How many visits to or from a provider before you're basically a sugar daddy? Just trying to keep a rule of thumb haha

you have an agreement to see her regularly and provider her with a constant income over an extended period of time.  Sugar daddy and hobbyist are 2 different things. IMHO.

Swim

Usually a flat fee of so many thousand a month to see the gal for so many sessions, usually overnight.

For example, a typical deal would be $5,000/mo to have a gal come stay over for 2 or maybe three weekends per month.

You get a discount off her normal rate (A typical weekend goes for around $3,000 or more.), and she gets a steady customer.

As familiarity breeds contempt, most SD relatonships have a shelf life of a year or two.

hahaha what's a sugar daddy?

If you want to have a hard/fast definition like Zangari or ChinaRose do.

To me, it's all just P4P.  I pay, you play.  Whether it's an upfront or monthly arrangement or pay-as-you-go, it's the same shit.

...upfront for the month.  My arrangements are for hours per month; not dates.  One date might be an hour and a half, another two hours, or three, if we go out to lunch or dinner.

  I have two such arrangements, and in both cases, the gentlemen are terrific, and one's I really look forward to spending time with.  

Hugs and Kisses,
Kelly

Also, sugar daddies pay UPFRONT not as they go. It is a weekly or monthly prepaid arrangement, to get the perks and discounts. If he pays by the date, he is an escort client. Simple as that. I don't discount that way, because what's the point or benefit of doing that on my end?