But check those reviewers to see if they have other reviews.
Hello, newbie here.
I am arranging for a date that starts out with dinner. Is it a good assumption that LE would not take the time to sit through dinner date with you to try to catch you?
She's a reviewed provider by valid members (although only 3) and a p411 account.
Thanks in advance.
It would not be financially prudent for Uncle LEO to do that. They want to maximize their catches and usually will set up a sting in a room so they can nab as many guys as possible in a short time. Even though she only has 3 reviews, I'd say your odds are pretty good that she is safe, just be sure you have done the research on her.
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But check those reviewers to see if they have other reviews.
If she has three reviews (recent) and P411 more likely the possibilities are zero. Plus remember, typically, they need to have you on voice/video so they would be wasting the entire time through dinner.
If she is LE and you show up for dinner - you get arrested. Period. LE can pretty make up anything they want for the arrest report: there was an ad,you replied, you showed, you're done. I've had friends that were arrested in the hallway on the way to the room (outcall) and the arrest report said she came in the room and offered greek for $.
I understand this can be a daunting but if you screen your provider you won't have problems. She's reviewed (3 is ok,less than 3 I would wait), she's on P411 (not fool proof but a good addition to your screening). The search her name, email address and whatever information you may have and actually sift through what comes up in the search engine. That's it! Ten minutes to screen your provider and you'll be fine.
TER reviews + P411 make it unlikely to be LE. Since that's what I do, I certainly hope it works.
Personally, I like to see 5 solid reviews (by reviewers with 10+ reviews).
Especially if you end up at a relatively nice place for dinner, they aren't going to have the budget to watch two people eat, drink, and talk for over an hour without spending their money. There are REAL criminals (consenting men and women) to catch!!
For her to do makeup, dress, travel to dinner, the meal time itself... is more work than straight providing. Try to eat lightly & moderate drinking as she should too. Both hobbiest & provider can have a good time but need to keep their wits about them at all times.
I doubt that LE would stake out a dinner meeting... excepting places where Escorting is a licensed activity... presuming she has no such license... but Social Escorting is not Prostitution & it not money for sex so is legal. If a paid sexual encounter follows or is agreed to, then it is IllegaL Prostitution. But is LE going to follow you to dinner? Not likely.
Most newbies... We all were once... are most afraid of LE. The odds of a scam are much higher than an encounter with LE.
Do your homework.
Is she stressing the mention of certain.sex acts over phone or face to face. Be aware both audio and visual surveillance are used during stings and arrests for both prostitution as well as many other thing. if anyone repeatedly asked me about a certain s*** act for a fee...immediately that's a red flag and I will discontinue any conversation with them or contact.
on your end also if you're mentioning specific sex acts you are looking for for a fee you are also in dangering yourself by doing that kind of talk.in the event it is an undercover and you are asking about BJ or HJ you're definitely going to get popped. is she has a bunch of reviews I would just personally message some of the hobbyist check and see exactly how reliable these hobbyist some questions that are reviewing her are...
if they've only been reviewing for about the past year and they only have 45 reviews I definitely would not think they hold any clout and I would not trust their word.
if she has some reviews from guys that been around anywhere from 4 to 10 years she's definitely legit and I don't think you have to worry. however there will always be in four mins snitches even people who were previously
Criminal can flup.
there's been much gossip about people p 411 or date check account someone getting arrested then turning over their account to the Popo,,,
and then in turn people were thinking they were having a dialogue with a provider VI a preferred 411 or date check when in fact they weren't they were having a conversation with a cop because the provider has turned her call over to the police after she got pinched.
