Just a heads up I've gotten wind from some "friends" that LE are trying to use Facebook to be used as a credential. I may be stating the obvious to some but obviously it's nothing wrong with a heads up. A few of my " friends" have told me a guy will contact them pretending to be either on being self employed or in grad school so they don't have verifiable work info. When asked if a member of a verification site they will say they are new or have only used BP randomly.  But will give you his license, phone and email. Obviously, this smells bad. Beware...luckily none of my "friends" have fell for this. I know a while back I heard something similar happen to a girl and she ended up being stung by LE! But it hit home for me, after hearing from friends then receiving a email about a appointment from someone doing this exact same thing. Ladies and gents use your gut! To everyone use verification sites.

Women who use social media sites to promote an illegal business, should really think again about doing that. Those sites are the first to hand over your IP address when the cops ask...other sites really don't have to do that, especially when housed outside of the U.S.

...saying maybe Facebook or some such could be alternative screening tool. I had to just shake my head and think WTF!!  

...and here it is. (see the link)

Social media and the hobby have no business being mixed. I am slack jawed at the people I see using it.

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It's all a matter of being smart enough to know what to look for.  Very easy to verify who someone is and that they are legit.

If you are simply looking to verify that the name that a gent gave is indeed on Facebook or LinkedIn then no, obviously that isn't screening.  If you are digging deeper then that and making connections that would be quite difficult for someone to "fake" then it's a rather fool-proof method.

So it does work for SOME providers in SOME circumstances.

It also works for SOME gents who desire to be screened.  

A lot of "hobbyists" here on TER are very quick to offer up the advice of "NEVER EVER EVER GIVE HER YOUR NAME" and go on to recommend P411, Date-Check, provider references, etc, etc.  The sheer fact of the matter is that not every woman will accept 3rd party verifications.  Many women in this industry will only see you if you provide verifiable "real-life" information.  It doesn't mean that that woman is "up to something" which is so commonly the message that can be inferred from reading a lot of newbie threads.  What about the newbie gent who wants to see one of the ladies that require personal information?  Should they just mark her off of the list because the feedback they get here tells them to NEVER EVER provide that information?

 
.The only tried and true advice for both clients, prospective clients and providers in this industry is to do what makes you feel comfortable.  

Hobbyists: if you want to see a woman then do what she tells you to do for screening.  If she is well reviewed or has a good reputation and has been around for a while then there is no reason for you to feel any less safe giving her your information and going to visit with her then you should feel when you don't give a provider your real information and go to visit with her.  

Providers:  as far as screening goes, it's my opinion that everyone should screen in the fashion that makes them comfortable.  If 3rd party sites like TER, DC, P411 etc make you feel comfortable then by all means use that.  If having someones full name, employment, etc. makes you feel most comfortable then do that.  

If law enforcement wants to meet me, you or any of us then they will.  And no amount of screening is going to protect you from that.  It is well documented that law enforcement have used fake LinkedIn accounts and Facebook accounts in effort to be screened.  It is well documented that law enforcement have infiltrated DC, P411 and TER in efforts to be screened.  It is well documented that law enforcement have obtained employer references from legitimate national companies in an effort to be screened.

Bottom line is to do what makes you feel comfortable but don't discredit what others do and what works for them because it isn't what you would do!

I agree with everything you said, BUT you miss that there are MINORS on social media sites with no disclaimer telling them there are half naked hookers on there promoting their ass. THAT is why LE cracks down on sites like that more than they do on sites like TER and P411. Yes, a cop can have an account on any board around regardless, but that does not mean that using a site where CHILDREN are playing is a smart move for an adult...especially an adult promoting an illegal activity.  

As an added screening tool, sure you can go to a guy's facebook and see his photos, his wife, and his kids, but why he would be dumb enough to give that info. out, is beyond me. I certainly don't want to see a guy's wife and children right before I take money to fk him.  

Can't wait til the coke dealers start having linkedin accounts...that will be great for business, I bet.

I fail to see where anyone was talking about providers promoting themselves on social media.  I mentioned social media in a below post as an idea for screening to a newbie who believed he was going to have difficulties being screened by a traditional employment verification.  The OP was about cops setting up Facebook accounts as a tool to be "screened" and meet with providers.  I agree that social media probably isn't the best place for providers to be advertising.  However if a provider if using Facebook or LinkedIn to advertise their escort services then so be it.  Who am I or any of us to judge?

If you are viewing a gents Facebook page for screening and are looking at the photos of his wife and children, then you probably don't understand what you're using the Facebook page to screen for to begin with.

Why is he dumb enough to give that out?  Why does giving out his personal information make him dumb when he is attempting to be screened?  Doesn't your own website ask for full legal name and place of employment?  With that information you could potentially find a clients Facebook page.  Does that make him dumb for giving you his full legal name and place of employment?

Again, my point is to do whatever makes you (plural, guys & girls) most comfortable but don't knock, discredit or judge what works for another.

It is DUMB to lead some random provider to photos of his wife and children.  A google image search can reveal who those photos are of, and where else they are posted on the net. I just had a very good friend outed because some crazy provider did not like her 7/7 review, and she used his photo to find out his real information.  

When I do a background check, facebook is the LAST place I look. If he has nothing other than that, I am not seeing him.  

You can't help but see his wife, when the main photo is usually a family portrait, and that is what happens to pop up in a google search of his name. Why do people judge? Because those same providers making stupid mistakes come back here and cry about being busted or outed, that's why. Some of the very same providers demanding personal info. are too stupid to even practice discretion, and common sense. No, not many guys would give info. to a provider like that.  

I've known so many use a facebook account and not have the common sense to make sure not just anyone could access it, then their contact list for email gets spammed and whoops...hubby now has an inbox full of random women his wife can easily contact.  

So, no I could not really give a flip about how careless some providers are, but the irony is the very same ones come back here and wonder why they spent the night in jail, got ripped off, or worse. Most people tend to care about that happening before, not after.

Facebook alone, is not screening...it's stupid. I can set up a facebook account saying I am Megan Fox, and post all of her photos as if I am really her. There are countless profiles of fakes doing just that. A guy having a facebook proves nada and I feel sorry for anyone taking that as their only form of screening. Even a student email account is more credible than facebook.

 

 

 


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