Any hobbyist who tries to tell a lady how to run their business gets a big Fuck Off from me. It is almost always self serving and unless that hobbyist is willing to wear a hookers shoes for a week, he only has his interest as a potential customer at heart. Sorry if that offends but in my experience, that has been the case.
Hello Everyone,
I am writing this post as a primer for new providers who are trying to enter this business; seasoned providers who may have become less than enthusiastic about their job; and for anyone else that cares to read it. I am not a provider. But I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night, so I feel as if I might have some expertise valuable to the profession.
It's also fun to post things that get people to talking! LOL
Before reading the rest, grab your favorite beverage before starting. It's a LONG one!
*** Third of Three Parts ***
You've booked an Appointment
GREAT!!!!!!! Congrats! You're on your way! There is a guy interested in you, he has the money, and you have the time. What now? Well, think of it this way, when you shop for a car, and you walk into the showroom, do the cars have mud all over them? Does the place smell like a swamp? Are the sales people dressed like hillbillies at a truck pull? Hell no! You need to be in a nice hotel. I'm talking the Hyatt or some other 3-star/4star place that indicates you have class. Maybe you don't have class, maybe you live in a trailor, but this business is about perceptions. Show the guy you know the difference. You can get a 4-star room for $65 on Priceline. Do it!
Some girls think they are so hot looking that they can make the guy book his own room, and she commands the same income. Yep! They get away with it. Don't think that YOU can. Do the right thing. You are in this biz to provide fantasies and these guys are dropping good money on you. Get a nice place, decorate it with candles, scents and get a decent stereo to play relaxing music. How would YOU want a guy to receive you? Do the same for him. We aren't that different.
Wear hot looking outfits. Barefeet is not hot. Most of you are not tall enough to make a guy feel insecure by your height. That was over in 7th Grade. Wear those spiked heels, thigh high hose, gorgeous bras, and do your hair. Men want to see you with make up. We want to know that you prepared for us. Men are animals. The best way to make us most human is to shower us, shave us, put some cologne on us. However, you women are different. And MEN are dropping the envelope. Remember? That is why you are doing this. Dress up, dress your room up, do it all. WE deserve it.
*** NOTE: Be sure to check with your client to make sure he is NOT sensitive or allergic to perfume! Some guys do NOT want you to wear perfume as not to bring "evidence" home to his family. Ask the client FIRST before slathering that perfume on!! ***
Be sure to give that guy the time of his life. Assume that he is going to write a review of you. Every guy CAN write a reveiew, but only some of them do. Never let a guy tell you that his review is more important than other reviews. He's lying and trying to get you to fuck you for free. Treat every guy that you invite to your incall as if he's the greatest guy in the world, and you'll never have to worry abou this. Some guys have written 50 reviews on this and other sites. That means that spends alot of money on you and other ladies. Treat him well, but treat him just like the guy that is knocking on your door for the first time. NEVER let someone bully you into doing things for a review that you wouldn't normally do.
If you ever bypass a condom, you are a slut, a worthless cunt, and all the women that you'd love to be friends with, will villify you. Fucking a guy bareback will jeopardize the hobby, your income, and everyone's fun. If you fuck without a condom, every girl, every guy, will try their level best to destroy you. Don't do it. Don't think about doing it. If we find out you did it, we'll do everything we can to destroy you. Enough said
You've Just Had A Great Appointment
GREAT!!!!!!!! That guy just left your incall with some silly grin on his face. You did a good job! Guess what? He'll probably remember you for the rest of his life! You made him feel great! I know that makes you feel good. I know, he was fat and ugly, like most men in our later days. But YOU were someone different. You touched us, you talked to us, you listened to us. You are an angel on earth. Enjoy your status!
NOW is the time to jump on your computer and write him a thank you note. Salesmen know this secret, and you should too. Thank him for finding you, booking with you, and ultimately, showing up. You can pay your electric bill now. You can buy diapers or fine lingerie. Whatever you want. He gave that to you and you owe him a thank you! Don't be fooled into thinking that HE owes YOU a thank you. He does not! You're in a service industry, you take pride in running your own business and act like a business owner and thank him for your success. Pepsi and Coca-cola thank you all the time, you should thank your customers, too.