I've actually heard that from someone who's been obvious for 10 years and seen some of the best in the industry very active on the board so you take it what you like take it with a grain of salt it is what I've heard and I'm just relaying information to help you stay safe.
from what I understand they are aggressive towards people who are possibly going to see women who are in trouble and are under the age of 18 I heard about some kind of sex trafficking laws and lots of heavy handedness coming down on the client.
for example there is a woman who post recently and add and she has no reviews but her pictures it is unsure whether or not she's 18 I personally thought she could have passed for 16 or 17 but we just can't say
I would definitely be careful if its someone who is clearly not of age or looks extremely young.
if you are that scared of getting arrested I wouldn't do it at all
that is always a possibility for the hobbyist or the provider and if it is that life or death situation to you I wouldn't be involved in this anyway just go see someone on the casual encounter area or fuck book.
Know goin into it anything can happen at any time whether they are reviewed or not reviewed I've heard another story of a woman working from the same hotel for more than a couple of days running 70 more men in every day in the same location mind you, being in particular a nice hotel downtown know the story was told to me from a lawyer.
he said she ended up calling him to have him give her some last minute help because she ended up getting taken in she wasn't even from Massachusetts.
so she's in the same place for more than a couple of days she's making tons of money 70 more guys in and out today all the sudden the police set up a sting two doors down from her.
In hotel.
as the story goes the police began stopping for men leaving her room and they were kind of telling them basically if they don't write on her what will happen is when the police take her down they will put the hobbyist real first and last name in the paper along with her arrest info when it does get printed in the paper.
this was used as a fear tactic towards the hobbyist which than a lot of them would crack and give her up.
all I need is for a couple of people to come straight out and say that they have engaged with sex with a fee with this woman whether or not these people fall for what the police are tricking them to try to get the info you don't ever have to talk to police you can always request a lawyer but however this tactic scared the hobbyist into riding her out thus making her have to end up in jail because of what they were saying towards her
even though well reviewed woman could end up jammed up just be careful and keep your fingers crossed
and do your homework don't just look at her reviews take a look at how many women the man has reviewed and how long he's been a hobbyist
pretty much research will never really be done there is always more researching to be done I know I could sit there and research someone for days and days and still not be done.
in fact I've gotten so paranoid sometimes but I didn't even end up getting any appointments because no one seems to make the cut because I was reading into everybody's info so deeply that I was getting freaked out by just about everybody I realized I had to ease up on the whole being paranoid about who my clients are.
just remember if you ever get stopped by the police coming or going from the ladies hotel room you do not have to speak to policing you have the right to say nothing it's not illegal for two consenting adults to meet up and if you do say what was going on you are then putting this person's freedom in jeopardy.
and again the police can also read a woman's house and confiscate her computer for
Evidence.
Or phones.
try not to leave a huge trail of phone numbers and call logs and what not what have you and just be careful what you say over the phone just remember no one's going to arrest you for being a consenting adult meeting with another consenting adult however once you start emitting you're doing this or that
and for the most part if you're not being greedy and you're laying low
it's mainly if the woman is in the same place for too long. Of time like say a hotel room that's right fancy with a lot of rich people around the just don't plan wanna be next door to a woman who has 8 johns a day.
you might want to look with some of the ladies in your area that you separate incall apartments hotels people tend to push the lock and have a lot of traffic in and out that's making everyone else in more danger
and worse when women are constantly getting hotels in the time they actually live in more than likely if their pre booking number going to walk right into a staying no woman goes and gets a hotel in the town she lives in Austin or every week that pretty much is a red flag and soon enough you'll be walking into a sting specially if you pre-book.
I would say try to find someone that has a separate incall apartment
it's your call but I just think residences where it is very very very low volume anyone that has a separate incall apartment is usually doing about two to three out of the incall partment at most a week
someone who has a hotel room is going to be try to squeeze in as many appointments as they can that one day that they are there is a lot more likely to raise eyebrows that way plus you're going to be on video cameras welcoming in and out
it's also easy to explain your car being parked at a big apartment building or house however if your car's parked in a hotel it's going to be extremely hard to explain that to the wife you pretty much wouldn't be able to explain it you'd be busted
If you make your donation prior to going out to dinner without discussing anything else, the LE would have a harder job of proving your intent to pay for sex.