they may consider it a bargain, but since you are starting out without a track record, that will hold you back.

You might want to start closer to $300/hr until you get popular enough to rise up to the $500/hr you want.

Definitely have a website and get a very good photographer.  That is key.

I think many guys will take you up on the 30 minute outing if it is not too expensive.  Maybe $100 or so.

You should take time to learn about TER also by reading the Newbie/Self Help Manual that is linked on this page.

I wish you great success and look forward to seeing your website sometime.

Hi ~  

there are 2 things...  looks & performance.  As a Civie, you may be a 'catch' but as a pro there are different standards.  You say you "like" massage but in my area massage (with HE) is 100 or a little more.  
GFE is an advertising term with no set definition.   In MY mind, GFE includes hugging & kissing...  and BJs & intercourse...  at that rate, trips to Greece (anal) would have to be included.   Most providers don't go for drinks or coffee or meet except for what ever goes on behind closed doors.  One reason is that to do so she must get fully dressed up, makeup, travel time invest an hour or more getting there for relatively little money.  The big money is upstairs.  

1)In certain cities $500 is no biggie, in other cities it is. 2) At that rate you should have a website, and get a good one. Veda or Orchid Designs do a lot of the high end providers. 3)I'm not into test drives, but some clients might like it

Posted By: Vivid

Hi ~  
   
 For the record, I consider myself a hobbysist too - lol. I have so many questions... If I'm really straight forward what I'm looking for is to make some money to pay off my credit cards. I am very high quality and am setting my rates at $500 an hour. When I say high quality... I mean... well-educated (top 10 uni education) and work full time in the sciences, I'm also a lot of fun and gorgeous. I'm also spiritual and love to give massage and gfe This of course all depends on mutual chemistry. Basically I'm a tough combination to find and men tell me this all the time - how intriguing I am etc  
   
 1. Is that a good rate for someone like me? What is the highest you would be willing to pay for someone Very classy, gorgeous and intelligent? I don't want to upsell and want to set a range that is non-negotiable.  
 2. Does a website help for someone just starting out?  
 3. How would you feel if I said that I would go on a 30 minute outing (appetizer/drinks) just to see if there's chemistry?

Thank you Mr. Fisher that was helpful.

Yes... Thank you - Your post was useful in showing me the type of clients I do not want. That's the point of non-negotiable.. My body, my rules.

Thanks for the feedback. ~ V

You are only planning on visiting with men you find hot? That's what chemistry means in the civvy world ime.

Thanks for your question. Chemistry to me involves more than that

I'll give you my answers to your questions.

What is your contact info? Very interesting?!??

Much of it marketing.
To some, if you go on and on about how intelligent and high quality you are, it sounds pretentious (i.e., you think you are better than most of the other ladies).  This can appeal to others though, if accompanied with the classy photo spread and website, etc. because they WANT to find the elegant, "high qualty" lady, much like going after luxury cars.

I agree that if you have chemistry with somone that makes a great deal of difference in an appointment, as that is how people end up with an all time favorites.

where none might naturally exist, or at least create the illusion of chemistry.
This isn't Match.com.
If your performance is not consistent with different guys your reviews will reflect this.
Now, maybe in the course of this you will find a few guys that you really do have chemistry with and they will become regulars and you can be low volume and not have to deal with new people.  Perhaps that could be your strategy.
I think you should have conversations with other providers though about how they deal with various types of customers.
You certainly have the right to be selective in who you deal with, just don't wait until they show up at your door (generally speaking), to make the decision that you won't "provide" for the gentleman.  Look at it this way, if a guy made a "date" with you and you got a hotel room etc., I don't think you'd be all too pleased if he backed out with you after exchanging pleasantries, just because he wasn't feeling "chemistry."

1. You will find many guys that will pay that but if most escorts are above avg .in looks youll have to be above avg among escorts to charge that price.$500 is the highest I paid but.wont do it again.not worth it to me now.
2. Yes. A good quality one with good pics sells the illusion.
3. I would not be averse to it.  

Posted By: Vivid

Hi ~  
   
 For the record, I consider myself a hobbysist too - lol. I have so many questions... If I'm really straight forward what I'm looking for is to make some money to pay off my credit cards. I am very high quality and am setting my rates at $500 an hour. When I say high quality... I mean... well-educated (top 10 uni education) and work full time in the sciences, I'm also a lot of fun and gorgeous. I'm also spiritual and love to give massage and gfe This of course all depends on mutual chemistry. Basically I'm a tough combination to find and men tell me this all the time - how intriguing I am etc  
   
 1. Is that a good rate for someone like me? What is the highest you would be willing to pay for someone Very classy, gorgeous and intelligent? I don't want to upsell and want to set a range that is non-negotiable.  
 2. Does a website help for someone just starting out?  
 3. How would you feel if I said that I would go on a 30 minute outing (appetizer/drinks) just to see if there's chemistry?

