It may (but not necessarily) becomes less likely LE if fully undressed. I recommend 1 1/2 hours to get aquainted for newbies. I am now better at getting into things than before, but still want an hour.
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Well I finally popped my cherry tonight, so I guess I am no longer a clueless newbie. I am, however, still completely clueless. I saw a provider who advertised a GFE and I could have her friend along for a little extra, so when I called I mentioned that I would very much like to be with her and her friend.
So I get there and things are *awkward*. I'm trying to be a gentleman, politely asking if "is this ok? Is it ok if I touch you there?" etc. etc. and I am just not getting any response (so it was a flashback to high school).
Long story short: After about 15 minutes of just about nothing, it was made clear to me that there would be no females undressing (or really doing much of anything) until I was completely naked, something I would have to do on my own. Now believe me, I have no problem taking it all off with others around but I was hoping for a little bit more interaction than me standing up and stripping. It's been a long time since I had a GF but I remember a process whereby we undressed each other. So I undressed (completely) and once I did it was like someone flipped a switch and they started undressing each other - an activity they made clear I would not be welcome to help out with. Is any of this unusual or is this how these things go?
Once we got to this point, things finally got rolling (although I felt rushed). So am I wrong to have expected a little bit more in the foreplay department? Because I gotta tell ya that that's really what I wanted very badly. Here I was afraid that once I got into this I would be addicted but I have to say that after tonight that is certainly not in any danger of happening.
Usually, well reputed GFE providers do not say that you "could have her friend along for a little extra"
Doubles are what they are - double the fun double the rate.
GFE advertisement without reviews backing it up is just what it is. Advertisement.
In case you are wondering what real GFE doubles can be like .. here is one of examples
Lina
And GFE is one of the most over used terms in the hobby. Especially by inexperienced providers. My suggestion is for you to read the self help center in red on the top right of the newbie main page.
Most hobbyist will not do doubles with ladies when they've never been with either provider. It helps if you've been with one of the ladies and she usually brings a lady friend she's done doubles with before like Lina"s review indicates. And guess what, you're still a newbie.
any reputable gal should be willing to discuss specifics, especially innocent things like foreplay and undressing, after the envelope has been set down.
These gals are just not that good from what you report.
NO..that is not typical. I swear some providers have so many "rules" and "no-nos" that it turns clients off to the hobby!
The only reason I can think that they let you get undressed first is to make sure you weren't LE. But as to why they didn't invite you along in them undressing is beyond me...
Were these ladies well reviewed?Because some ladies will not do much foreplay or bbbj or daty unless you see it noted in her reviews/menu. It's always a good question to ask before starting the activity. (not when you enter the door or over the phone but once you are naked)
I think that you should consider trying just one girl that has many good reviews on her to re-write over this first experience.They were NOT GFE at all...GFE requires touching,kissing,caressing, passion, foreplay, and a little romance....which it seems they did not offer.
If possible I would review them with your experience.don't be mean or hateful but simply tell the truth...you didn't get what you expected(and it's not like you expected something crazy)
So I get there and things are *awkward*. I'm trying to be a gentleman, politely asking if "is this ok? Is it ok if I touch you there?" etc. etc. and I am just not getting any response (so it was a flashback to high school).
Long story short: After about 15 minutes of just about nothing, it was made clear to me that there would be no females undressing (or really doing much of anything) until I was completely naked, something I would have to do on my own. Now believe me, I have no problem taking it all off with others around but I was hoping for a little bit more interaction than me standing up and stripping. It's been a long time since I had a GF but I remember a process whereby we undressed each other. So I undressed (completely) and once I did it was like someone flipped a switch and they started undressing each other - an activity they made clear I would not be welcome to help out with. Is any of this unusual or is this how these things go?
Once we got to this point, things finally got rolling (although I felt rushed). So am I wrong to have expected a little bit more in the foreplay department? Because I gotta tell ya that that's really what I wanted very badly. Here I was afraid that once I got into this I would be addicted but I have to say that after tonight that is certainly not in any danger of happening.
I'm a newbie to the hobby myself but one thing I'm glad I did was follow advice and go with well reviewed providers and be up front about being new to the hobby. As long as your not totally clueless, they'll treat you right.
Been with two great women so far that blew me away.
You may have been swinging for the fences a bit on your first trip to the plate going for a double.....all rookies make mistakes. Ease into it.
It may (but not necessarily) becomes less likely LE if fully undressed. I recommend 1 1/2 hours to get aquainted for newbies. I am now better at getting into things than before, but still want an hour.
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It MIGHT be as you describe, but what are the odds? Probably 70% of my sessions are "first time - only time" and I have not had that kind of intro. Certainly not after I got naked, and I know it wasn't because my bald head, hairy back and middle-aged spread made them so horny - LOL!!!
He got bamboozled by a couple of play-ahs. Plain and simple. The link is of r what I would call a typical duo with my favorite tag team (inspired to share by our lovely Lina)... Not all duos will sound like this, or Lina's. One thing to make sure when paying for two ladies is that they are into each other and have done this before. Other wise your paying for two ladies full-time and they work on you half-time.
Not recommended. You need to know what to expect from both you and the ladies you meet with before meeting with a pair. It sounds like you went into this with unrealistic expectations that weren't realized, but that doesn't mean necessarily that you were ripped off.
My advice, start slowly, establish a comfort level with yourself with the hobby before taking it into the higher gears.
have limited experience in P4P. It seems like they didn't check any references on you so they wanted to ensure (to their validity but not sure about the law) that you were not LE by having you remove your clothes first.
A better doubles experience would be with a lady you have seen and get along well with (i.e. chemistry) bringing along a good friend of hers for a doubles partner. If the ladies are into each other, you will have a great time!