*** Some newbie providers have inquired about blacklist websites. Do NOT bother with those! Why? Let's say that you had a bad session with a client, please tell it to the appropriate forum / board on the website. You'll get more results that way. On blacklist websites, once you put that client on the blacklist, it's almost next to impossible to have that post removed if you change your mind. A large majority of those posts are nothing more than drama posts!!! If you have issues with your clients, talk with experienced providers because they have valuable insight to help you through your situation. Don't waste your time on the blacklist websites and FOCUS on doing your job right! ***
Discretion
If you fuck the Mayor of New York City, take that secret to your grave! I know you'd love to tell that bitch who was the captain of the cheerleaders in high school, how successful you are, but shut the hell up! I know that you'd love to keep a diary! I know that you'd find extreme joy in telling your neighbor about all the powerful men that want to spend time with you. Guess what? If you do tell, we will find out! See the bare-back conversation above! If you tell people, men will slam you in reviews, in the locker room, etc Shut up! The more you shut up, the more popular you will be.
Powerful men fear their wives just as much as schmuck bowling champions in Po-Dunk Indiana. Do your job right and shut up!!! That's what you're paid for!!!
InFinitum
I hope this "primer" has been helpful to those who are new and those who've been around a while, but thought maybe she's invincible. She isn't. We aren't. We're all just trying to get through this together.
Gents, forget the bartering, haggling, and other tricks that only show you have no money. Plus, guys, don't fall into the drama... you don't need it... ladies don't need it. Stay out of it!
Ladies, forget the gossip, the incessant posts, the drama, and the crazy posts that show you really aren't all that desired.
The hobby works for itself. Ladies make money, guys have fun. When anyone tries to manipulate that, things get all messed up!!!!!!!!!
I love you all, especially the lucky ladies who have seen me. I'll remember you and I won't forget you!
I'm done posting this one. This is everything I know. I hope it helps.
*** End of Part Three ***
sunrosc
It really should be titled "How to provide for Dummies" 
Everyone can benefits (to different degree) from this (maybe even for the very best in this business). It contains so much useful info. I, for my own selfish reason, wish everyone becomes better at what they do so I can get more enjoyment from this hobby. Very good read. GJ
I will say one thing...not all ladies can or even want to pull off the hooker heels and fishnets. I for one feel ridiculous dressed like that and it will show. My advice is for the lady to dress how she is most comfortable and I don't mean sweats and a tank top, although many guys go for that look.
There is no excuse for unkempt on either part. Do the best with what you have is all anyone is asking.
Saturn,
Ok, from what I can see, you have been around for some time now, that means you're beyond the Newbie stage. That's great, however, remember the days when you first started out? You probably did not have a clue where, how, when to start your new venture.
As far as dressing for the session goes, I am only suggesting a few ideas. Never will force that on anyone. If you prefer to wear business casual outfit, then please do so.
What if the client prefers you to wear high heels and fishnet? Would you say 'No'? Even it means losing out on more money or a potential client?
sunrosc
There is no excuse for unkempt on either part. Do the best with what you have is all anyone is asking.
I don't possess any of that attire and I would feel stupid and uncomfortable and it would show.
Saturn,
Ok, it's your option and your business.
Good luck,
sunrosc
But you need a lesson in how to successfully change your handle.
You have all your original reviews attached to this one LOL
Hi I'm just wondering what made you (a hobbyist) decide to write a provider guide? It is really an interesting POV and light and fun but.. leaves out a trillion things. Anyways I was just wondering as I tend to do.... Tia
Hello Kadi,
Like the original post title clearly says... New Provider Primer. See the word 'Primer'? It gives any newbie provider a sense of direction of WHERE to go, not to hold your hand in every single situation that you may or may not run into.
This primer was NOT intended to cover those "trillion" things that you mentioned.
Yes, there are probably 2 or 3 coats of paint that needs to be put on before a provider feels good to declare herself a good business person in this field.
I am only providing the primer, the rest is up to you.
sunrosc
hey capricornus..i would seriously think about going out and getting laid instead of writing mini-novels telling us what to do..you need to budget your time a little better..there are a lot more interesting things to do with your time rather than writing this fictionalized epic..
... As Is.
If you don't want to help people out, then you are welcome to skip this thread and move on.
Just don't take your frustration out on me because you didn't think of this first.
sunrosc
While there are a few good points in this thesis, all readers should realize it is just one hobbyist's opinion, of a how a lady should run her business.
