Do people ever negotiate price with a provider??

any attempt to negotiate, and they usually state so on their site, so tread carefully lest you lose any chance of seeing the person you want to be with.

I find it best to try to catch an advertized "Special" often near the end of the month...  Bills about to come in.
HOWEVER, many "Specials" turn out to be for lesser time or lesser services.  One way of keeping costs down is to repeat with Favorite ladies & when their donation increases often they'll "Grandfather" existing clients.  

I have to recommend against "Negociating" with the ladies who are independant business persons.  They set their prices based on their market demand, their availability to work & their need for cash flow.  For instance, a co-ed or a Mom might have very limited hours available & if she's hot with good pictures can earn enough in very few hours.  Someone with higher cash needs might need to work more hours.  If the provider prices her services too high, the market quickly lets her know.  (Some gals I am cordial with have been so honest as to tell me of their forays into price structure.)  
Asking for lower prices puts her in a bad frame of mind & even if she agrees I think the services suffer for it.  And attitude is everything in this hobby.

Someone I've never met before and has no idea how my sessions are, its insulting for him to offer or ask for less than my already low rate.

Someone I have seen before and see on a fairly regular basis,  I might work with if he is honest and says something like "money is tight this month but I could really use your services"  - him I might very well work out some sort of arrangement with for that one session.

Nothing turns me off faster is a gent I have never met asking if I will lower my rates.Or they lay out all of these plans dinner,show,etc. and then want to know what my rate is for private time and off the clock for the dinner and show.Nope,I do not think so!That is what a dinner date rate is for if a guy cannot pay a certain providers rates move on to someone in your price range.I think it is very disrespectful to contact a provider spend the time researching her just to contact her and ask to negotiate rates.
The few times this has happened to me these guys are on my personal do not see list I will never see them I will not even respond if there is future appt requests.
There are too many providers in every price range you can think of so my advice do not even hint about negotiations unless you do not want to see her.

I second Naomi, someone I have never met with before, I find disrespectful for them to try to negotiate my rates. Someone I see on a regular basis might have something going on and might not have as much money to play with this week...I will most likely work something out with him for that 1 session.

I wouldn't negotiate with anyone I haven't seen...someone that I have seen before...yeah but it depends all on the situation at the time...for newbies NO NOT EVER will you see that happen with me...

you should try negotiating with a provider...see what you get...she will probably just stop talking or just forget you altogether! Most providers, not all, but most do not negotiate donations...if she does its because you checked out OK in her book...but I highly recommend not even attempting that question! Specially if it is someone that you really want to see...because she probably will not see you after that...it's more of a insult to try and negotiate the donations!

Hope this doesn't offend anyone LOL..."if your that tight.. maybe you should find another hobby" just saying!!!! LOL

Good luck
XoXo
Ragan

Now, I know that notion my upset some of the providers and the hobbyists here who constantly suck up to them to curry favor but the fact is that is indeed a buyer's market in this hobby!  Accordingly, anyone can get as huffy as the want about it but the fact is if done respectfully, there should be no harm in asking.  And if the girl cops the "I'm so offended by that, I won't see you now at my regular rate" attitude, oh well.  That, frankly, is all I needed to know, anyway!  If that's your attitude about entering into what is clearly a business transaction, it's quite probable that the rest of your attitude will be equally as poor!  

I will also note that I have been both friends with and involved with a number of girls in this business and the true professionals see such negotiations as just part of the business.  They know what their bottom line is and as long as you're respectful about your inquiries, will let you know what that is!

Sure, no harm in asking. I always reply with would youm like a reduction in time or services? Or simply that dollar amount will get this much time. If they agree to that level of fairness I have no problem seeing them.

Nine times out of ten, I am expected to do everything I would, including the same amount of time for my normal rate. Most times stuff that is on sale in the retail world is not the top of the line merchandise for the most part, so if you want sale prices you get sale merchandise.

These guys generally don't come back and if they do they will want that lower price. Then you have all these bargain hunters for hobbyists. I have not had to lower anything since 2008 when the shit storm hit. So it might be a buyers market, I guess I am getting the non bargain hunter type clients.



