Hey all. I have a little bit of odd situation in getting verified. I don't work on the books, so I don't have any employment info that I can give out. No, I'm not a drug dealer or anything. Just a carpenter that works for cash. I tried P411 as a way to get verified and they weren't able to approve me. I have met with a couple of providers here already and was hoping to get a referral from them. They must not be working right now though and aren't answering their phone or e-mail accounts. Cabn anyone suggest another way of getting verified? There are a couple of different providers here that I would really like to meet, but I probably won't be able to satisfy their standards for verification and have been turned down by one provider already. I know the girls need to protect themselves, but there has to be a way for a newbies in my situation to get the ball rolling, no?

I'm not sure what to tell you.  Post something on the ISO board, like 'Looking for newbie friendly providers in Philly'.  I assume that's where you are.  You might also try post ting that on the Philly board, although it will probably get moved to the ISO board.  Maybe PM some of the guys that post on the Philly board and ask if they know of any newbie friendly providers.  If P411 was not able to approve you, wow.  Did you call them?  They have a pretty good rep when it comes to verifying newbies.  Sorry, I can't be of any more help than this.

Swim

Every lady is different, but I have seen where some are willing to meet you in a public place like a coffee shop as a means to get comfortable.  You might also have to broaden your horizons a bit and find other providers who are willing to take a more verification challenge like your self and build up a network so you can get referrals and then meet your targeted gals.
Hope this helps.

I had a similar situation when I started the hobby.  My solution was to have lunch in a public place and pay her fee (reduced by prior negotiation) just for having lunch.  That established a "comfort level" which allowed our next date to go to the next level, then she verified me to one of her friends and the rest is history.  Generous tips don't hurt, either.
Good Luck!