Personally, I disagree with a lot of it, but I don't have the time and am in no mood, to pick it apart right now.
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Any hobbyist who tries to tell a lady how to run their business gets a big Fuck Off from me. It is almost always self serving and unless that hobbyist is willing to wear a hookers shoes for a week, he only has his interest as a potential customer at heart. Sorry if that offends but in my experience, that has been the case.
I was actually surprised you kind of gave a compliment to the thread in your other post ("not bad overall").
I would be brutally honest too, except as I mentioned above, I didn't have the time to fully counter the OP and I didn't want to turn a newbie board thread into a trainwreck. Suffice to say, I am way more in agreement with you than I am with ser, uhm, I mean capricornus.
I am actually surprised that in his mini novel here, he didn't recommend that new providers meet their clients at Wendy's prior to the date for screening, and that they should only collect their "donation" at the end of the date! 
Great catch on the meeting at Wendy's and the donation after...well done PS. I was giving sercapricornus the benefit of the doubt but then read all three and choked on my own spit.
to begin with. We have his posts to confirm the kind of serpsych he really is, and then some.
Well I liked the 3rd volume the best lol. Also I want to point out that new providers do need to utilize blacklist to ensure that there screened client is not all ready on it. That is all.
Too bad some of that was good advice.
Katie,
Re-read that part again. It was directed at people who DO NOT USE CONDOMS!
If you don't get it, I do feel sorry for you.
sunrosc
Using terms like that in no matter what context does not get the reader/person to listen much to anything more you have to say. If you want the ladies to actually keep reading your "work", then name calling is counterproductive. But hey, you know all about hookers and the business so I guess it might behoove you to make this epic thing into an ebook and sell it. You can then judge by sales how effective it is.
Saturn,
As I have stated before and for the last time...
If you don't like the thread, please move on.
It's that simple, don't make it a train wreck.
sunrosc
By posting your OP.
And your typical reaction is "I'm a great guy".
You're a scary John...and fortunately many many many know all about you.
Keep on posting this crap up and expose yourself even more.
frm your message, as is evident by this segue. I don't think Saturn wants to create a train wreck, and she is correct to express her revulsion at the slur, which revulsion I share.
How about "depraved succubus" instead?
It has great emotional impact without the baggage.
Just trying to be helpful here and keep the train on the tracks.
MrFisher,
Ok, I do agree that I should have used better choice of words to make the point I was trying to make.
I should also include the guy in this equation, too. Maybe, 'worthless bastard'?
How come the British aren't offended by the term 'cunt'? It's used a lot in their daily language.
"Don't be a pussy" (USA) is the same as "Don't be a cunt" (UK).
At least YOUR post was a very well stated comment... unlike the rest.
sunrosc
How about "depraved succubus" instead?
It has great emotional impact without the baggage.
Just trying to be helpful here and keep the train on the tracks.
He did not write this post!!! Vegas found the damn original post on another board, and it's not from this guy/pansy.
Wasn't the tone intended to be somewhat satirical ? LMAO
What he really meant to say was, "Feel free to say that I am really smart and this is incredibly useful. Otherwise, STFU because you are wrong!"
Because for a guy who seemed to be inviting a discussion, he is awfully defensive.
Nothing more to say, because I am pretty sure he is not interested in my opinion any more than I am in his.
zig
Sparticus is just too predictable.
But we know all about him LOL
all of his handles end up with US..unfortunately for us..
I think you make good points, but there is too much of this tone of "You're not as hot as you think you are, and this isn't as simple as you think it is."
And that's fine. Because sometimes it's quite true. I helped out a girl who was leaving her agency to go indie, because she felt that was better. And the agency, honestly, was done with her. They weren't seeing eye to eye, and I was basically her last appointment between agency and her. I am friends with both sides, but after having the benefit of seeing both sides, I can tell you that the glrl's expectations were unreasonable for several reasons. She probably could have used some of the advice on your three posts.
Having said that, your propensity for giving the bad news first is a little heavy-handed. Yes, many girls who do this really have no business doing this (I could name one off the top of my head right now), but I don't think that the tone you used here is that helpful, honestly. It's enough to take out a few of the potentially good providers as well as weeding out the ones that we really don't think should be in this business.