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I charge x rate. If I get a guy who is an easy client I will often surprise him on the next visit by refunding some of the money and letting him know that is now his special rate. He does not have to know the real reason why, well I tell him it's because I like him, which I do, but it's really because he is very easy and I reward for easy.

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...It is a buyers market in that there is someone out there for everyone at all price points. No need to negotiate with any particular provider simply choose the providers that are at your donation level. See the ladies that want the donation you are willing to pay. If a particular provider is wanting too much the market will adjust it for her. She won't have as much business. However at her point she may have all the business she wants in which case she won't miss your business and you won't miss her because there are others out there in your range.

I don't negotiate. Because there is no need to negotiate. I can simply see someone else if I think a provider wants too much. Unless you're wanting a time period or service that she hasn't already listed a donation for there is no need to. There aren't very many businesses out there where negotiating is the norm. Yes, negotiating is acceptable in the car business but they just jack up the price expecting negotiation. The providers don't do that. They set their donation amount and you go where it suites you.

I have seen in this very thread where some providers don't mind discussing donation after there is a relationship established. So you point about "respectfully done" is well taken but only in certain circumstances.

...and as always in this business, YMMV. Any two people can come to whatever arrangement suites them without it becoming the norm for all.

But I don't think any providers would actually appreciate this being posted, and I have to respect that.

Providers DO cut side deals all the time, but it's supposed to be UTR, and should remain that way.

And...it is a buyer's market right now.  But not for everyone.  For the really high-end...it isn't.  For affordable luxury (the girls who used to get top dollar but really can't compete there now), there are a lot of side deals being cut.

It has been my experience that first time clients who try to bargain on rate are invariably problem clients in general, far beyond just looking to cut a deal. They bring an arrogance and sense of entitlement to the session that makes their company truly repugnant. I will pass on that business without a second thought.  And no, I don't take Val-Pak coupons or validate parking.

You refund $$ later?!? Sure, buddy! And by we, I refer to my friend who's an escort who was even more amued and more skeptical about that than I! And as she pointed out, if it's not bullshit, it's goofy! If they're coming back at your regular rate, why the rebate, Madam I Don't Negotiate? She also noted that it's interesting that this is coming from somebody with no reviews. Business must be booming!

while you are counting up those reviews, take a look at the rates and just how different they are. That should tell you that not every hooker here needs YOUR money, nor do many even want it lol. Just sayin. Some will  do anything for a buck if they are broke, but smart hookers are generally equipped with another income so they are not slaves to the cheapos out there, nor the bs market price.

If a provider is desperate for money, she just might give anyone and everyone a discount, and obviously certain peons prey on those types. Other providers will tell you to kindly go fk the girl at the truck stop.

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Since you want to crack on reviews though...your average pay out is less than the national average, so I can see why so many of your "friends" negotiate. They can easily fk 3 and 4 guys a day at those rates, and their vaginas seem to be able to handle the volume. Try telling the girl at a grand per hour all she has to do if fk two more guys that day and "she will make it up." See where that gets ya.

If I see a guy the first time and he is an easy client and rebooks again and operates the same way, I want to see more of him and to insure that, I give a discount. It is a nice, unexpected surprise and they are incredibly pleased when I do this. It has worked wonderfully as I get decent guys and every one of them I have done this for has become a regular. Nothing like easy money I always say.

Not unlike running a special but those who run specials end up seeing nasty little dbags who work them into the mattress, are time vampires and generally hover around waiting for ladies to run specials.

Granted it is not the norm. It works for me and since I am the one choosing whom I see, I don't care what you or your little hooker friend much think.

And one other thing, I have reviews, I just don't associate this board name with them. I see no need to. Enjoy your day.

And who's to question any provider on her business model?  I may never agree with SS or LR on a lot of things, but when it comes down to how any woman wants to run her business, I'm the last person to criticize it.

SS is really not doing much else other than effectively running a sort of frequent-flyer program, and it works.

As for her anonymity, I'll admit it's a curious point for me, too, but in the end, who cares?  The uber-visible women on this board are ones I'd likely never see anyway (too much downside if things go wrong or you get into a disagreement, and not enough upside if you do see them).  SS has a valid business model, and if it works for her, bravo.