I am surprised that you don't think that at certain price levels, there is far less demand and, therefore, less volume.
I read an interesting post on one of these boards recently by a provider who said that at very high prices ladies cannot see enough people to earn as much as those charging half as much. Based on that sort of thinking, it would seem that very high end have fewer partners.
Would be interesting to hear from a UTR provider on this (which, by definition, I guess won't happen!)
Relatively new around here. I have read many threads and have poured over countless reviews which have made for interesting reading
Having done my initial diligence, I have a question for some of the more experienced gentleman (and ladies too, I suppose)!
I am intrigued at the prospect of meeting some of the ultra high end indy providers that have been reviewed here. By that, I guess I am talking about ladies who start at $1k or so. There are clearly many, many gorgeous, enchanting, enthusiastic, and talented ladies who charge half that amount and I don't pretend to believe that the extra money will mean better personality, looks, etc. My logic (or naivete?) is that at the very high end, these providers are probably not seeing nearly as many gentlemen over the course of a typical week or month. I imagine that for many of them, they might even provide on only a part-time basis because it might be difficult to find a sufficient clientele able to pay the extra dough.
My thought is that these ladies, who have had great reviews written about them, probably see many fewer gentlemen. This has at least two benefits to me (I think). 1) fewer partners has to be a statistically better risk/reward play healthwise, and 2) a less stressful provider schedule might make for better time spent with each hobbyist.
Re: #1) above, I am not delusional about health risks and understand it comes with the territory, is a calculated risk,etc., etc.. With all due respect, I have read many threads, and I don't need a link to a CDC site
I am simply wondering if any other of you gents has considered this thought process and if it has worked out well for you. Also, any ladies out there who use this business model and agree?
You might not have read enough threads as this has been discussed many, many times (and there is no resolution on a "correct" answer). I could easily punch holes in all of your "theories", but better you do a little more reading to make this determination on your own.
If you feel like dropping $ 1k for a gal...that is fine. If you think it will be a better/safer experience then that is all you need to know. What anyone else feels is their own bias (and as I stated earlier, you will find numerous discussions on this cost/value relationship).
Many guys have experienced the higher end gals and some experiences will be better than others. And I would think that if you experience one...then try another lady at half that price ($ 500)...and then another at one third the price ($ 300) you can then start assembling your own criteria as to whether the gal with the most $$$$ is worth it to you.
But I'm not sure I would I agree with your logic. Whether an escort charges $300, $500 or $1000 an hour all the well reviewed providers are very conscious of the health risks involved in their line of work. And take all the precautions necessary. All great providers will make your time spent with them, seem like you're the only one that matters to them while you're with them To try and figure out why an escort charges what she does is almost next to impossible and I have long ago stopped such a futile task as trying to figure out how providers think about rates or anything else, for that matter. Now if you think your theory holds water and you can afford to spend that type of $ go for it spend a G note for an hour and have a great time. Good luck!
Thanks for the comments. I am actually not trying to figure out anyone's business model, just checking out an idea that maybe these ladies see fewer gents. As to the prior reply, I am sorry if this is a thread which is being revisited. I tried a couple of searches and nothing came up.
that they appeal to customers who pay that amount. Their rate doesn't indicate anything about their volume, safety or stress level. It's not as though there's a fixed amount that all providers make, so their volume can be deduced from their rate.
So, I agree with the others, if you think you're a $1k type of guy, give it a shot.
I am surprised that you don't think that at certain price levels, there is far less demand and, therefore, less volume.
I read an interesting post on one of these boards recently by a provider who said that at very high prices ladies cannot see enough people to earn as much as those charging half as much. Based on that sort of thinking, it would seem that very high end have fewer partners.
Would be interesting to hear from a UTR provider on this (which, by definition, I guess won't happen!)
At $1,000/hr., there will be some providers who could attract higher volume at a lower rate, and others who could charge much more but with less demand and lower volume. You can say the same thing about most any price level. Yeah, it's doubtful that a million dollar escort is seeing 10 guys a day, but I don't think there's anything about a $1,000 rate that supports the OP's assumptions. He'd find escorts who meet his criteria better by choosing based on a careful reading of their reviews rather than settling on a particular rate.
Posted By: chrispacis
I am surprised that you don't think that at certain price levels, there is far less demand and, therefore, less volume.
