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why do they ask for an ID?
coolguy88 8084 reads
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Many providers and agencies ask to see an ID. I don't see how that protects them. I would think they want to protect themselves from LE or from dangerous clients. But either of those entities can show an ID and it doesn't give them away. I respect providers need for security, but what security does a drivers license give them?

ps: I realize some ask for your work number, etc but that's a different story.

basically...just to verify who you are....because with certain backround checks available...you can actually tell...anything about a person...or to match info given...as job number or whatever...screening method given...hopr this helps
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...the devil is in the details.  A check of the ID, can help see if if the facts in evidence match the backstory.  I recently visited an agency gal while visiting Seattle.  I had let the agency know that I was visiting from Arizona, so one of her first requessts from me was to show her my AZ drivers license.

OK, so smart LE, and even smarter jerks can be prepared to meet this request, so it is not a sure form of protection for the provider.  However, it is often a source of comfort for her.  If it is a coice of her glancing at my DL, or her walking out the door, you can be sure what I am doing!!!

Verification process is more than just showing the driver's license, that, in combination with other means of determining who you actually are, simply helps complete info needed.

We ask for ID because we want to make sure that it is you we are actually seeing.  I have had a few instances where someone will use a friends work info (sometimes with and sometimes without their permission) to get verified and then show up for the apt. some have even done this with references.   If I didn't ask for ID I would have had no way of knowing what the deal was. We are not only seeking protection from LE but whackos.  Although it is to a point a false sense of security (some ladies have had well known clients go whacko) it does allow a certain comfort level so that you receive the kind of service you expect and deserve.
It is just the final step in most screening procedures.  It doesn't protect us from LE but it does make some ladies more comfortable.
Hope that helps :)

Thanks for the reply. I appreciate the dialogue.  But I still don't understand it. In the examples that you gave, what harm is done by the guy giving his colleagues info and showing up? If he's a nice guy, then he's a nice guy, no matter what his name is. Whackos have IDs just like normal people. They often have jobs too. I totally understand and want the ladies to be comfortable. But my feeling is that it is a false sense of comfort, at significant loss of comfort to the hobbyist. The risks of loss of confidentality, by intentional or unintentional causes, is a real one to the hobbyist, highlighted by recent busts with confiscation of databases and records.

or agencies not ask for ID. How can they be sure that a guy that gives a colleague's work inform is in fact safe to see? If misuse of the information was the concern of the guy, would giving his coworker's information make the coworker any less a victim if the information was misused? Whackos have IDs, but should a lady not attempt to screen them out? If a lady or agency are on top of their gane, they may miss avoiding new whackos, but never known ones. The issue with LE getting files with client's names during busts is due to sloppiness by the provider or agency. Good independents and agencies do not keep the information longer than needed for the appointment. Exceptional agencies and independents remember, to a large extent, who their good clients are and who is to not be given a second visit.

foo9576 reads

If the screening is done by references, the lady has to be reasonably sure that the guy is the one described in those references.

If the screening is done by work info, the lady has to be reasonbly sure that the guy is the one who really works at that particular place.  It's rather morbid, but knowing for certain who the guy is can at least provide a place for the police to start, if the guy turns out to be violent.

As for the risks of confidentiality, we should be weighing those against the physical risks taken by the provider.  Remember, the average woman is weaker than the average man, so there's a danger of getting overpowered.  And bringing a weapon into the room isn't a very good idea, because that crazy guy has a good chance of getting to it before the lady can use it.

-- Modified on 7/21/2005 2:50:02 AM

coolguy887227 reads

Thanks for the reply. I appreciate the dialogue.  But I still don't understand it. In the examples that you gave, what harm is done by the guy giving his colleagues info and showing up? If he's a nice guy, then he's a nice guy, no matter what his name is. Whackos have IDs just like normal people. They often have jobs too. I totally understand and want the ladies to be comfortable. But my feeling is that it is a false sense of comfort, at significant loss of comfort to the hobbyist. The risks of loss of confidentality, by intentional or unintentional causes, is a real one to the hobbyist, highlighted by recent busts with confiscation of databases and records.

I've never once been asked to show I.D. but I've got a naive wholesomeness about me (blush) but that's only because I'm naive & wholesome, except for my participation in this hobby... lol

-- Modified on 7/16/2005 9:35:15 AM

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