I've now for several weeks tried to book a session in advance (3 - 5 days) but always have come up short. All of these providers are independent, well reviewed and supposedly newbie friendly (so listed on P411). I have been verified by P411, have TER VIP and have posted 1 review (another one still pending). If the providers have a screening form on their website I've filled it out with all the requested information. Otherwise I've emailed them with my number, full name, age, nationality, height, width, occupation, where I'm located as well as P411, TER, RB IDs. I've stated my preferred date and time but usually also said that if given time is not good I'm flexible with my schedule on that afternoon and evening.

From most of them I never heard back, one recently replied when she would be in my area and one responded that she would love to see me on given day (today) and asked me to confirm. I responded back that that is correct and assumed we were set. Since I hadn't heard anything from her since I texted her this morning to if we were still on. No response. No since there was only 1 hour till the scheduled time I tried calling her but did not pickup.

Now I understand that I don't have any provider references and they want to be safe but I have no problem giving additional information if they would just ask what they want. I don't think that the asian providers booker I've seen gives out any references even though I've seen her couple times and another girl from the same booker once.

To me it seems that these people have no business sense at all. I would assume that business is not so good when you are providing discount rates but thats just me. I highly unlikely that I will ever contact these ladies again but for mine and every other newbies reference can someone please tell me what the heck went wrong?

Now once again I'm faced with trying to make a last minute booking with someone on my list which once again is only filled with asian providers.

...but, then again, I'm in the NY Metro area, a "target-rich environment."  If you are, too, just be patient and keep trying with the newbie-friendlies.  Sometimes on P411 even the ones calling themselves newbie friendly also say they're interested only in "Basic Plus One," meaning you need at least one provider reference on that site.  Just keep plugging away until you get one.  I now have five and it actually was smooth sailing with only one.

Not that I know so much (I'm a newbie, too). But after researching the boards for a LONG time now, it seems that most likely what is happening is that these are ladies who are getting a high volume of calls. I do agree there might be a business sense aspect to it in terms of not returning your calls and setting things up, but we don't know what is going on in these ladies' lives outside of the hobby, plus if she's getting a large number of calls, voicemails, emails and texts, she probably is backlogged a bit. My sense is that the higher the rating of these women on TER, the more backlogged they might be expected to be. Yet the reverse is a problem as well...if they are ranked too low, you have to contend with poor quality, cash/dash, and bait and switch. I really just think it's the nature of the beast. From what you wrote you are doing all the right things. Although it's easier said than done, don't get frustrated... keep trying. I guarentee you're not the problem right now. A high quality woman will contact you, I'm sure of it.

Yeah. I guess most of the frustration comes from the fact that I've lived most of my life in Europe and in the past 10+ years of occasional hobbying have never had any problems finding a lady to entertain me whether it's my hotel, home or her place. I guess it's just the nature of the beast this side of the ocean.

Maybe I should somehow emphasize that I am now living here long term and looking for regulars rather than one offs.

Good point.  In the past week I've contacted 4 well-reviewed providers.  Two of them followed up well and I saw them both.  The other two never returned my requests, both posted through P411.

business sense.  Similarly, there are touring ladies who will schedule appointments back-to-back figuring some will be NS and all will work out.  Maybe she was finishing with another client who asked to go an additional hour or two when you called.  

It is frustrating when she doesn't answer the phone and the VM is full.  Keep trying.

I read and participate on this board almost every day. In stating that, I realize I'm in the minority here but I don't know why.

I hobby at least once a week, and have never set an appointment more than a couple of hours out. I don't understand all the trouble so many of you go through to set an appointment. Go find someone you would like to spend some time with and call her. Ask what her afternoon/evening availability looks like pick a time. If it's more than a few hours out (still same day), call again before you leave the house to let her know you're on the way and to be sure everything is still on track.

If it's not, go back to step one and try again. If initially she doesn't answer the phone, hang up without leaving a message and call someone else. If she calls back (from caller ID) before you schedule something else, then set it up with her... if it's too late, be nice and call her the next time.

I use the same practice when calling for a plumber, AC repairman or a mechanic. Whoever answers the phone first gets my business. I wouldn't sit in my living room sweating my ass off waiting for some random AC to call me back to fix my air conditioner, so don't sit around with your cock in your hand waiting for some random provider to call back.

Don't make this any harder than it needs to be; this hobby is too much fun to sweat the small stuff!

I wish it was always that simple.  But where I hobby, many girls do not want you to call to make an appointment.  They prefer you e-mail them, contact through their web site, or through P411 or Date-Check.  In many cases if you do call them, all you get is a message that their voice mail is full and to please call again later.  Even with girls I've seen before, the initial contact is always via e-mail.  It's actually quite simple and works well.

Inicky46... That must really suck! I'm in a metropolitan area and no bullshit, I could seriously schedule 20 appointments in an hour and a half. Probably 90% of the time I can see whoever is my first choice.

Today, for example... I'm heading out in an hour to run some errands... the usual Saturday stuff... gym, haircut, bank... can't forget the bank, couple coctails and some wings before the football games kick off and of course... some weekend hobbying.

I found this little spinner hottie on BP, did the usual research... although nothing here, enough info on the other popular local board I post on to suit my style, so I called her a few minutes ago, she answered and I ran my day past her. I stated that I was heading out in a little while to run some errands and would like to make seeing her a part of my day. She said that would be nice, and verified the general area she was staying in. I told her I am thinking around 4 or 5 this afternoon would probably be a good time for me today and that I just wanted to speak with her now to be sure she was infact seeing clients today, and to look for my call again in a few hours.

I'll call her around 3 or so to once again check availability and pick a time to meet. If right away works, off I'll go... if she needs til 6 or so, no problem, I'll set it up, guarantee her I'm 100% locked in fore the appointment and hang out at the bar with my friends until it's time to head her way.

I hobby every weekend and this is really how it always goes. I forget sometimes that this is a national forum and some parts of the country are much more rural with thin pickings. The girls here are basically in a f*ing price war with eachother... If I'm feeling cocky, I'll tell them my "price" for hobbying that day and give them the choice if they are interested. One chick was thinking quadruple of what I was and we met in the middle, a lot closer to my price than hers. Remember, that with all the providers are also a ton of clients... and we have a whole lot of choices here, which in turn means they have a whole lot of competition!

I read your posts all the time and feel like your a cool guy and a good asset to this board... it would be scarry if you had the same demographics as I do where you live and hobby!

Thanks, dogg.  I think the difference is that we hobby differently.  You're more experienced and also go for gals who tend to prefer phone contact.  I may try a few of your gals in the near future!