Okay, I've read a TON of posts on this newbie board, but even after that, I still don't have a clear understanding of how to avoid entanglements with the cops.  There are a whole lot of posts that say "you gotta be careful" and "you gotta do an LE check," but they really don't go into detail.

I've got two dates scheduled for next week.  Both of my dates are outcall in a hotel room that I rented.  What is the best way to avoid trouble?  Specifically.

Couple of bonus questions:

(1)  What's to prevent an LE decoy from posting a listing on TER?
(2)  How do I know the reviews on TER aren't from cops?
(3)  Is the info on pricing on TER accurate or can girls be negotiated with without being offended?  Seems also like negotiating price prior to activity would also create exposure for a LE bust.
(4)  What's with providers creating websites with rather descriptive menus and prices!?  I have seen one with pictures of the lady (without any blocking of her face), a listed price of $250 per hour (including a "second pop"), AND a list of all the stuff she'll do (BBBJ, CIM, etc).  Seems like this would attract a hell of a lot of LE attention.  Jesus!

Thanks in advance for any info.

KingJohnson "The Noob"

1) Nothing prevents LE from posting ads.  The best way to avoid trouble is to limit your choices only to those ladies have a good track record, meaning the more good reviews, the better.  Having some from established TER members is even better.  2) See my respsonse to question #1.  3) Assume prices in the ladies profile here on TER  (or her website) are accurate, and not subject to negotiation.  If you can't afford it, move on, and look for ladies that are within your price range.  You'll find them.  4)  Apply your own judgment when viewing websites, reviews, etc.  If there is anything there that makes you uncomfortable, best you move on.

Hope this helps!

When talking to a provider first do research on them. Look at old ads  to see how long they've been out, and what cities they have vistied.  A provider who has old ads posted in other cities is  99.99% legit, because LE won't take that much time to post all over the country.

LE usually goes for the quick hits.

1/2. Chances are LE does post fake ads TER, so you being a newbie, I would only selected providers who have a long history of a reviews, that date back a couple of months, and maybe even a year or so. I would check out the hobbist who review the providers and see how long they have been doing reviews.  If possible you can e-mail, and ask a few questions about the provider.

Wouldn't go for a provider who has one single review, and you can't find any history on her. Google her, name e-mail address, and phone number and see what you get.

3. The pricing may be different in cities at certain times of the year. Proivders I've spoken to.....say they can charge 400 an hour in new york, and boston and guys will be lined up at the door. Where the same girls will charge 200 for the same hour in Baltimore or DC. The pricing has a lot to do with how things are at the time too. if it's slow they lower the prices, if it's fast the prices go up.

Most legit and smart providers won't talk about money over the phone, or in person until they have done an LE check for themself. If someone gets deep into talking about services, and money, She's either LE or young and dumb.

4. With websites I would look into how it's made. If it's a cheap thrown together website then that might be a red flag. But if you can tell someone spent money on this then 99.99 it's legit.  LE goes for the quick hits, and try not to spend too much money.

Dude, the cops might do anything, but its very very unlikely a Cop bait girl will have a history, either on TER or just adds on Backpage or where-ever.  Think about it, they open a phony profile and bust 10 guys who show up at the hotel room day one....repeat day two....what's the liklihood that this one profile wouldn't get exposed?  And why would they bother, just set up a new one each day/sting, it only costs them the cost of a new disposable phone.  When I got busted, the add was down by the time I was released and checked for it.

Also, no guarantees, but:  Cops less likely to send bait girls to an Outcall then to have them do Incall.  Incall allows them to set everything up the way they like it, make sure the lady cop is safe, efficient use of manpower to nab multiple Johns in one net showing to one room. Why send a girl, her takedown squad back up, etc, all drawing OT on the clock and taking up multiple vehicles, out to bust one lone John on a misdemeanor in his hotel room?  It would be like picking one car on the road to follow home to see if he speeds...not an efficient way to rack up arrests for a low level crime.  they want deterrance and hi volume.  

Also, no guarantees, but:  Lady cops are very unlikely to have long chatty ads, to have multiple pics showing faces and naughty bits, to have changing pics over time.  Also, unlikely to display paranoia about you being a cop...last thing they want is to get you focused on the idea COP.  Also, unlikely to have even a history of ads in one day, am thru pm, or offer 24-7 service.  Cops work shifts, and get OT, and they don't want to wait on some guy to call for a 7am or 4 am apt...you're not the Medalin drug cartel, you're just one of mult Johns they want to round up in a quick Sting.

COPS signs:  asks you what you want on the phone or in person (by the time its in person, too late, no way to avoid being busted).  Price too good to be true.  Pics that show neither face not the good parts.  NO HISTORY ANYWHERE.

OMG! I'm moving in to my 4th week, 6 sessions down and all of them Incall .... and not once did I even think about the provider being LE when I got to the apartment/townhome. I have only seen Providers with multiple reviews, and have at least talked with and/or texted them multiple times before actually seeing them. And I am only selecting Providers from TER and P411. Is there anything I can do to screen them any more than I'm already doing? Last thing I need, and any of us for that matter, is making that one call and then explaining why we were in the pokie.

Spot on.

Thanks for the info from all who replied.  I had two dates this weekend and one no-show.  I'm starting to figure out how this works (by trial and error, and with a lot of help from TER).

I am still a little concerned with the level of detail some gals and agencies are putting on the web (ex: putting up nude pics and detailed pricing and activity information).  I get that it's helpful for customers, but it also eliminates plausible deniability for customers.  If busted by the cops, it would be easier to say one was meeting a gal for dinner or a massage if her website didn't explicitly say she offers BBBJ and CIM at $400 per hour.  LOL!  Oh well, I guess I should just be happy I've had some fabulous times and more are in store.

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King Johnson
“If you think hiring professionals is expensive, try hiring amateurs”