Absolutely agree with ChgCPA (who doesn't?). Get everything agreed on up front.
HaveAGoodTime, maybe you're one of those guys who can actually give providers multiple O's. In that case she might be willing to drop her rates after the experience. If not, she'll likely insist on the outcall rate. If you don't pay it, she can blacklist you, and for pretty good cause. She has her outcall rate posted on her site. I emailed her yesterday asking for clarification. If I don't hear from her by Wednesday, there's another provider (hot-bodied 20-something) who's asking me what day I want to meet. And there's another after that. Then another. I wish I had money for all this. ;The other day I contacted a provider through her website, using the form. Put in my references, name, etc.
Her assistant emailed me, said everything is fine, and asked what date I wanted. I gave her a date, but said I was open to any date.
She emailed back to say that the provider is moving out of her current incall location to a new one, and may not be moved by our arranged date. So, she would be coming to my hotel. This sounds to me like an outcall, and she charges 25% more for outcall.
I didn't want to broach the subject of money in an email. A veteran member of this forum whose opinion I respect said that her rates were on her website, so go ahead and ask if she's going to charge incall or outcall rates.
The provider contacted me via email, and I replied back immediately, asking if this would be an incall or outcall based upon the donation page of her site. She didn't reply back yet. I know it's probably too soon, but I'm just wondering if this is the right way to go about it. I can't think of any other way.
It seems a lot easier to just meet on street corners. 
You politely asked via email - no harm, I guess...
But if I were you, I would be prepared to fork over the extra 25%. As soon as you agreed to her visiting you it became an outcall.
p.s. Street corners are way too cold nowadays in the Northeast... No way, Josephina..
But if I were you, I would be prepared to fork over the extra 25%. As soon as you agreed to her visiting you it became an outcall.
p.s. Street corners are way too cold nowadays in the Northeast... No way, Josephina...
You said your schedule was open, you got approval then; "She emailed back to say that the provider is moving out of her current incall location to a new one, and may not be moved by our arranged date. So, she would be coming to my hotel. This sounds to me like an outcall, and she charges 25% more for outcall."
This is not the best way to do business. You should have been given the option of doing incall (what you requested) at an earlier or later date. Your schedule wasn't the problem. If that wasn't a possibility the option should have been yours to request outcall. Waiving the 25% fee would have been a nice touch as well. How much were you going to originally spend?
You should ALWAYS be able to inquire about rates as long as you don't mention sex acts.
Sounds to me the provider wants that 25%. Unless you were willing to pay that much more right from the start, let her know you would like to pay the original fee, and expect to be cancelled. Don't MOST providers charge MORE for incall, since they have to pay for a room? Unless you are a long distance from her, why charge more for outcall?
Wait until she gets moved in
Reasons we charge more for outcall:
1) it's not our place. We don't have all our stuff, we have to pack a bag, walk past everyone in our "hookerish but not to hookerish" gear then walk back by with our hair all fucked up, we don't know if you've got a camera hidden, we don't know if you've got a friend there, we don't know if you are a cop, etc etc. With an incall, we have complete control of our space. With outcall, we are walking into the unknown.
2) parking and finding the place. Holy mother of god can that be a pain in the ass, cause delays, and in some places, cost quite a bit. I have been made late on more than one occasion by a difficult parking situation. As men often act like their boner is more important than president Obama birthing a child himself, most aren't very impressed by this.
3) TIME. It takes, on average, an hour round trip for an outcall. If its close. Everything said and done, it's often closer to an hour and a half. That's an hour that we are not being paid for, aren't comfortable, aren't able to handle business, and aren't able to be getting ready for our next appointment. We are driving around, dealing with traffic, trying to find our way, trying to be on time, getting lost, worrying about our hair, can't have a smoke cause we wouldn't be able to brush our teeth, trying not to text while driving, etc. in the time it takes me to deal with an outcall, I could have made $700. Instead, I'm pissed off in traffic and unable to smoke about it.
4) we probably already spent about $150 on a perfectly good hotel.
Outcalls are inconvenient and time consuming, basically. That's why most girls actually charge more, and many have a higher minimum appointment time.
...and TER profiles. I have seen a few charge the same for out call (very few) but none charging less.
Just to be clear out call is when she comes to you. In call you go to her.
(I'm sure you know that but based on you response I wanted no uncertainty.)
I have seen a couple charge more for incall if they need to get a hotel it most do not ... Maybe its our area lol
I have seen many websites where providers charge more for incalls, and many where they charge more for outcalls, some charge the same, some are incall only, and some are outcall only. There are all kinds of business models here. I also think joebanzai is wrong in saying "most" providers charge more for incall. As brilove said, it could be a regional thing.
...attention to what's happening outside of my area. If the lady is more than an hour away I pass. Occasionally I'll look at the site of one of the posting providers on the General Discussion board. I do check my regional ad board though and the touring ladies ads. That covers the extent of my observations.
