Newbie - FAQ

What actions to take against a client?
mrfisher 115 Reviews 1141 reads
posted
1 / 24

That the person should be reported to the screeing sites (so called black lists) as a service to other providers.

He should be taken down as soon as possible.

BlaqueWonder See my TER Reviews 2383 reads
posted
2 / 24

This is the first time this has ever happened to me since I've been a provider.  A new client of mine basically didnt pay for my services rendered..I took all the precautionary measures...I screened
him and he checked out...he placed his envelope onmy dresser as instructed and he went to freshen up...I usually dont check the envelope because I have faith in my clients that they will be honest with me, since I am honest with them and make sure I fulfill my end of the deal. After our session, he got dressed, said he enjoyed himself, hugged me and left..when I went to retrieve the envelope, there was nothing there but dollar bills...Im really hurt rightn ow because I feel as though I did my best to make sure he was satisfied before he left and thats the thanks I got. I guess Im too laid back and trusting and now I have to be a bitch from now on. Now I understand why some providers act so cold to the clients. What I'd like to know is, what actions can I take against him?

swimtrekr 59 Reviews 932 reads
posted
3 / 24

you can talk about him on there.  It's important for the other girls in your area to know about him.  What he did was definitely wrong.  Don't let one asshole run your life, just be a bit more careful with the envelope.  Maybe you could tell your clients to wash their hands upon arrival and leave the envelope in the bathroom.   Then you go in and check it out before anything happens.

You could also post on your regional board, without naming him publicly, that you had a client who shortchanged you.  Say that girls who want to know who he is, to PM you, or send you an email.

Sorry that happened,
Swim

harborview 10 Reviews 726 reads
posted
4 / 24

If you must check the donation, do so.  Sorry this happened to you.  It's just not right.

hiddenhills 143 Reviews 1047 reads
posted
5 / 24

Take swim's advice, You need an opportunity to check the envelop, just don't do it in front of a client if you can. Also re evaluate your screening.

BlaqueWonder See my TER Reviews 526 reads
posted
6 / 24

Yes its definitely a hard lesson, but its a lesson to learn nonetheless..I wont be so trusting from now on....

SummerSanders 950 reads
posted
7 / 24

I trust all my clients. Until there is a reason not to. However, I try to either pick up my envelope in the bathroom or kitchen and take it with me when I freshen up. When in there I quickly glance at the money. I have not had an issue. HOWEVER, if there was an issue with the money I would weigh my safety vs. confronting the client. The $$ is not worth getting hurt. You have options once you leave your visit of blacklisting, provider forums, etc. If you feel it was just a slight mistake (not the correct amount but most likely just in error) you might just speak to the client later and try to resolve it. If it is clearly a fact that you are getting scammed you might want to try and find a way to safely leave the appointment. If you can't safely leave just remember that money is not worth getting hurt.

And yes, screen, screen, screen......

Be Safe

Summer

Sinful1 See my TER Reviews 705 reads
posted
8 / 24

And the reason so many ladies check the donation when the client washes up.  The funny thing is that, unless he was a newbie client, he had to know that he risked being found out as its common for ladies to check when the client leaves to wash up.

Ladies have been shorted a significant amount when checking the donation or found singles, white paper or even monopoly money in envelopes.  Not good, unless you have your heart set on buying Park Place, Marvin Gardens or the Reading Railroad.

If you know any ladies in your area, you can back channel info to them.  Also put a post on your local board BUT be careful and DO NOT DIVULGE ANY PERSONAL INFO.  Do not post; his name, screen name, email or phone.  Simply say:  Ladies PM me for info about a bad client (in the subject line) and then you can put what happened in the message (or you may choose not to).  Ladies often do this on my board because not all ladies have access to the POB.

Sorry this happened.  I suspect he did it because he knew you are a new provider.  No excuse.  However, he would have known there was a better than good chance of being found out with a more established/experienced lady.

TrulyMsMocha See my TER Reviews 736 reads
posted
9 / 24

.... this is an intimate business and can be a very fun one BUT it is a business all the same....treat it like one.

-- Modified on 12/5/2011 1:44:37 PM

castiron 831 reads
posted
10 / 24

Really sorry that happened to you.

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 1328 reads
posted
11 / 24

...the envelop.  He took a big chance as a new client since he did not know your procedure regarding the envelop.  He must have been prepared in case you did check and then confronted him.  He might have accused you of switching the hundreds for ones.  It could have gotten ugly.

I agree with Chgo CPA - I never use an envelop.  It's ridiculous.  Does it make the activity less illegal?  Does it make P4P "classier?"  Learn from this experience - with new clients, don't use an envelop and check the amount beforehand.

SirWilliam00 16 Reviews 1103 reads
posted
12 / 24

Posted By: BlaqueWonder
...I usually dont check the envelope because I have faith in my clients that they will be honest with me, since I am honest with them and make sure I fulfill my end of the deal...
That's very nice of you, but I have to say that seeing anyone for the first time as a client I honestly expect them to check on the payment I am giving them and it would not make me think you didn't trust me to count or check on the money.

