
As BPM has noted, the best way to avoid interacting with them in the first place. Know this: all vice in any large city are very familiar with this and all of the other sites. The problem for them is there are very few of them compared to the number of people engaged in this "hobby."
All this is to reinforce the use of this site and a little common sense. I never see a girl with less than 5 reviews, with at least one of them from a reviewer who has 5 or more reviews himself. This is also one of the reason (the other being is that I just like 'em!) I tend to gravitate to the porn chicks: if I call Claire Dames, I'm pretty confident that when the door opens and she's standing there, I'm not dealing with LE. I have been on this site for 10 years now and have never had any issues with this.
The other reason to get the VIP is that you can also get a pretty good idea of what you're getting. Obviously, each individual review should be taken with a grain of salt but it's been my experience that the more reviews a girl has with consistently favorable comments, the more likely it is that what's been described is in the ballpark of what I perceive as objective reality.
Bottom line: VIP is worth it's weight in gold here: If it helps you avoid a bust, that's a minimum of a 10 to 1 bargain! Knowledge is power, my friend!
You need VIP to read all the really necessary info about the provider. You should also read the self help center. It contains much important information for you. When you decide to take the plunge, do your research on the provider, i e, reviews, website, pics, phone. You have to be as careful in your research as she does in her screening.
As far as LEO is concerned, once you are in the room with them, you are toast. They can, and will say anything to get you. Your best bet is to just STFU. My suggestion is to stay away from young ones that look too good to be true, because they probably are just that. As you have been told already, look for well-reviewed providers, with reviews from established reviewers. P411 allows their providers to indicate on their profiles whether they are newbie friendly or not. Look for those ladies.
Thanks Swim. Haven't read all articles yet. But, have browsed a lot of girls and did the google thing and research. Found out a lot already to be wary, so again, I thank you and anyone else that helps me out. Most likely gonna join VIP before I make any initial Swim (sorry...pun) into the unchartered waters. I may even contact a senior member on a certain girl before I take the plunge. Your knowledge is most appreciated.
Thanks corwin...In just one day, I'm learning a lot from you and others who have taken me under their wing. I am going VIP before contacting any of these providers. Thanks again!
I received the same advice - get VIP. Do your research. See only well reviewed ladies ( for me that was at least 10!), written by established reviewers, join Perf411 so that potential companions can easily screen you. You'll undoubtedly be nervous the first time ( as I was!) but that slowly dissipates as you become more experienced and more confident. But still - never let your guard down! You should also feel free to PM some of the reviewers of a lady that you're interested in to learn more about her. A few responses from people with experience who have seen her will also go a long way to reassure you. Good luck
But first... P411 is pricey for someone who has money issues and a meager hobby budget. Date-check is free for initial basic membership, but requires that you already have some reviews. Most reputable independent providers will require some form of provider reference (although some will take you if you are willing to give up significant personal & work information, so that they can protect themselves). You have to decide if you are willing to do that. If they are reputable, you really don't have that much to worry about. One thing I suggest in finding the "right" provider - don't JUST read reviews, but also see if she posts on her local boards and has a good presence there, that's a girl who is more likely to treat you well.
A way to start getting references is to see a girl from a reputable agency, again check the boards and the reviews in your area... they often (not always) have a little gentler screening, and if you go out of your way to make a "gentlemanly" impression on the girl, the agency owner and possibly the girl as well will give you a reference.
Here's the advice that probably no one else will give you: while approaching a p4p date, ALWAYS assume that 1) you are going to get arrested, 2) you are going to contract a venereal disease, or 3) the girl is going to be a ripoff artist, cash-and-dash, or simply not look anywhere near as good as her pictures.
YIKES! Why the hell would you want to assume those things?
So that you will be prepared for them. What will you do and say if the cops bust in? Do you have a lawyer, who will you call to bail you out, what will you say to the cops to minimize your legal problem?
Where will you go to get tested should you suspect VD, who will you tell, how will you hide it (if necessary)?
How will you handle a girl who is trying to rip you off? For instance, if she doesn't look as good as her pictures, do you have the balls to just walk away or will you crawl into the room like a sheep and pay her even though she essentially lied to you? If she tries to run with your money, will you tackle her, or just chalk up the loss to experience?
These are all questions you should ask yourself, and research the best answers as well.
If you get TER VIP and carefully check your girl first, the chances you will have to face any of these bad outcomes is slim to none - but wouldn't you rather be prepared?
The suggestion of ladies that frequently post on boards is not accurate IMHO,most are flaming the Ego's of old time guys that return the favor(no offense Clarence).In many cases you will find them over 40 ,one regular on my board is closer to 70 than 65 and yes I HAVE seen her license! Another top 5 poster is bbw. Now to each his own and you may choose that route(many do), JUST KNOW ...that you will be obligated to give them a certain rating or you will be castrated by this very tight knit group. I find that the suggestion of seeking top reviewers insight to be a better idea.Especially if they have TOFTT on many occasions , as they understand value and are more apt to try and help a fellow hobbyist.Most of these guys have regulars and UTR ladies that are not hung up on the time constraints that many top posters & agency ladies are. Fake pics are not always a deal breaker..(would you put your pic on the net?) On the rip off question.ALWAYS ALWAYS walk and no heated disagreements.Chalk it up to the cost of "doing this thing", you have a whole lot more to lose and many are desperate people that use drugs to cope ( yes some are in the top 100) and know that I have 2 pages of reviews that I will never post due to the obligated situation. I'm not wishing any grief on anyone!This is just ONE guy sharing his knowledge
but you should re-read my post. I'm not talking about choosing a lady just because she posts here on TER. I CLEARLY said to use reviews first to choose a woman (thereby getting someone of the age, size, looks, etc that you want) and THEN check to see if she posts on general or local boards. Reading what she has to say can help to show if she has a brain and a sense of humor. I ALSO submit that a lady who has an active TER board presence will be someone who is likely (not guaranteed) to do what she says she will do and to try to provide a good experience because she respects the power of the reviews.
As to the suggestion that most providers who frequent discussion boards are over 40, well it just isn't true - nor does it matter to me (at any rate, you'll find that out when you read the review). And so what if a top 5 poster is a bbw? If you are not interested in a bbw, then don't call her. Many men don't mind, and many more are very interested. Once again, that will be discovered in the review.
My only points about women who participate on the boards are that they 1) are likely to care about the service they provide and 2) give us some insight into their personality when we are choosing a date.
While you may disagree , this is my experience in the ATL.I see that you also TOFTT regularly and you have my respect sir! I would like to apologize if I offended you in any way! The op was asking about safest & low dollar way to see quality ladies ...I just was sharing my experience.
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