You seem to be having the worst luck meeting chicks here... I have an assistant and while she loves to have my forms completed she also loves to talk to clients on the phone, she is just a bit old school like me because to her, she needs to communicate and clarify everything right away (incall or outcall, screening info etc.). Emails afford us the possibility to avoid endless conversations but if you are serious about scheduling a date talking on the phone may be beneficial instead of waiting pondering a,b,c....z possibilities of why these ladies are not getting back to you...I know that not everyone has a phone line but some do and would appreciate a straight forward booking scenario like the one you offer.. Just some food for thought...
They don't have phones. Hell, the provider I saw monthly this year has a cell phone but never talks to me on it. She texts. When she feels like it. Even if I don't have a confirmation of our date.
Yeah, I'm not having a lot of luck. A provider I contacted through her website form never got back to me. I figured I was too old. I sent her an email today asking her to just let me know if she got the form. Lo and behold, she emailed me to say she received the form and asked when I'd like to meet.
I'm not used to this lack of professionalism in any business.
Oh, yeah. I forgot. The assistant to the second provider I mentioned uses the phone, but she's Russian. I can't understand a word she says. For all I know she's giving me Vladmir Putin's address.
Even under adverse circumstances.. I am sure eventually you will meet a nice girl.. If not.. You are welcome to come to Florida and meet me 
If only everyone could feel comfortable doing so. Sigh... Half my life is spent screening. \
Instead of hiring someone to handle it, I chose not to risk sharing personal info. with third parties, but I understand why some do. It can be a daunting process.
Be safe,
You should state that you prefer an incall either before or after the move otherwise if you take an outcall you should pay the outcall rate. Would it be cool if she offered the incall rate instead of the outcall ... Yes but should she ... Not necessarily .... Just because we aren't available for incall and outcall at all hours and everyday does not required a discount because the timing is off ... Just request an incall for another time.
As far as why the extra charge for outcall or why she didn't just get a hotel ... Many providers have one or more incall locations and pay a much cheaper rate per month than if they booked at hotels. Outcalls are often farther away than a providers incall and going into an outcall (your house, upscale condo, hotel) take some planning for dress and parking plus directions or GPS ... So the time involved for an outcall is much more consuming thus the extra charge. I do both incall and outcall but I charge the same since for me they are basically a wash.
Thanks, brilove (and others). My hotel (Radisson) would be fine with me (it has huge mirrors in every room), but it's a hassle for me to have someone come to me.
Her incall rate is $950 for two hours, and outcall is $1200. I really don't want to pay $250 to have her come to my hotel, plus have to pay for a second night at the hotel (afternoon meeting).
If she doesn't want to do an incall rate for this date, I'll just tell her we can reschedule to a time when her new digs are ready.
HOLY $HIT! $250.00 extra for outcall. How much is parking these days? FORGET THAT. She is just trying to cash in!
You MUST be talking about a super hot woman if you are considering $600.00 an hour for sex at your place. Brilove is really hot and will rock your world for a LOT less. Shop around man! Is this gal a porn star or something?
Guess it also depends on where you are, and how wealthy you are.
I wish I had so many problems with parking and bed hair that I could charge $250.00 for a trip to the Radisson
is to give the impression of being a haggler. I'm sure you were careful in you reply that you are simply asking for clarification, but treat lightly when it comes to money talk. The best time to discuss any uncertainties is at the end of the appointment if all has gone well - you'll both be in the most forgiving frame-of-minds.
I'll guess that you haven't been doing this terribly long. Most gals like their money paid at the beginning of a session. NOT after it's over LOL
Best to make crystal clear what the deal is BEFORE any session. Why have a situation that could get nasty afterwards? Unless you like to have a gal go BSC when she perceives she's been shorted LOL
No shit - ALL gals want their money at the beginning of the session, and pay what she expects, obviously. What I was alluding to, which is a whole other bag of worms, is that if you want to discuss her rates, wait until you've had a good time together first.
The OP wasn't alluding to a one hour 250-300 gal....He is suggesting a HDH that is at 1k for a couple of hours.
Honestly...I've yet to pay rack rates for a multi-hour session...let alone pay for travel.
Often times this is a one and done. If it turns into seeing her more often then it is a given that the fella will work the deal to his satisfaction. The gals generally will also play along.
Give it a shot stud...the worst any gal will do is ignore you. Hasn't happened to me in over 30 years in P4P...must be my charm LOL
Absolutely agree with ChgCPA (who doesn't?). Get everything agreed on up front.
HaveAGoodTime, maybe you're one of those guys who can actually give providers multiple O's. In that case she might be willing to drop her rates after the experience. If not, she'll likely insist on the outcall rate. If you don't pay it, she can blacklist you, and for pretty good cause. She has her outcall rate posted on her site.
I emailed her yesterday asking for clarification. If I don't hear from her by Wednesday, there's another provider (hot-bodied 20-something) who's asking me what day I want to meet. And there's another after that. Then another.
I wish I had money for all this. ;