There may be 100 times the demand in the $200 to $350 dollar range compared to the $1000+ range but there is also 100 times that many providers there to feed that demand. In my area there is only one $1000 an hour lady but there is hundreds of $200 to $350 providers from choose from. I know of plenty of $200 to $350 ladies that only do this part time ad see 3 or less clients a week. Your logic is flawed.
i do not consider myself to be "UTR," however as i have not advertised in a very long while and hence only see gents with whom i've already established a relationship, i suppose i am something close to that. i have always found the idea that a provider's rates relate in any way to the volume of clients she sees to be quite silly. first of all it makes the assumption that every provider has the same goal of earning a living through this kind of service, which is just not the case. many providers earn a very nice living via the typical "vanilla" career paths, and escort only for "mad" money, or to reach a specific temporary financial goal sooner (that vacation to egypt), or, believe it or not, simply for fun!
in my case my Husband earns a good living and supports our household well, and although i earned a bachelor's degree in anthropology at 21 i have been a happy homemaker for the entirety of my marriage. so i have no pressing financial need motivating my actions within the "hobby." also, not being particularly materialistic or high-maintenance, i lack the desire for extra money and the baubles to gained by it just for the sake of it. therefore my rates have always been and always will be on the fairly low side. however i never serve more than two gents in a week, and never more than 5 in the course of a month. and back in the days when i still advertised, i rejected at least 98% of those who contacted me, primarily for reasons of incompatibility. so you see a provider can be extremely selective, very low volume, yet have very reasonable rates. personally i chose my rates as they are for two reasons: to be able to accomplish my goal of serving/caring for men who truly need what i have to offer, whether they happen to be a CEO or construction worker; and to still allow me the personal naughty pleasure of feeling like a "whore." if my rates were what many believe they should be, then i would start to feel like i were almost taking advantage of men, or giving them the impression that they are lowly peons who should feel honored to be in my presence. mind you i am not describing the attitude of any high-cost provider in general...that is simply how I would feel in such a situation. and being such a service-oriented person by nature that would just be unbearable for me.
I don't meet with many people (relatively speaking), have a $1k+ "entry fee", and am gorgeous, enchanting, enthusiastic, and talented. Hey, you brought it up first!
However, I don't think having a high-end persona is an automatic assurance that a lady is going to be lower volume and have a lower stress level, and therefore be safer and provide a more enjoyable experience. Though I try not to let it get to me during dates, my stress level is actually pretty high (one of the reasons I don't schedule a lot of dates is that I just don't have time!), and I've known several ladies who, despite having rates much higher than mine, are busy, busy bees. Busier than I could ever juggle, so props to them.
Echoing what others have said, if a lady appeals to you physically, mentally, or otherwise and you can afford her rate, then that's who you should see. Please don't let having a lower rate dissuade you from seeing someone who otherwise interests you; my rates were at one time far below what they are now, and I was just as healthy and devoted to each encounter as I am currently. To assume negative things about a lady solely because her rate is below [x] dollars per hour is a frequent mistake I see a lot of gentlemen making -- they miss out on meeting some fantastic women. Don't let it happen to you.
And based on the OP wanting to "start" with a $ 1k gal, that would exclude you (ironically enough) as you are at $ 500/hr (granted a two hour min for the $ 1k). Many of us have paid those prices on multi-hour dates with a lady such as yourself. But as a newbie (sort of like the kid in the candy store for the first time) he will need to go through the learning curve to ultimately decide for himself. And I would venture to say that if he reads his original post six months from now (and hopefully has 10 gals reviewed) he will understand that this question is impossible to answer. Only his experiences will reveal to him what he is seeking.
I hesitated before replying because I wasn't sure which one he meant, but once I get an opinion formed I find it hard to pipe down. But thanks for pointing out that I'm a relatively (there's that word again!) good bargain! Hee hee.
Regardless, I wholeheartedly agree that there is a learning curve, and only experience will give him true insight.
I just had to assume he meant per hour...otherwise it could be a lady at $ 250/hr for 4 hours...and I didn't get the impression that was what he was looking for.
Too bad for him right now...cause I'd bet you could teach him quite a bit on the experiences with a quality lady
All I can speak to is my own experience. Most expensive ladies I have seen charged between $XXXX.5 and $XXXXX per hour, though with a 2 hour minimum, at least one was a $1k provider. Have also seen a lady who charged $180 (not an AMP, btw), and at lots of points in between.
The ladies who are most obsessed with safe sex - covered everything, no kissing, etc - were all at the low end of the price range. This makes sense because they are offering less service, so they pretty much have to charge less. And the AMPS, definitely at the low end of prices, all wash you down before they do anything. But I do not think it is a big difference in the risk, or that one can say ladies are safer at one price point than another. Never got an STD (and I get tested regularly), never saw evidence of anything in a lady I was visiting at any price point. If and when I do see something, it will be reflective of that lady, and not anyone else who charges the same rate.
