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Tygerr69 9 Reviews 1861 reads
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I liked to say all your comments and recommendations for a newbie are so helpful and reassuring. I'm about ready to pop the cork, but had a couple of questions.

1.  I noticed on the providers websites that I'm interested in, they want your full name and some your birthdate. Do you really put in your real name? I'm definitely not doing my birthdate.

2.  I joined P411 (per all your great threads). On my profile, I would assume you don't put your picture on there?! Do the lovely ladies look at this for accepting you?

3. I was thinking on my first date to go to lunch or dinner first , then hooking up after the meal. Is this a safer approach relating to LE than getting straight at it. I'm going to use outcall, read here that a static incall has more risk.  Guess being a newbie , a little nervous.

4. What is the "standard 2 call system" I read on VIP reviews?

Again, thanks for all your great posts here for us newbies!

For #1 and #2, use your P411 and request a date through there because she can look at your profile.
#3, from my experience most women don't like to eat before a date, maybe meet for drinks first
#4, 1st call at crossroads and then will give you location. 2nd call from parking lot and will give you room number
Feel free to PM with any other questions.


1. For me, if I ask for the info, you can either provide me with it or move on to the next girl. I have a birthdate space on my contact form and it's mandatory (I prefer to see guys who fall within a certain age range). If you're really that worried about it, just put something close that will still tell her your age. For example, let's say you were born on 02/19/80. You could put under the birthdate space that you were born on 01/25/80. Either way, you recently turned 33.

2. You made a very good choice signing up for P411. I absolutely LOVE when clients are on there. It makes me feel secure and I don't have to spend a bunch of time prying for personal info or tracking down references. Oh, and it's nice when guys put a picture up, but it's certainly not a necessity. In any event, signing up there is seriously the best thing you could have done in my opinion.

3. I've heard of LE doing incalls, outcalls, and even "public place" meetings. You're taking a risk no matter what, but your risk is minimized the most by seeing an established girl with a good reputation.

4. First call tells you in what general area her incall is located, second call she tells you her exact location/room number/apartment number/etc.

1. & 2.  Since you are a P411 member, use that as your ref and find someone thru that site.  But, yes, many guys will give out their real names to a provider, however, it's better to give it to a site like P411 than several providers.  My profile has my pic on it, but I am wearing sunglasses and a hat, but I am single with no one to hide from.

3.  Scrap that idea.  If she is well-reviewed, all you are doing is spending money you do not need to spend, since she is not going to have lunch or dinner with you off the clock, you will pay for her time.  And it is no safer from LE.  Outcall is ok, if you are going to rent a room, but do NOT invite a provider you have not seen several times previously, which you have not.

4.  You've already been told what the 2 call method is.  It's just a safety procedure for the provider.

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1.  Only volunteer what you are comfortable doing, but realize that it may be insufficient to get an appointment.

2.  I never put up a pic on my P411 profile when I had one.

3.  Going to a meal first isn't safer.  If you already discussed pay for play, you are already busted.  Static incalls have more risk, all other things being equal, yes.

4.  Two-call system means you call once to get the general vicinity, usually a street corner or a landmark.  The second call identifies where you are, and then gives you the full/exact address.

Thanks for the great comments and advise so,

1. Contact provider through p411 unless your willing to provide more personal info.

2.  No picture or semi disguised on p411 profile.

3.  Meal or drinks has no matter for safety. Safe the money.

4.  Got the two call system!

From what I can figure you need a couple of references to met the high end ladies. Do they still require personal info or will P411 and  those references suffice?

Again I have found you guys and ladies to be a treasure of info for this virgin newbie. I really want to thank you for all the comments here and other threads.

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Everything is negotiable.  They may be able to find alternate ways of screening you, but again, this might require you to give up some personal information.  References are usually better.

How much personal information would you give? I was going to get a hobby phone per some of the other threads, but I'm single. Is there any reason why you need that other than SO or work (retired here) to find out about your hobby?

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As far as info...that depends on your comfort level.  

If a provider is well-reviewed and appears to be trustworthy, I will sometimes give my personal info.

One other question...if you had a great time, what is the "normal" tip to leave?  I read most lovely providers don't expect it, but lets say your doing $350 hour..what would be normal?  

2. I think I read this before in the threads, but you should not talk about sex or money until your in the room?  Does the provider first mention it? I know to leave the money in open envelope away from door when entering.

Thanks again all!

I never mention money ever. I leave it in the open in a white envelope. Even when i do a review i never mention money or donation period. As far as tips go i rarely leave a tip, it just me, because i don't book one hour dates, but thats just me. But i think the best compliment is when you book another date with them.

If you go up to the top of the board and click on "search," then type in "tipping," or "tips" and set the search date range to say 100 or even 300 instead of the default 30, you will find lots of threads on tips on this board.

Generally what you will find is that some guys tip always, some tip never, some tip sometimes, some bring gifts but dont tip. It is totally up to you. All the reputable girls say,  "Tips are always appreciated but never expected." Many folks say, "The best tip is a repeat visit!" In any case it is totally up to you if you decide to tip based on exceptional service or whatever criteria you decide on.  Because there is no protocol as to whether to tip or not, there is obviously no protocol on a tip amount. However, I would say if you do decide to tip, then you should tip a minimum of 20 and a max of whatever you want, but if you leave the girl a couple bucks or a five or ten, it is probably more of an insult than a tip. :)

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Or don't give one at all.

Better to not give a Christmas bonus than to give a $5 gift certificate, you know?

Got it ! I just didn't want to leave to little to be embarrassed or to much to look like a traveler to a foreign country!  Thanks again for all the comments

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Unless they do something above and beyond the call of duty.  Like giving me extra time, or doing something extra they don't usually do.  Other than that, it's a flat rate.  Of course, tipping is appreciated but it's not really required.

For $350/hour, I think $50 is more than generous.

Don't talk about sex or money at all.  Just hand over the envelope and excuse yourself to the bathroom to freshen up so she can count the money discreetly.

Excellent information! I just don't want to do anything that is not correct. I think I'm going to try to set something up next week. Already excited but nervous, feel like I'm a teenager on their first date. :-) thanks again all for the support. This is a great site and I really don't Think would join the Hobby if it wasn't for the info provided by all!

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