You rarely catch the "Elite" bragging about how hot, and great they are, and 500 is not exactly high if you're in the NE or NW. Coming on here to ask guys what they should pay, is always going to end up being a total fail. Guys on the boards for the most part are 300 guys... again, depending on area of course. The highest end clients were few and far between on review boards.  

Location for me makes the hugest difference to the base price.

Candid questions deserve candid answers. Sex isn't food I realize but if you owned a restaurant you'd would serve anyone who came in as long as they didn't create a ruckus. Well the hobby is pretty similar. If your rule was that only after meeting me would you decide to take me on as a client I wouldn't be interested. I wouldn't want to audition for the right to pay for an hour of your time.  

who you think might be similar to you in terms of beauty, intelligence, similar menus in your proposed rate?  As others have said, location has a lot to do with what rate you can earn.  The other big factor is experience.  If you are just starting out in the  P4P arena and have few if any reviews, you will find it very difficult to command $$$$$ / hour regardless of where you live.  This magnifies if the reviews are not stellar.  

What is a high end client?

Yes I do get along with most and that sounds like a fitting strategy for me to have repeats I guess the point of doing a meet and greet is to prevent that scenario of anyone changing their mind from happening and not waste time. What is another way to see if there's chemistry without meeting ahead of time? I consider it as part of my pre-screen.

Swim ~  

San Diego

Yikes that's a good point and scary! What I'm actually saying is that I want even more pre-screening. What's an alternative way that is not so risky? Hmmm you bring up a good point, perhaps I need to raise the rate

Thanks for the input  

This last line: If your rule was that only after meeting me would you decide to take me on as a client I wouldn't be interested. I wouldn't want to audition for the right to pay for an hour of your time.  Reminds me of a saying I have read here often, I will beg for pussy, I will pay for pussy. I will not beg to pay for pussy.

The talk on this board is usually lighter than on the other boards.  

Extended written correspondence might help you determine if you want to see a guy - ask them to say a little about themselves (in general terms).  If you are on P411, look at their profile.  Also, you can have an age min and/or max, if you think that might help tilt the odds more in your favor (in relative terms) re potential chemistry.  Sure a guy might not like it if you refuse a session based on any of these, but that is MUCH better than being refused after an in-person meeting.

Well put xyz23.

Agreed, which means at 500 in NYC she would be average priced, not high. I was 1k in New Orleans and on the panhandle... that was freaking crazy high lol. How often did I get it? 2-3 times a MONTH lol. If you are the only high end gal around, you have a niche market so if she wants to stand out in another market, all that has to be considered. The LAST thing she wants to do is price herself in that "average joe" market, because then she is trying to compete with thousands of women for the same guys, and most are on review boards.  

Based on what you've described, it sounds like you might want to look into Sugar Baby/Sugar Daddy relationships. This would give you the ability to do a dinner or two to see if you "click" and you can be upfront about your financial needs.

Thank you JGS - yes I can see how it would seem pretentious. Words can't really convey the totality of a person so my website should do a better job of that. I wish I had an old friend on these forums!! Lol thanks fr the down to earth advice. It's fun crafting an approach and everyone has been really helpful. Yes - I want people to experience luxury. A luxury experience.

High end client to me is someone for who they make $500 in one or 2 hours of their time. So, it's not a lot of money for them. And not drug dealers!!

I really appreciate you breaking the numbers down like that. Thank you!

Wow - those are great rates. Yes I don't want to have average rates. Good suggestion on pre-screens.

Rad-io ~ and I would reassure you that it isn't personal and ask you why you want to make yourself feel bad? I believe in each person's right to follow their heart or gut. This is a great thread and I think I've come up with a strategy where nobody's time is wasted and both people have freedom... Thank you

Even tho' your prose intrigues me, I need to see pictures and TER reviews.  And a trip to west coast!

Thanks keystone - yes, I've seen some nice websites out there

That's very sweet . ~ V

Those websites are crappy! There's not a review process... I'm registered on one of them but maybe I don't know all of them. Thanks for suggestion

At this point - would anyone be willing to give me a pre-screen *review*? I'd like to check out some of your profiles and respond to messages I've received but I can't do that until I get 1 review... Who wants to be my first ? =). If it seems unfair, I understand .. Guess I will have to wait for my first outing to respond to messages and rely on the 411 site and LinkedIn/google for pre-screen.