Perhaps you could take the middle ground and just glance to make sure there's roughly the right currency there (20's/100's instead of 1's) and trust the exact amount to them being honest.

harborview 10 Reviews 859 reads
posted
13 / 24

but I know some do...  it is a product of their experience.  It's nicer to take the donation elsewhere to verify it's correctness...  but you are still going to have to confront the creep.  He'll probably say, "Wrong envolupe" or some other BS excuse.  If you are going to be so forward, then you might as well remove the donation from the room as some do.  There are lots of scams in both directions...  You can only prevent some of them.

czcodger 5 Reviews 600 reads
posted
14 / 24

When a client is a repeat, you would have developed some feel for his honesty. You will work hard for your money during a session. Don't get cheated.

czcodger 5 Reviews 853 reads
posted
15 / 24

If there is a problem with the money, she should dress, take her key, go to the door, open it and step outside while holding the door open and tell the ass that if he does not leave she will call security.

And as soon as possible, blacklist him.

Dr Who revived 1707 reads
posted
16 / 24

I never use them and haven't had a gal who had an issue with this method whatsoever.

They are of NO legal safety to you or John.

And it should be fairly easy to eyeball the donation...but frankly if he has it "clipped" don't hesitate to unclip and scan for the correct donation...err gift...or payment :)

anotherViewPoint 1088 reads
posted
17 / 24

You might want to contact him and let him know about his mistake and ask him to pay the fee. Let him know what penalty is for not paying up (being put on a DNS list, etc).

MyOwnAlias 760 reads
posted
18 / 24

join the PO Board if you don't know which ones to use.

But seriously - blacklist the asshole so he may not get away with it next time.

And tell the girls who gave you the references that he did it.

keystonekid 114 Reviews 786 reads
posted
19 / 24

other providers don't get scamed as well.

Learn several strategies to check the envelope without him watching.  You could ask him to leave the envelope in the restroom and then you go and wash your hands or he leaves the envelope on table and you ask him to go and wash his hands in the restroom.  While I understand the need to verify the cash, to count in front of him is tacky.

harborview 10 Reviews 662 reads
posted
20 / 24

I make sure the donation is right, put a paper clip on it & carry in my key pocket (varies with the clothing of the season)...  the key pocket is so I could not possibly drive off with the donation by accident.    
In the bedroom, I empty my pockets just as I do at home (this way nothing falls out & is lost while dressing... ) on the dresser next to my clothes.  The donation is obiviously there.  When I re-dress, my stuff retrieved, the donation is silently left behind.  In the back & forth of dressing & bathroom use, typically the donation will disappear...   though sometimes it has not before I leave.  Once, I had a young provider...  I'd not seen her in a while...  swoop in to pick it up before I was finished dressing.

drkien 2 Reviews 1350 reads
posted
21 / 24

ladies do you mind if the donation is not in an envelope? Seems so much more open and up front.

hound_dog69 41 Reviews 1617 reads
posted
22 / 24

Empty pockets on arrival (my wallet is in the car) and pick everything up, sans donation, on my way out.

It is nice that you want to have the GFE extend this far, but by CHOOSING to not check the envelope first, you must take some responsibility for the risk. I am not saying it's your fault, and the guy is a creep, but there is always a risk, and your choice to not check is on you.

There is no need to be crass or rude, but in my case, I always take a quick shower to scrub the important parts for, shall I say - snack time. There is nothing wrong with checking the donation while they clean up. If you're "caught" checking the envelope and they get bent out of shape, that is their choice. Some may leave in a huff, but I say that if they do this - you did not want them as a client.

Your money is gone. But for a thief, I don't think anybody here would question your chosen course of action. At a MINIMUM I would suggest getting his information out privately to the other ladies. Either via the PO board, or they can email you for his info. Anything more than that is up to you.

Good luck and be safe.

Crazy Diamond 12 Reviews 887 reads
posted
23 / 24

Ripping someone off who has a photo of you is not very bright.  Presumably even more damaging if she includes that with her blacklisting.

impposter 49 Reviews 1751 reads
posted
24 / 24

I have no problem with someone checking. That puts HER at ease and makes for a better experience. I mean, there are clock watchers (bad) and I suppose there are envelope watchers who can barely wait to see what's inside (never had one but that would be bad).

But there is also a matter of technique to put ME at ease. It can be discreet. It shouldn't be TOO obvious. It shouldn't say "I don't trust you so I'm checking this IN YOUR FACE now."

I would get a big laugh if someone pulled out a visor, sleeve protectors and adding machine (I didn't say calculator) [picture Uncle Billy counting the money at the end of It's a Wonderful Life] and made sure that everything was in order before removing the cuffs, the visor ... and everything else.

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