Newbie - FAQ

Hobbying is extremely addictive
ShakingtheSheets 189 Reviews 491 reads
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Hobbying is not like changing toothpaste from Crest to Colgate. If you don't like it, you just switch back and never think twice.

Once you enter the hobby, be prepared to be in it for the long haul. I always advise newbies to really make sure its something you want to partake in. It's an "adult" (and not just in age but in overall attitude and understanding of the entire process) hobby for a reason. While it can be a wonderful and rewarding experience, there is also so much negativity (in many different directions) that can occur if you are not careful. You are only 20 years old; you obviously do not have a lifetime of experiences to draw from. Make sure you really understand what this is all about before you commit. Think with your big head and not just about getting laid. And most important, don't think that you'll just "try it out" whenever you feel like it. It doesn't work that way. Once you enter as a hobbyist, it is very difficult to get out.  

But, if you are confident that you really want to enter (only you can make that final choice), you certainly received some great advice from previous posters on how to enhance your ability to secure an appointment.  
 

-- Modified on 10/15/2013 4:08:21 AM

jabocin1993 reads

I'm a total newbie, prepared to sign up for p411. I'm probably not going to be seeing providers often, just trying this out. 20 years old, 300lb, no references.  
I know some escorts that will see newbies with work info which i'm prepared to provide.  
Do I have a decent chance of getting an escort to see with these conditions?  
Is p411 the right website to sign up with considering I won't be using the whole years worth of service?
Thanks

I really like P411, generally. Gina will work with you to get you verified, and the membership fee seems to be worth it. Plus, it's easy to record your references once you've seen someone through P411 because of their 'Okay' system. Some ladies even provide discounts to p411 members.  

It may not be totally necessary to join if you're willing to share your work info with providers, but please be wary of who you share your personal information (first and last name, workplace) with if you don't go through P411- stick to reputable and well reviewed providers.  

To be honest, many ladies will be unwilling to see you because of your age, especially if they themselves are above a certain age. From what I have read, 35 and up is a common age preference for clients amongst providers. There are a lot of factors that contribute to this preference that I can elaborate on if you're interested. If you make an effort to present yourself in an intelligent, well spoken, mature and respectful way, you will have more luck booking with someone despite your age. Your weight may be a factor in some providers' decision whether or not to see you, but it's probably less important than you think.

Do lots of research, stay safe and have a great time exploring this world!

I was going to reply to the OP, and I read Robin's post, and basically she said everything I was going to say, but from a provider's perspective. :)

I was a newbie back in January.
I've been having lots of fun since.
Join there, learn all you can about proper protocol, hobby phones etc., by reading this board, and be a gentleman.
Now the age thing I can't speak to, as I'm in my 40s, so I'll defer to the ladies on that

As others stated, you have to try and see if any well reviewed, reputable lady would make an exception. P411 is a great way to start and so is date-check, some other regions even use Rs2k. Send a couple of emails to the ladies that caught your eye and explain your situation entirely. We were all newbies at some point so we gotta start somewhere.....Good luck!

Hobbying is not like changing toothpaste from Crest to Colgate. If you don't like it, you just switch back and never think twice.

Once you enter the hobby, be prepared to be in it for the long haul. I always advise newbies to really make sure its something you want to partake in. It's an "adult" (and not just in age but in overall attitude and understanding of the entire process) hobby for a reason. While it can be a wonderful and rewarding experience, there is also so much negativity (in many different directions) that can occur if you are not careful. You are only 20 years old; you obviously do not have a lifetime of experiences to draw from. Make sure you really understand what this is all about before you commit. Think with your big head and not just about getting laid. And most important, don't think that you'll just "try it out" whenever you feel like it. It doesn't work that way. Once you enter as a hobbyist, it is very difficult to get out.  

But, if you are confident that you really want to enter (only you can make that final choice), you certainly received some great advice from previous posters on how to enhance your ability to secure an appointment.  
 

-- Modified on 10/15/2013 4:08:21 AM

GaGambler432 reads

There is nothing deep or dark about it, nor is it a lifetime commitment. It is what it is, nothing more and nothing less.

I fucked my first hooker at fifteen, and honestly it really wasn't that memorable. Don't get me wrong, it was fun, at fifteen with raging hormones any and all pussy was fun, but it certainly wasn't life changing, nor did I repeat buying/renting pussy for several years.

Please don't try to confuse the lad, we aren't here to give life advice, only how to stay safe and out of jail if he chooses to try out P4P for himself.

and just for the record, fucking a prostitute at age fifteen did not stop, or even slow me down in the least from chasing after "regular" chicks, or having "real" relationships, including getting married during which time I was completely faithful, which includes P4P and civvie chicks alike. So please spare me, and the OP the sermon that fucking hookers will ruin his chances for a "normal" sex/love life.

Sorry for the rant, but every time a young guy asks for information about the hobby he gets the sermon about how he should be banging college co eds, and It really isn't our place to judge.

jabocin316 reads

Thanks to everyone for not giving me the "sermon". I'm not to worried about the legality, safety, or maturity factor on my end because this hobby is definitely a couple steps down in those terms from what I've been involved with previously and I know the precautions to take (but I won't get into that for obvious reasons). I didn't realize my age would be a huge problem though so that's pretty discouraging, but understandable. I just wish the providers would have deal-breakers like age laid out clearly, because going through and contacting them one by one would be tiresome on both ends I imagine.