I mean, I've been in this hobby for over two decades and have spent millions doing this. It's kind of insane to think about that, but that's how the numbers come out. I think what you said makes a lot of sense, but it just could have been delivered better.
Don't get me wrong. I'm the same way when it comes to a guy who asks me about wanting to work in the capital markets. I'm the first to say things like, "If you take shit personally, this is a bad job. If you are a pussy, this is a bad job. If you don't like to be shit on, this is a bad job. If you have penis envy and think you are smarter than your boss who makes 10x to 20x what you make, this is a bad job." You think you're doing the person a favor, and maybe you are, but saying the positive things first before the negative ones makes all the difference in the world...and gets the same point across.
Crazy,
I do agree that some points could have been better said, won't argue on that one.
Here's the main reason for my posts being on the "agressive side" is that many ladies who are considering getting into the profession do so with "rose colored glasses".
The posts were done to give those ladies a dose of a reality check.
Like I have stated to many of the posters who hated my posts... this is a PRIMER. Nothing more. It's up the ladies to THINK and do some homework before getting into this business.
Someone else posted a comment in this thread with a link to a website that gives literally step-by-step on how to be a provider. Wonderful! That's the kind of responses that I am looking for that will help that lady to decide whether or not to become a provider.
I never intended my posts to start a train wreck, but the blame falls on those people who have an agenda against me. If they cannot accept my posts, do some constructive criticism, not a bunch of whining and belly-aching childish posts that don't contribute to the thread in the first place. Your post was a constructive criticism of my threads. I wish more people posted like you did.
sunrosc
And that's fine. Because sometimes it's quite true. I helped out a girl who was leaving her agency to go indie, because she felt that was better. And the agency, honestly, was done with her. They weren't seeing eye to eye, and I was basically her last appointment between agency and her. I am friends with both sides, but after having the benefit of seeing both sides, I can tell you that the glrl's expectations were unreasonable for several reasons. She probably could have used some of the advice on your three posts.
Having said that, your propensity for giving the bad news first is a little heavy-handed. Yes, many girls who do this really have no business doing this (I could name one off the top of my head right now), but I don't think that the tone you used here is that helpful, honestly. It's enough to take out a few of the potentially good providers as well as weeding out the ones that we really don't think should be in this business.
I mean, I've been in this hobby for over two decades and have spent millions doing this. It's kind of insane to think about that, but that's how the numbers come out. I think what you said makes a lot of sense, but it just could have been delivered better.
Don't get me wrong. I'm the same way when it comes to a guy who asks me about wanting to work in the capital markets. I'm the first to say things like, "If you take shit personally, this is a bad job. If you are a pussy, this is a bad job. If you don't like to be shit on, this is a bad job. If you have penis envy and think you are smarter than your boss who makes 10x to 20x what you make, this is a bad job." You think you're doing the person a favor, and maybe you are, but saying the positive things first before the negative ones makes all the difference in the world...and gets the same point across.
I'm not into board cliques or all that shit. If you made some mistakes and fucked some people over in the past, I don't know/care about it. If you fuck me over, that's a different story, but I have seen nothing on your end to warrant that.
In the end, I think people should be able to have a very honest and open discussion without resorting to insults. That's just how I roll, but I can see already how there are certain guys who just think their way is the right way.
I'm already about THISCLOSE to being called a pussy and a WK by some guys, but you know what? I could care less. They don't pay for my sessions. They don't pay for my VIP TER membership. And they have nothing to do with the pussy I get or don't get.
So I give them the appropriate treatment. I respond nicely, but in the end, I couldn't give a shit about their opinions.
Crazy,
Took the words out of my mouth!
Not only some guys but some GALS think that their way is the ONLY WAY!
Please... spare me the drama.
sunrosc
In the end, I think people should be able to have a very honest and open discussion without resorting to insults. That's just how I roll, but I can see already how there are certain guys who just think their way is the right way.
I'm already about THISCLOSE to being called a pussy and a WK by some guys, but you know what? I could care less. They don't pay for my sessions. They don't pay for my VIP TER membership. And they have nothing to do with the pussy I get or don't get.
So I give them the appropriate treatment. I respond nicely, but in the end, I couldn't give a shit about their opinions.
Lungman,
Train wrecks are kind of messy, aren't they?
At least now, the trains are back up and running.
sunrosc