I notice a provider I have been wanting to see is coming to town in a week or two and offers a quickie at a very decent price. Is there really any benefit to going with a half hour if MSOG isn't offered unless an hour is purchased?
So what is the benefit really between a quickie and a half? It just seems like a way of the provider to undercut themselves sort to speak. From what I understand the menu doesn't change either at least with this provider.
I see quickies sometimes because I just want a BJ. Sometimes I may be in a hurry. When I get there, if shes not physically appealing, and I still want to stay and not pay extra, I'll go for the quickie and get FS. A quicky however is just that, and sometimes the provider may informed you of how much time you have left (may rush you). For some men, it doesn't take long for them to cum. I am like that sometimes, and all I need is a quicky, sometimes 30 mins may bet too much for me. Its in and out, no foreplay.
With the half hour, I know that I can relax more and take my time. More time for foreplay and talking. I usually do the half if the provider is attractive and does a good service. Still, I know its only a half hour and have to be weary of the time, and its usually just 1 hat.
The full hour, the menu widens. I usually can have two hats. More time to foreplay like fingering her pussy, DATY, DFK, and such. I know I can definitely take my time, take showers, talk, or what ever. Usually, not many men can have the endurance to last for an hour straight, hobbyist buy this time cause they want to take their time to enjoy each others company.
Each time frame has its benefits, you may be in the mood for a 15, 30, or 60 minute session depending on your mood, feelings, or behavior towards each other.
All depends upon what you are looking for, how you define "best bang".
I just saw an amazing gal last night, but owing to time and $ constraints, I could only spend an hour instead of the two hours I usually spend.
She tried to get me off twice, the first shot coming at 30 minutes into the hour, but try as she might (And she really tried!) I could not get the second one off. With two hours I always come twice.
My favorites are long dinner dates and even overnights. I enjoy the company of certain gals enough to want to spend the time, and as I live alone, there are no family details blocking me.
The only good quickie is when I would really rather have not been there at all - you know, the hour date when you finish in 20 minutes (with relief), talk a little to be polite with an eye out for a good opportunity to slip out the door. Mr. F, do you even look at ladies who offer quickies? I suppose I have seen one or two in my time, but mostly if they offer a quickie, or even a half hour, I walk on by.
So I do not know whether a quickie is a great deal. If you get into the lady, an hour is way too short, and if you do not 15 minutes is a lifetime. Better to screen and avoid the latter.
I understand the purpose of a quickie in principle, but I prefer to slow down and smell the roses, so to speak. Hell, I can't even finish exploring a beautiful woman's cheekbones, neck and shoulders in 15 minutes. Sort of like having my own statue of Venus for a personal art appreciation class - I would hate to miss any of the details.
But that was surely not the OP's question.
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Usually, the per minute rate is far steeper for shorter sessions. However, if an orgasm is all that matters to you, there's no point in booking more time that it takes you.
Hell, for that matter, why not ask if she'll do a 5-minute ulraquickie at 2/3 the 15 minute rate?
Yes, always go with a lower price, get in and out as fast as you can and don't bother spending another minute or penny than you have to.
That way you can ensure that she has to see 4 or 5 guys to make any money so you will be rushed out the door while the other one is pulling in.
God forbid you talk or connect in anyway so that she could actually have any genuine response to you because you are a complete stranger who just walked in the door. You want to make sure that she has completely shut down emotionally and you are just a cock she has to get off. Don't worry, she will have perfected the art of faking passion because of all the practice she had with the other 5 guys that day.
Quick is definitely "best."
(Sarcasm at no additional charge).
PS... I no longer offer "specials" or discounts for that very reason... I have one date scheduled today and he will be the only guy I see all day today!
Interesting response. See a person has to realize they aren't a special unique snowflake. In an industry where fake names, fake interest, etc, is being given I doubt many genuine connections are being made. In fact, time is money and I doubt you would be seeing anyone if they didn't offer to pay. Or if you had a true connection you would be seeing these people outside of business and possibly go into something romantic.
I do agree though paying more money and spending more time could create a "fake" passionate atmosphere but truth is a guy is paying for a fantasy. The fantasy might be having that passion and "GFE" but its just a fantasy.
Finally, you make it sound like I should feel bad you have to see 4 to 5 other men if I am doing a quickie or half hour. Your business isn't my concern, in fact, if you are in high demand then you should always be fully booked. My regular I pretty much have to book a good deal in advance.
It would be easy to know the answer to everything if it always depended on money alone. Presence of money = no real passion. Absence of money = true connection. But it's not that simple.
In reality, there is often an element of true connection mixed with fake, with or without money involved. The part that's real is what can make the whole fantasy act believable and more enjoyable for both parties. And the more time you spend together, the better chance there is for a kernel of something real to form. 15 minutes just doesn't allow much time for that. And a girl who does a lot of quickies most likely isn't even bothering to try for anything more than the most obviously fake, assembly-line passion.
And it's not the girl who you should feel bad for because of the number of quickies she needs to do. It's you, the customer who gets rushed.
If none of this is a concern for you, then fine. But since you asked.....
It ends up coming down to your outlook on life and what you want. As a young man, I just wanted sex, I didn't even want to kiss any one night stand, only kissing girls I dated... felt like commitment. The pistol reloaded quick, and you'd get a hard on if your boxers were on crooked.
As I matured, I could still salute when needed, but I enjoyed the foreplay more, liked making a girl cum before I even dropped my boxers, and liked the girl snuggling with me afterwards.
