I always ask via e-mail after the date is done because I want to make sure the date goes swimmingly, and I always try to give them a heads up when I do use them as ref, in case they need a reminder. And yes sure you connect with some ladies, I'll admit to having done that, but at the end of the day business is still business. Heck some girls have even given me as a reference to another provider about me being a good client. Since they know if they did a good enough job your gonna be coming back and they're not always gonna be in the area all the time. Also it helps the girls too, due to the clandestine nature of the hobby it's an invaluable, resource to the ladies so they know they are dealing with a gentleman and not just some schmuck and actually helps if you ever want to do a double with the both of them provided they are both comfortable with the idea.
Hi. I'm a repeat hobbiest through one agency (which I plan to continue using), after a long history of using one massage place.
(1) Long Term Contacts
I really felt like I connected with some providers via the agency, but I realized that they all (?) seem to rotate through pretty rapidly. So I have cell phone numbers from these girls who are now 1-2 hours away. Is that normal? If so, am I likely to get the agency angry with me for dealing directly with girls (who are either no longer referred to by the agency, or who, I guess, could leave OC at any time anyway?
(2) Asking a girl/agency to be a reference
I don't feel comfortable asking someone who I planned to return to to be a reference for someone else. Seems like I'm rejecting them. That's probablynsilly/crazy, but I couldn't help but wonder how providers interact with each other along such lines. How many minutes (or more) per day does a typical provider spend returning reference check calls from financial competitors? I felt lucky when the agency scheduled me even though I didnt have exact names and numbers of other providers. Rather, I just gave the cross streets of the MP I'd been to 20 times and said that the manager there recognized me by face as the regular Wed customer who was last there three weeks earlier. I didn't even know the name of the girl I usually saw there because the manager always sent me to the same one, so it wasn't like I ever had to ask for her by name. Before I could even text the exact name and phone number of the place, the agency started to schedule me, so I doubt if the agency even tried to contact the MP. So I guess merely confidently describing past providers is useful when seeing new providers for the first time. Still, I'm wondering if I should try to get a hold of past providers in order to ask them to give me their contact info in order for me to share (as references) with their competitors.
Any advice?
Thank
If the girls gave yo their phone numbers, I am sure they will be fine with a phone call or text from you.
Providers are really good about giving a reference to a fellow provider about a hobbyist. We don't mind sharing : )
The agency does not have to know.
XXOO
Nothing wrong with asking.
I apologize in advance for the thread hijack, but this seems topical. What's the rule of thumb on number of encounters before a provider would be comfortable giving a reference? Seems kind of presumptuous after one date, but two? Six? Thanks.
at least with the provider giving the reference lol. I only require ONE visit to provide a reference, as most do. I tend to mention that when giving a ref, but there is no need to see a woman 5 times before you can get a reference. When I give an ok on P411, it means I have MET the person, not an indication of how many times we have met.
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as London said, some will be a ref for you, some will not. The one thing you must do is ask her before using her name as a reference. Surprise calls from other providers about a reference would probably not be appreciated.
Swim
When I visit with a gentleman, I always let him know, that he may list me as a reference. I simply tell him, "While I have very much enjoyed our time together, and would love to see you again, I know a few gentleman prefer to visit with a variety of ladies. Should you wish to visit with another lady, please know that you may list me as a reference".
Hugs and Kisses,
Kelly
Yep, I do the same thing though not as wordy lol. I just say, "Let me know if you need a reference to see someone in the future."
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Look at it this way yes there are some ladies you will connect with but it is all in fun. Sometimes there will be a mutual physical attraction chemistry thing going on between you. And dude it's fucking awesome so I can see where it would be a little awkward if you're new to ask for a reference. But ya gotta remember there is no exclusivity in this hobby, I've had a couple occasions where dates went over by a few hours off the clock and dude it can feel almost real. If ya need a reality check all ya gotta do is read a review or 2 after yours. Not saying you're having this kind of problem just friendly advice. It can be hard to get the comparisons between this and real world dating out of you're head. But I've never had problems getting references. If you feel awkward do it via email, or join P411 and ask for provider oks, then the lady you're thinking of seeing can see who you've seen and contact them if she chooses. Actually if you are as nice a guy as you seem it will help you tremendously if they do talk, if a few reputable respected ladies say you're a nice well mannered, clean honest guy then a new lady will be more comfortable from the start. Trust me they talk, I've only been doing this a few months but from the intel I've gathered my reputation as such has helped me a lot.
I always ask via e-mail after the date is done because I want to make sure the date goes swimmingly, and I always try to give them a heads up when I do use them as ref, in case they need a reminder. And yes sure you connect with some ladies, I'll admit to having done that, but at the end of the day business is still business. Heck some girls have even given me as a reference to another provider about me being a good client. Since they know if they did a good enough job your gonna be coming back and they're not always gonna be in the area all the time. Also it helps the girls too, due to the clandestine nature of the hobby it's an invaluable, resource to the ladies so they know they are dealing with a gentleman and not just some schmuck and actually helps if you ever want to do a double with the both of them provided they are both comfortable with the idea.
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