...but many ladies adjust their rates, given the time of year, etc. You will also find that many ladies run specials right before the first of the month: they need to pay the rent or mortgage.
My gifts are listed on my site for three hours or less. Travel dates, extended dates, are reviewed and quoted on a case by case invite: hours, state, country, etc. Hugs and Kisees,Kell
For many providers, if you click on the "Rates" link on their website, it will say "Contact Me" for rate information. Does this means they are negotiable OR does she just want to talk with you beforehand to do some sort of screening? Why not list their rates? I can tell from the reviews, but why not state on the website? And when you do call, do you just say something like "I saw your website and was wondering what you rate is for 1 hour of incall"
Although this is a very touchy topic with most people. Some people consider is negotiation of any form as a complete taboo, while others will negotiate down to the last penny. Some people like to play somewhere in the middle. Lets not get into nuances of negotiation here.
What you are describing seems to be more customary of overnights or 24 hr arrangements. In my experience I have *almost always* seen girls advertise their one or two hour rates. In very small subset I have seen Contact Me an option for very high end ladies. We are talking over 1K per hour donation. This is just an observation - not a theory, and there may or may not be any co-relation.
I cannot comment on what her intentions are as they are best known to her alone. Its her prerogative how to run her business. Her not listing the rates is perhaps rooted in false sense of security that she is somehow safe from LE by not listing them
For one thing, discussion of money is never a good idea. It's how LE entraps people sometimes.
For another, the provider will most likely be trying to size you up and see how much they can get from you. This is never a good idea especially if you are a newbie at this.
So, I would just skip over this provider and find one who does have rates listed, and do not attempt to negotiate with them over it.
The real issue is to never discuss rates and sex acts. You should never say, "How much for a BBBJ?" but you can say, "How much for an hour of your time?" If the rates are available on her website then there is no reason to discuss them. However, if as you said, the rates are not listed and specifically say "contact me," then they expect you to ask. If there are rates listed on her TER profile, then another way to ask is, "Are the rates on your TER profile correct?"
Having said that, mrfisher has a good point, in that it might be better just to skip her and find someone who does list her rates. A lady who doesn't list her rates may be an upseller, or may just change her rates depending on who you are, how much she thinks she can get out of you, or how much she needs at the time. On the other hand I know a reputable well reviewed lady who had flat all inclusive rates but whose website didn't list them and said "contact me." i think some of the free "cookie cutter" websites that some ladies use have "contact me" as default and not all ladies change it.
How you proceed should depend if this is a well reviewed reputable lady, and what and who is available in your area.
Good luck
I don't think it's a good idea for newbies to see a gal when you have to ask for her rates. I would not see her myself if I had to ask for her rates. If you really are interested in her, do as suggested and ask 'how much for an hour of your time?' There is nothing wrong with that, esp if there are no rates posted anywhere.
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...but many ladies adjust their rates, given the time of year, etc. You will also find that many ladies run specials right before the first of the month: they need to pay the rent or mortgage.
My gifts are listed on my site for three hours or less. Travel dates, extended dates, are reviewed and quoted on a case by case invite: hours, state, country, etc.
Hugs and Kisees,
Kell
Very early on, before I went VIP, I called an ad based on pictures and "general info" only and politely and correctly asked about the rate (NOT in the ad). She said something outrageous and I politely said thank you anyway but I'm looking for something at a lower rate. She dropped a hundred. Now, I'm thinking that this can't be good, because if she thinks she deserves X and agrees to see me for (X - 100) she might consciously or subconsciously hold back or worse. I said thank you anyway but ... and she drops another hundred ... wash, rinse, repeat ... She was trying to get me to see her for less than half her first quoted rate but I had to pass.
So I think the message is: Yes, you can call and politely ask for "some info that isn't included in your ad"; apparently, you can negotiate (or she can!); but if you think like I do, someone who has to drop their first quoted rate might not have their act together and MIGHT feel hurt by that and not give 100% at your meeting
When the rate is not listed in the ad, she is forcing you to inquire about it. When you declined her rate and said you were looking for something cheaper, she probably figured you were haggling and decided to drop her rate, you declined and she dropped again. That became her rate.
She was probably using the start high, be willing to sell low(er) sales technique. If the customer doesn't object to the price, it's a nice payday. If the customer objects, she is free to drop the price if she wants/needs to.
You worried too much about her giving 100% because of a price drop. She may just as easily give 100% in the hope you might become a repeat customer. Why have a negative attitude?
You didn't mention if the gal had reviews or not. If not, I would have bailed, but for a different reason, uncle leo.
You make some good points, but I wasn't haggling, because even back then I knew not to haggle. I was DECLINING, or trying to.
She did have reviews but back then I could only read the General Info section and not see her rates ($) or ratings (#/#).
I get it, you weren't haggling.
My thought was if it was a provider I wanted to see, and was satisfied that she was legit, I would not assume her performance would suffer because of a reduced rate.
I am not a fan of haggling, but I do watch for specials!
Its a saying to never post your rate..and honestly the answer to your post varies..yes some girls you can talk down.some just might be playing it safe.some may wont to talk get to know more about you then talk about a price depending. On what you as a client. Might be looking for ..good luck hun.besafe.