Dropglock,

Its a sad state of affairs my friend, I am going through similar situations with getting my new friends verified through other providers.

I personally entertain gentlemen who are 33 and older but its not nice for women to "pretend" to be interested in seeing you and give you the cold shoulder.

Now with agencies...From what I experienced, they do not like giving out references for independents. Hell, I heard they don't like doing it PERIOD. Nothing personal I was told - just stolen business is how they view it.

Try e-mailing those ladies again that tickle your fancy because if they don't follow up with you or give you a song and dance on why they became silent or distant; would you really want to spend money on ladies that aren't professional?

Before you throw in the towel on them, give them the benefit of the doubt first...

Good luck,

- A.L.

Do not tell the provider your age unless she asks for it or she specifically states on her website that she does not see gentlemen under a certain age. In such a case you should move on to another provider. Regarding your age, it is ok to fudge a little to the upside. Say you are 21 or 22 if she asks. I did it and it worked as long as you behave like a 21 year old and not a 19 year old.

As long as you have cold hard cash it is all good. Just make sure you understand that this is a business and it is unlikely that she will fall madly in love with you even though you may fall madly in love with her. Also the service you receive from a provider is not likely to happen in the civie world.

Now for the references. Give the provider your school email address [email protected] and ask her to send a discreet message to it and you respond back. Once you give her your name and school email address she can also look you up using the online directory on your school website and confirm who you are.

Two things. Make sure you use an anonymous email service like gmail or yahoo for hobby related activities. If you use your schools email and get caught, you could get kicked out. The school email account can only be used as a form of discreet verification of last resort.

Use a prepaid go phone and not a campus phone or your personal cell to contact providers or to have them contact you.

Get a job even a part time job or a 5 hr / week campus job, it will work as verification.

I started at 21 so it is not impossible.

-- Modified on 11/25/2008 1:22:27 AM

and I doubt many ladies will..I think there are age related laws in every state but why take a chance..

Yes, do be up front with your age because once you are asked for an ID.

Some agencies do whitelist gentlemen on TER but you would have to check in your area..Also some Agency ladies have their own websites as but like the safety and convience of letting an agency do the leg work.

By all means if you see a lady ask her if she will work as a reference.

Good Luck
Kisses Haley