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It's one thing to verify a client
joleneineugene 1078 reads
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it's quite another to ask about the clientele. If you go to see a lawyer, do you ask how many others he represents? Probably not. You already know he's seeing other clients. Is the lawyer going to tell you how many? No, because that would be a breach of confidence. Likewise the provider; we're paid to be discreet. You can be confident that both the lawyer and the provider see other people. How many is no one else's business.

Now, if you want to put either the lawyer or the provider on an exclusive retainer, that's something else again.

sunshine874043 reads

How many clients, on average, does the typical provider see per day?

Do you usually get enough clients to make a living, and have you had to turn clients down because you have too many?

Hobbyists, have you ever been turned down by a client because she was already booked?

I seldom have that problem because I book at least a week or more ahead.

yes.  Low volume providers that are good at what they do can get booked up in a hurry.  I usually try to schedule a week or more ahead of time but sometimes last minute opportunities occur and I will have a plan B and C so that I can enjoy my opportunity.

spud_mckenzie939 reads

ladies ask every question to "verify" a hobbiest.  Why is it not our business if it is a criteria to determine if we will spend our money on a lady.  why is it that virtually every other question is fair game, but somehow this one is taboo.  Bet it's only the High Volume pro's that are offended to answer.  Would you ask your home builder if they were a custom or tract home builder.

There are a lot of questions that are "off base".  "Do you have kids?", "Are you married?", "Where do you live?"  And these are generally off limits in either direction.

It seems a question is only "their business" if it directly affects the session.  If she's on time, performs well during the time she's with you, doen't rush you, then what does it matter if she's last seen someone else 2 hrs before or 2 months before?

If you think it's fair game to ask "How many clients do you see a day?" is it also OK to ask her  "When's the last time you had sex with your SO and what did the two of you do?"  It seems to be the same question.

it's quite another to ask about the clientele. If you go to see a lawyer, do you ask how many others he represents? Probably not. You already know he's seeing other clients. Is the lawyer going to tell you how many? No, because that would be a breach of confidence. Likewise the provider; we're paid to be discreet. You can be confident that both the lawyer and the provider see other people. How many is no one else's business.

Now, if you want to put either the lawyer or the provider on an exclusive retainer, that's something else again.

This question has been asked before, and got the same answers. Most, if not just about all, providers are not gonna tell you how many they see in a day.

To answer your last question, of course we have been turned down for a date, so just ask for another time if you really want to see her.

Swim

And WHY you were turned down probably has nothing to do with her having another appointment.  Providers are people who have lots of other things going on in their lives.  Sometimes they aren't even busy at all, they just want some piece and quiet, or maybe they just aren't interested in seeing you.  I've been turned down lots of times, but have seen most those women at some future time.

provider and go have a great time.  Plenty of fish in the sea.

Maybe if it's a concern, a better way to phrase the question is, how do you get to lower volume providers?  This is on the assumption that:  their cootchies, lips, and butts aren't chafed, they're looking forward to the company, they don't have another guy's cum in their hair, etc.  It seems to me, as a newbie also, that a girl with a shorter list of clients is going to be better for a lot of reasons.

If this is something you're looking for and it is important to you, there are several ways you can glean the information without asking the straight-up-nearly-sure-to-be-offensive question regarding the number of clients a lady sees on an average day.  

1)  You can check how often reviewed she is.
Understand that not every client writes reviews but if she's racking up 5-10+ per month, chances are she's higher volume than a lady who averages one review a month.

2) Content of reviews.
By reading the full review, you can glean whether or not the interactions tend to last an hour... or a weekend.  It stands to reason that if the dates tend to be longer in length, she likely has fewer of them as having any sort of personal life in the midst of dinner/overnight/weekend dates is much less likely than when the dates are of shorter duration.

3) Rates.
Not a guarantee by any means, but it stands to reason that the lower a lady's rate is - the more accessible she is in terms of the "average" hobbyist being able to afford her.  The chances are that if more gents can afford her time, more gents *will* afford her time.  Also, she likely needs to spend more time working in order to meet whatever her goals are.  Logically (though, again, no guarantee), the higher a lady's rates are, the fewer clients can/do afford her and the fewer gents she needs to see to meet her goals.

4) Rate structure.
Pretty simple in that if she advertises half hours and her standard date length 'menu' ends at 90 min, chances are she tends to run her business in shorter increments and likely needs volume to create profit.  If date lengths start at dinner and go to weekends, chances are the opposite.

From what I have noticed, the ladies who are lower volume often use this as a selling point and do not mind the volume question.  The ladies who tend to take offense... well, I won't speculate on why this is as it implies a judgement of how they choose to run their business or what their demographic offers. Let's just say that for whatever reason, it's considered uncouth to them. ;-)

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Ripped_Van_Winkle869 reads

It was a well thought out answer Edrienne.

And I actually forgot to respond to the OP's question...

I make what I consider a cushy living between this and another job (diversification being a wise concept extends further than just investments).  And yes, I've had to turn down clients due to being booked.  I tend to book out 3-6 weeks routinely as I have limited availability and the gents who are creatures of impulse are generally disappointed. ;-)

It tells you very little and not sure why anyone really cares.

If you count SWs some can see 30+ a day in the right place and right time.

Some providers do this as their primary job, believe in the volume business model and see upwards of 10+ a day.

Others work "full time" but see 10 or so a week based upon their rate/location/other things.

Many work "part time" to suppliment their primary income; some of them might see 5 a month or less.

One very high priced provider I know works about 5 times a YEAR for a week each and it keeps her quite well for the standards she deems important.

I have an "impulse" rate, but I don't DO impulse providing. Because I don't maintain a permanent incall, I need time to arrange one - and then only in the days that I can. Hence, appointments are necessary.

I have a civie job that's nearly full-time now, so I work my providing schedule around that. Most days now it's "outcall only" for me. My energy and enthusiasm levels for this "work" makes it feel like play all the time, but time is the one thing I don't have as much as I'd like to devote to providing, so I am low volume as a result.

Hope that makes sense.

graydon1145 reads

because when I read sunshine's question, I assumed it was written by a newbie provider, or someone considering whether or not to get into "the business".  Then, reading the responses, most the posters assumed sunshine's question was written by a guy.  Sunshine, please do tell.

I agree with E also..but to be honest..as a provider..I may post an ad every 3 or 4 days out the week and have 1 date or if that..so just because you see her post an ad all the time doesnt necessarily mean shes hot down there..I very selective with my clients so I have to post often..but like E said $$$is a big key! *rates higher then the rest*not willing to negiotate*min time is an hour(sometimes) but keep in mind sum of us have 9-5 so a call a week or 2 would do just fine! Also if shes wlling to do gfe so eagerly..WATCH OUT..honestly i feel like if its really a concern u should just ask! it is ur business(if you REALLY trying to date her)just be mindful of how u ask!

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