The one difference I can say for sure, is that the more expensive ladies know how to market themselves better, and are often more comfortable spending a longer, more intimate, amount of time with you. But the reasons why they charge more vary all over the place. Some are eye candy who can show up, look lovely, be entertaining and oh so charming, anywhere, any time. Others are women who treat you like a king, take you places you did not even know existed, and are literally open to do almost anything. Some of those may be a bit older, not as young and lovely as they once were, but they have all the skill in the world, a loyal clientele built over years, and it all works. So at your $1k rate you will find fashion models who are best in public and experienced women who may not be a beautiful but are just fucking wonderful - completely different experience same price.
There are also less expensive ladies who can do all those things. All the rate tells you is how much you are going to spend. As it worked out for me, the most expensive women I have seen have not been great experiences. Not because of the money, but because we did not click. That is all on me, though - my selection process was flawed. In one case, I thought I was getting the glossy pictures, in another we struck up something of an online friendship and I really did not screen her much at all so I was a little surprised by what I got. These days I know better. There are some very expensive women, highly reviewed, highly recommended, that would surely delight me, and I do plan to see them one of these days.
Read the reviews, do your research, find the ladies that offer what you want, and do not worry about the price beyond whether you can afford it. Some prefer to spend as little as possible, some have serious budget constraints, others like to spend a lot of money, and some just spend what they must to see the lady that catches their eye. I guess I am in that last group. Only you can decide which of these approaches is "right," though there are lots of people who will scream and yell that their way is the best way.
... is to keep my rates at a place that accomplishes my goals, attracts the type of client that I most enjoy, and leaves me enough free time to be able to have a well-balanced life.
My "entry fee" is 2k, but it is not the most frequently booked option. I see, on average, 6-8 gents a month and about 75% are repeats. I have a full life (domestic responsibilities, run a 'real' company that does business nationally, avid golfer, work out about 10-12hrs/wk, have a social life, etc) and my dates are fabulous breaks from the 'every day' nature of things.
My entry fee used to be 1/4 of what it is (about 2 years ago) and I was so swamped with requests, I ended up feeling like I was stretched too thin. Each time I increased my rate, my clientele changed a bit (for the better) and until I hit my current rate, there was actually an increase in requests! When I hit my current rate (about a year ago), the number of requests dropped off somewhat significantly but my bottom line almost tripled. What I used to make while feeling hectic, scattered, frantic and like I was failing everyone in every aspect of life, has much more than doubled and I have sooo much more 'me' time. And the guys I get to see are simply awesome. It's about working smarter, not harder. Overall, I'm a lot happier, a lot less stressed with trying to juggle everything, a lot more financially secure (which makes me very happy!) and enjoying the heck out of life!
So, to your question... in my case I would agree with your assumptions regarding high end ladies. But I also know my situation may very well be different than other ladies in the same bracket, so I cannot speak for them or make a universal statement to that affect. If your means allow, try out a high end lady and see for yourself - only bear in mind that there still is that elusive chemistry factor and while HDH A might not float your boat, HDH B might blow your mind.... just like "regular" priced lady A and B.
Hey EC....you are the epitome of what the high end gals are. Smart, articulate, well written, and your pics aren't too shabby either. Hopefully, the OP looks you up and takes the plunge with a lady like you.
Wow; not many differing viewpoints on this matter, except for EC , who kind of said she agreed with my thesis. (EC, please do tell if you are ever in NY). I did not mean to sound arrogant, or like a snob, and if you read my OP, you will see that I made lots of big qualifying statements.
I was making no value judgements whatsoever; simply wanted to see if others agreed that a higher cost lady would correlate to her having fewer encounters. My apologies if sounded like a dick.
Thank you for your responses. In the future, I will not be hesitant to post with my actual TER handle!
of snobbery or dickishness. It's just that you asked about a correlation that a lot of snobs assume to be true without questioning it. No need to apologize or take the decisiveness of replies personally.
Hell no!! I am not insane. Was actually going 180 degrees the other way, thinking that, all other things being equal, which they never are, this might be part of a strategy of minimizing exposure to health issues. Again, not a putdown to anyone, was just thinking about the law of numbers.
That opinion, however, appears to have been soundly rejected by the participants of this board!
I'm by no means an experienced guy. I don't think I even have my two reviews on this site yet. But from the experience I do have, don't confuse these girls with a used car. These girls don't really have "mileage". The half dozen or so girls I've seen could have just left a date, or couldn't have been on one for a week or so, and I couldn't tell the differnce. Stick with anyone who has good reviews, and I"m sure she'll treat you like you're the only guy she's seen in awhile.
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if my rates were what many believe they should be, then i would start to feel like i were almost taking advantage of men, or giving them the impression that they are lowly peons who should feel honored to be in my presence. mind you i am not describing the attitude of any high-cost provider in general...that is simply how I would feel in such a situation. and being such a service-oriented person by nature that would just be unbearable for me.