I think you will be selective.  Even guys over her threshold age sometimes have trouble getting appointments.  Gals must have rules & guidelines & screen potential clients.  If you are not the typical client you may need to find a provider who's willing to be flexible in her screening.  You probably won't be able to meet all her standard requirements for information...  So you'll have to give alternative information.  Guys who are self employed or retired have the same problem.  When I started, I gave my landline number...  not to call...  but she must have used a reverse lookup service to confirm my identity.  
In your shoes, I'd expect to actually have a voice conversation to assure her of your maturity.  Generally one does not need ID but you may need to prove your age.  I won't see young providers for the danger of getting stung by an underage.  Acknowledge the legitimate concern & ask what you can do to offset it.  
Don't worry if the gal you pick doesn't want to see you.  This is not Match dot com...  this is a one hour intimate session.  After the hour, you go your separate ways.  So it's ok if she's not your first choice.  
     

Posted By: jabocin
Thanks to everyone for not giving me the "sermon". I'm not to worried about the legality, safety, or maturity factor on my end because this hobby is definitely a couple steps down in those terms from what I've been involved with previously and I know the precautions to take (but I won't get into that for obvious reasons). I didn't realize my age would be a huge problem though so that's pretty discouraging, but understandable. I just wish the providers would have deal-breakers like age laid out clearly, because going through and contacting them one by one would be tiresome on both ends I imagine.

your age will be the largest determining factor on whether a provider will allow you to visit her.  Many providers will simply not see someone your age, and there are a myriad of reasons why.  P411 is a good idea, as they allow the provider members to indicate if they are newbie friendly on their profiles, which makes it easier for guys just beginning.

In addition, a large number of providers will say your weight will not affect their decision to see you, but just as with anything else, it could be a reason for them not to see you.  As long as you are honest with them, and present yourself in a respectful, mature manner, many will see you in spite of your age.

None of us here can predict your chances of finding a provider that will see you.  I would say if you follow the advice given in this thread, your chances would be better than if you don't.  I also suggest that you read the self help center, link under the life preserver at the top of this page.  Start posting on your local board so those that read it can get a better feel for your personality and maturity.  If your posts take time to appear, you are what is known as 'moderated'.  Your posts must be approved by the staff before they appear.  Once you have posted a sufficient number of comments, you can ask to be 'unmoderated'.  If admin agrees to unmoderate you, then your posts will appear immediately.  Everyone had to go thru this.

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This would be my suggestion.  On your local board ask if any providers like big guys, some i'm sure have no problems with big guys.  This will let you know who is interested.  Your big problem is the references, so ask who will see newbies with work verification.  Ask and you shall receive, the ladies on here are very helpful.  Lastly make sure to see well-reviewed ladies...  Have fun!!

Posted By: jabocin
I'm a total newbie, prepared to sign up for p411. I'm probably not going to be seeing providers often, just trying this out. 20 years old, 300lb, no references.  
 I know some escorts that will see newbies with work info which i'm prepared to provide.  
 Do I have a decent chance of getting an escort to see with these conditions?  
 Is p411 the right website to sign up with considering I won't be using the whole years worth of service?  
 Thanks

Stick_A_Fork_In_It350 reads

I'm also a big guy and what I normally do is state that fact to the ladies in my introduction email or PM.  It is part of the consideration we use in the hobby.  Now, I'm losing weight, and I let the providers know that I am doing so and any rejection for weight reasons will not preclude me contacting them in the future.

Just be respectful and use the golden rule when contacting providers and you should be OK.  You may get some rejections, as have I, but you'll also find some great ladies that will make you feel like Channing Tatum.  Don't take any rejections personally, it's part of the hobby.

Good luck.

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if you are honest without giving TMI: To Much Information...  just as you have been here.  It should be obvious why you want to go this route.    
I'd suggest you pass on the youngest providers...  the ones closest to your age.  I find the youngest providers generally expect a guy to function perfectly like throwing a switch.  
I'd suggest you look at the 29-30ish providers have more patience & experience which is important to folks who are not perfect specimens...  over weight, disabilities, etc.  I have challenges myself.  I am a realist, there are things I can not do / can not do safely for both of us.  So we are creative is solving what works & what doesn't.  
We do have virgins ask our assistance from time to time.  I do not know if this is your situation or not.  Just let me briefly say, it is very easy to fall for someone you have sex with.  Sex floods us with hormones...  which was necessary for the survival of the species but is not so helpful in this circumstance.  You do not love her.  You love what she does.  You love how she makes you feel.  
It's been many years but there is something special about the confidence of knowing you can not only please yourself but also you can please a partner.  I recall my youngest self was very self centered.  I regret that now but eventually I did learn...  from a more experienced lover.  Realize that while there is a certain commonality among women just as there is among men...  that they prefer different things just as we do.

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