Now that I'm considered mature, the sight of a named girl alone doesn't raise the flag anymore, touch is needed. The only exception is a GFE provider. The passion of the kiss and the embrace can wake Herman up without a thump on the head, and the foreplay really heats things up. In between rounds, when she snuggled up to you and the small talk starts, you forget you're some middle-aged man with bills, mortgages, a business to run, people to look after, and all the other things that come with maturity, age and responsibility. You get lost for a brief moment with this young hottie in the memories of your youth, when your biggest problem was how to hide the alcohol on your breath before you got to work.
Just my view, now this 'mature' guy is going back to watching Hobo with a Shotgun...
"In an industry where fake names, fake interest, etc, is being given I doubt many genuine connections are being made."
Probably more are being made than you think, but not when someone does not allow the time for it to happen. I am not talking about falling hard for someone, but some degree of real friendship. If you are not looking for a connection--and many are not--then it is likely you will find or notice the opportunity when it is there. Nothing wrong with that at all, but some do enjoy such things.
I do agree with you that many of the connections that happen would not start if the first encounter was in a public setting--the initial eye candy effect is often not present. However the mature of this business makes some initial meetings occur that would not occur in public--and as a result it allows the possibility for a connection if both people are open to it.
I agree friendship could come about. When I was defining connection I was meaning something that goes beyond a platonic friendship.
However, that still seems difficult to call anything platonic. Once attraction enters into a relationship, one side will always want more. If the a friendship is made, one party (Most likely the hobbyist) will wish it goes farther.
Ultimately, I think it comes down to ego. Not many providers are going to want to admit this because its bad for business. Part of their job is to feed a man's ego. The second the man's ego is broke they will lose business.
The best example of breaking a man's ego would be if the person found out someone is being treated differently then he is. Lets take an EXTREMELY attractive man and he sees a provider. If the provider falls hard for him and starts having sex with him for free (Or gives him a discount) and another hobbyist somehow found out, his ego would be damaged. Hence, he wouldn't go back.
I understand what you are saying, but I do not agree. Most ladies treat different clients differently just as in any business. I fly the same airline most the time--the agents in my home city often give me a free upgrade to 1st class. The hotels I stay at repeatedly give me upgrades/extras. My barber and I are friends [completely platonic!!
]but I do get extra treatment because of our friendship.
If a lady does fall for a guy--be it because of his looks, his behavior, or whatever reason--I would expect her to treat him differently. Why not? My ATF had a boyfriend/client and I knew full well he got better treatment than I did--and I got much better than most her other clients. I know others also have extra special clients who get treated differently. If I get fair value why should I complain about what someone else does or does not get? It is none of my or anyone else's business if she gives a discount to someone else. And if the guy getting the discount keeps his mouth shut no one else should know.
You have to understand that there is a great chasm between like and love. So, a provider can like a guy and genuinely enjoy the physical side of things because of that and be nowhere near falling in love with him. I have regulars I am very excited to see because I like them and we have fun, but I'm don't fantasize about them when I am away from them.
The bottom line is that women are not visually oriented so it takes more than just seeing a guy to feel a natural desire to be intimate with him no matter what he looks like. Spending time talking first allows the woman the ability to stop feeling she is with a stranger so she doesn't feel weird about being touched by him.
And THIS is what makes things better for the guy! So, a longer session allows more time for things to flow naturally on the woman's part.
For some women, it wouldn't make any difference because they shut down either way, but it sure does for me!
I disagree women are visually orientated or at least some are. I've been to parties before where a girl comes up to you and is like "You're hot" and literally within the next 5 minutes she pulls you into the bathroom wanting to have sex.
That is SOOOOOOO well stated! Very nice! I think friends is a better way of looking at it. If you talk and spend time getting to know each other, a friendship can start to develop rather than a romance.
The bottom line is that I like to talk until I feel comfortable being intimate. The guy is no longer a stranger to me. Rather than shutting down and going through the motions, I can find some level of genuine response if I've made that effort. And the guy always has a better time as a result of it. So do I!
I don't want to feel like a zombie/robot/sperm depository. I don't want to dread/hate the experience. No amount of money is worth that to me. I have to live with these memories I'm creating for the rest of my life. I want them to be good! And the vast majority of them are!
Yes, I am a snowflake. We all are. Each one very different than the next.
Probably more are being made than you think, but not when someone does not allow the time for it to happen. I am not talking about falling hard for someone, but some degree of real friendship. If you are not looking for a connection--and many are not--then it is likely you will find or notice the opportunity when it is there. Nothing wrong with that at all, but some do enjoy such things.
I do agree with you that many of the connections that happen would not start if the first encounter was in a public setting--the initial eye candy effect is often not present. However the mature of this business makes some initial meetings occur that would not occur in public--and as a result it allows the possibility for a connection if both people are open to it.
Although I was quick to point out to the OP what he could be missing, I don't for a second agree that sitting around talking is the only way to establish rapport. If skipping that step would make you feel like a zombie, that's a shame, but your tone suggests that you speak for women as a whole, and that other providers must be going though the motions and taking money in exchange for the harrowing memories that will surely follow them through life. Nonsense! Some providers are simply a different kind of snowflake.
Although 15 minutes is physiologically too quick for me, I often go for 30 minutes, especially for just oral. Even in one hour sessions, I like to start into the action the instant the door closes. Any talking is limited to playful banter until our post-climax chat as we're cleaning up and getting dressed. I'm not convinced that our rapport would be any stronger if we had gone through the preliminary get-to-know-you interview. I doubt that these girls are made to feel like zombies. Sperm dumpsters, maybe, but only in the spirit of fun. I give them credit with understanding that it's a F A N T A S Y.