...a one month paid membership on TER is $30. If you purchase the VIP you have complete access to all TER  has to offer. You could read the private messages (PM's), check out reviews of others, and see what's in profiles.  

Thank you - just read the review guidelines. ~ : >

I'm in San Diego    https://sites.google.com/site/avividbeauty/

my website https://sites.google.com/site/avividbeauty/  meow

My website: https://sites.google.com/site/avividbeauty/

You have just one picture.  And it appears to be Mia Kirshner or at least identical to one on Mia Kirshner's web pages.

My goodness Relax and visit my gallery.. More pics coming...Was just using it as a stock photo...

Good suggestion about writing a disclaimer on a photo being *a good representation*. You didn't say anything about the look and feel : /
 

You guys are so sweet... Think I've got it meow thanks mr fisher, xyz, keystone, swim...

I just wanted to say thank you to you guys for being so helpful and sweet to all the newbies here  I tried to post my site here for review but I can't post it in the url box - it's considered an ad. My site is being reviewed by TER right now. You can find my site in the thread. Would love your feedback of my site if you get a chance, especially since it helped me decide what I posted there. I'm more familiar with pre-screen  

Vivid i'm sending you a PM, & I think you've got step 1 figured out

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I am a college graduate & I am street smart, but I am also debt free too!  My student loans are all paid off as well.  Do not expect $500hr with no reviews here, or sex appeal.  Sounds, like you need a suger daddy.  If you want to pay off your credit cards you may want to try being realistic $300hr would get you were you need to be quicker, than $500hr I think those would be far & few.

Mp - Great job on paying off all of your student debt - that's a huge achievement to be celebrated That said, you shouldn't compare yourself, it's not good for you. I wont be responding to your posts from now on unless they are genuinely helpful. Take care ~ V

Re: Vivid i'm sending you a PM, & I think you've got step 1 figured out

Thanks B lol

Do not post on the boards if you can not take constructive criticism!  Considering the facts that I am a VET who is well established in San Diego the city you are offering services. You should really take my advice seriously.  Your website lacks needed information, like your location for starters & the content is less at best.  You sound, like a Domme, but are not offering those services.  You will not get a great response posting fake photos, regardless if you state you resemble them.  The fact that your requesting high tributes for your time with nothing valid to prove you are who you say you are is baffling.  Since, I have been there & done that I can truly say offering a M&G at the high rate you are to see if you may have chemistry 1st is not smart for someone brand spanking new.  Your asking for trouble since you have little clue to the in's out of this adult industry.  

I've received a lot of great feedback- some positive and some negative both of which have been helpful. However, I'm not sure what the point of you writing that you've paid off all your loans - I don't know how you expect someone to respond to that. Usually when people compare themselves it's out of insecurity and seeking approval... seems like you needed recognition or approval and I gave it to you. That's good you say you help other women but your comment about sex appeal was also unhelpful and... You don't even have a clue about my sex appeal...

After reading all of Vivid's replies, I am guessing "she" is a HE. That's the main reason "she" is using fake pictures of celebrities and being rude to other providers.

The first sentence in your original post is  

All I can say is 'wow'. Kid gloves is right. If I read you right, your thing seems to be "I'm smart and attractive so I better get a $1,000 for an hour and half and if you think that includes sex, think again". Jesus, what business do you think you're getting into anyway? Perhaps a starring role in a mar motion picture and then an autograph session is more what you have in mind.

MV -

you telling me I just spent 30 fxxking minutes of my life that I will Never Get Back, reading this entire thread....and it could be a Troll Post.   and Vivid is a HE??

What a joke. I checked out your revised website. Based on the pics you posted, assuming that is actually you....ummm, how do I say this delicately....you're a little 'thick' for 5 dimes an hour sweetheart. I think your opinion of yourself is a shade higher than you might get credit for.

Your fee structure is is on crack.  First I read you want to charge $500/hr to pay for your credit card debt.  Then 1.5 hours for $1000  "play time" on a person that has no reviews, nor photos?
Granted, I went to a Land Grant University, but I know stupid math when I see it.    
One half hour and I pay you $200 for the privilege of getting the opportunity of getting turned down? And adding insult to injury, ending up paying your bar tab on top of that?       This absolutely screams      "R I P O F F     S C A M".    

I don't think TER will let me spell them out. PM me if the acronyms are not self explanatory.

The analysis is sound, business- and industry-wise.  
It also reflects real-world experience.
And it's very well articulated.
 
You may be a little defensive right now.
If I were you, I would cool off and reconsider all the sincere advice that people have given you.
Of course, you could also ignore me and everyone else at your peril.
Best of luck.