I'm a newbie with a hopefully not too stupid question. I've read some posts that talk about going to a provider who has many reviews and that you're "rolling the dice" if you go to a provider with maybe one or no reviews at all.  So is that implying that the provider may be LE? Isn't that entrapment? If that's the case, and I go to an incall location and they bust down the door, can't I just say what I see  mentioned so many times in ads that "the $$$ paid is for the person's time only and that any thing else that may occur between two consenting adults," etc., etc. ??? Any thoughts, comments, musings or sarcastic mocking?

LE wouldn't "bust down the door" unless they've got you taped offering the undercover LE payment for sexual services.  This is why you should lay the donation down and not mention it.

This is an excellent question. Many years ago as a beach life gaurd we worked directly with the LAPD.  They will lie and cheat to get you arrested. Many of them have an enormous need for power and totally believe that the arrest is as gratifying as sex.

When they are not trying to arrest some one or respond to an emergency they are very nice guys. Once they go into official duty, they turn into madmen.  That is not all of them but more than 50% who I worked with. Judges side with the cops using the expression, "why should they lie?".  So, take the extra step and pay the higher dollar and only use TER women with high ratings.

robodude

Which in essence means nothing.  You don't just casually lay down an envelope containing hundreds of dollars in a room with somebody you hardly know.  No judge is going to be stupid enough to believe the "I never offered any money" defense.

"You don't just casually lay down an envelope of hundreds of dollars..."  While common sense says your statement to be true, the burden of proof is still on the prosecution.  If I've not been video or audio taped, then they can't even prove that it was my money.  Without the burden of proof being completely eliminated with either audio or video tape, no judge is going to be stupid enough to even let the case get tried!

so cops have been arresting people for prostitution for a long time also. Anything is possible if you have a lot of money for a good lawyer--but you'll still get arrested, booked, spend a night in jail and spend a lot of $$ on the lawyer trying to get out of it.

In the situation this post brings up, it doesn't matter if there is audio or video.  The scenario involved the lady in question working WITH (or being a member of) LE.  In place of audio/video, there is a live witness.  BUSTED.

What if you were there for a massage?

I'm aware of that!!  But if I don't SAY ANYTHING or GIVE her the money then she has witnessed NOTHING!

Come on now, let's talk about life in the REAL world here.  You are there, she is there, and she is either LE or working for them.  You lay down this fat envelope full of cash, then the two of you proceed to do the nasty.  Face it, everybody involved in the arrest and prosecution knows the score.  You don't have to SAY ANYTHING or GIVE her the money to be found guilty here.  Judges/juries aren't stupid.

I think this is why most agencies say do not discuss rates with girls. Scenario, U go in with LE and lay evelope down. I don't think the LE will actually go through with the sexual act to bust u -- wouldn't that make her guilty. She starts asking questions like "What's in the evelope?" "What do u want to do?" Isn't it time to leave without saying anything?

Don't be naive.  LE could have sex with you then bust you if they so desired.  When it comes down to the court case, who do you think the judge will believe?  LE, likely with numerous citations of do-good acts, or the john caught in the act?

Bike,
You're looking for extremes here to support your stand.  Most LE aren't willing to have sex with a john in order to bust him.  Yes, it's happened I'm sure.  But we're not naive.  LE would try to get you to specify what's in the envelope and what it's for.  If you give them an answer they're looking for, you're busted.  If you pick up the envelope, stick it back in your pocket and walk out the door, you're not likely gonna get busted.  And if you do, then the only way you'll get convicted is if the LE flat out lies in court (again, I'm sure it's happened).  Don't underestimate your chances of getting the court to side with you vs. the LE in a trial.  Many a cop has been made to look like a complete dumbass when crossed by a sharp atty (I know of which I speak, and no, I'm not a cop).  And worse, when a cop is dirty and knows it he may fear being crossed and agree to dropping the charges to avoid facing a shark lawyer in trial.

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you live in where LE are so polite as to ask what the money in an envelope is for. In my neck of the woods, they basically cuff you, yell at you and generally scare the living shit out of you so that you admit to something. Walking out the door is not an option that they offer.

I live in NC.*  You should come here sometime.

*HOME OF THE 2005 NCAA CHAMPION UNC TAR HEELS!!!

P.S.--How is today's loss sitting with the "Big Blue Nation" of Kentucky?

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