I am wondering what people think of the following. In the last three weeks, I have spent time with two well reviewed providers. In both cases, the sex was great. Both ladies apparently became quite aroused if I go by all the wetness involved, and the need for zero lubricants. Lady number 2 claimed a number of O's without prompting. Lady number 1 was highly responsive, but never made any such claims. I am not experienced enough to tell one way or the other. The only reason I bring this up, is that both claimed to have a great time, and their physical reactions at least appeared to support their claims. I have been with others who made the claim, but there was nothing beyond the words that led me to believe them.
So here is where the experience between numbers 1 and 2 diverge. I sent them both very short thank-you e mails. Lady # 1 responded very quickly, volunteered to be a reference, and we have had several e mail exchanges since. She proactively went to P411 and here to give me an OK, and a whitelist referral. With lady #2, in my e mail, I asked if she would consider white listing me here. She has not responded at all. Prior to the appointment, she answered every e mail quickly, and professionally. So the non-response now is quite the contrast. I don't think anything happened during our time together to set off any alarms or bad vibes. To reiterate, she seemed very comfortable the entire time, and appeared to go out of her way to emphasize how positive the encounter was. I think I was equally respectful to both ladies.
So guess who I will repeat with? First guess does not count. Seems to me that Lady #2 is either sending me a message by not responding, or she is making a marketing 101 mistake. I guess I can't figure out what the big deal would be to invest 30 seconds to reply. That is all it would have taken for me to be a repeat client.
I understand that all of this business is an illusion, but I am kind of surprised that an otherwise accomplished provider would let such a simple thing undo an otherwise perfect illusion. I can only conclude that she knows I will read between the lines and not contact her again. Any comments on this conclusion?
Clearly both providers acted professionally and both showed you a good time. Contact between appointments is something that some gals do and some never will. If that's your criteria for choosing repeat appointments that's your right-it's your money.
The lady who is not responding to you may simply not do white listing-a lot of them don't. She also may be taking time off and not checking her business email or, and this is often the case, she may be ignoring you until you contact her about another booking so as not to encourage a flood of emails. Some guys have a nasty habit of blowing up a providers email with mindless babble in between appointments.
In any case, it's your money to spend however you like but how she markets herself is her call. What may seem like a "mistake" to you may be what works for her.
We all choose what we think is the best course of action (based on our own limited experience) for our limited resource (time). Number 1 probably chose to use her time to keep people she has seen. Number 2 probably chose to use her time to seek out new people to see. Since I have no experience from the other side nor conduct any scientific research into it, I really don't know whose method is better in the long run.
which might prevent her from replying as fast as she did before. Maybe she is not working at all this week and has turned off her phone, and is not returning emails...stanger things have happened than a hooker not wanting to deal with the business for a while. I have had the same thing happen when asking for refs...a week later the girl replies saying she was on vacation and not dealing with escort business. I thought to myself, "Well, an auto response saying that might have been a professional addition," as that is what I would have done if I just disappeared for weeks on end.
See who you want to see, but don't read so much into this bs. It is simply counter productive concerning what you are supposed to achieve by having a NSA relationship. It could be she wants no contact with you, and it could also be she has other things going on right now..maybe even a family issue you really have no need to know about.
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What we, as clients, are paying for is the time spent in the room together. To assume anything beyond that as some sort of obligation is a bad assumption. I'm real-world friends with my ATF and, over the years, she has dropped several guys as clients simply because they expected too much of her time before and after appointments.
I've been a regular with a one particular gal for three years now who, aside from a thank-you text right after she leaves my place, never has any contact with me, sometimes for months, between bookings. In spite of this she has given me references several times upon my asking and has no problem doing so. She has a private life and keeps a very low profile. This is the way it is with all of these ladies.
Whatever the reason, very few providers have common sense as to how to communicate and maintain
relationship so that the hobbyist will feel like returning.
If pre and post appointment ass-kissing is the criteria for re-booking it's only a matter of time before you get burned in any number of ways...
Who said anything about ass kissing, and that being the only criteria? This board is incredible. I hear all kinds of bitching and moaning about how there are no new posters, and that maybe 30 or 40 people post with any kind of volume. I put this post on the newbie board for a reason, but that doesn't stop the usual flaming from those who don't share a particular point of view. Sorry, but some of you guys are just too much.
This is a customer service business. If you guys think that someone finding 30 seconds to say "your're welcome" is too much of an imposition, then I say LOL too. To listen to you guys carry on, you would think I was asking for hours of someone's time. That is not the case, and I think it was made real clear in the original post. Stop trying to put words in my mouth.
It was a response to another poster suggesting that girls need to maintain an on-going line of communication between appointments.
But since you brought it up...
I get a kick out of this whole "this is a customer service business" stuff that pops up here. Guess what, ALL business is about serving the customer. That's what businesses do. That being said, your mechanic, your doctor, your barber and your plumber DON'T call you or email you in between visits...unless they are trying to solicit more business!
Returning an email and as you say "maintaning a relationship" are nowhere near the same thing. Being professional does not mean we have to chat with you every week when we are nowhere near you! This is not the same type of "relationship" that we might have with a Sugardaddy who pays us EVERY month, to be at his beck and call. Guys call when they want an appt. and we see them if we can...that simple.
If we had "outside" relationships with every guy we see, tell me when would we have time for OUR lives, families, other jobs? Just saying...some people are really delusional about what this business is. I agree that returning emails takes very little time especially if you have a Blackberry or Iphone, but gimme a fking break! She could be in the damn hospital or her child could be sick. To assume just because she does not drop everything for a client is absurd.
How many providers' children do you buy gifts for at Christmas? Ever send out cards on birthdays? What if one callled asking you for money but she could not fk you at that time...would you send it? I didn't think so. If you don't want YOUR private life invaded, you might want to consider hookers have lives too. We are not all just sitting in a hotel room waiting for the next d*ck to suck lol.
I don't disagree with you that a lot of providers have absolutely NO business skills, but that's why many are hookers and nothing else in real life ha ha. I get annoyed when guys don't respond to ME fast enough, so I know where you're coming from. Just don't assume the worst in every situattion and relax is all I am saying. Girl does not respond? See ya...next! It's not worth the stress to even bother.
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all had to be responded to, screening done, scheduling made, references given/asked for etc
That is only dealing with my companion business.
Then there is "real life".
I may on occasion send follow up after date saying that i had great time. Is it why my patrons return? No, don't think so.
Lina
while i was typing this message 5 more emails hit inbox
with lady #2 and ask her in person for the referral.
I'm guessing her response will be " Sure honey, no problem". (and I'm not being facetious.)
I will give you an example of what happened to me a few months ago.(this is not a direct comparison but...)
I make an appt. for a Thursday evening (7pm) on Monday. She responds and says to email her thurs a.m. to confirm and then she will give me hotel info. I email her on that morning she says she will let me know by early afternoon.
1 p.m. nothing, 3 p.m. nothing. 4 p.m. nothing. no call or text. nothing. I leave home and I'm on my way. I'm starting to get nervous as it's a long drive and I want to be early/ on time. 5 p.m. still nothing??? How does she expect me to know if I'm supposed to make the drive (or should I just assume she doesn't want to meet me) if she hasn't responded by now? 6pm nothing...I email her to see if we're still a go. 6:30 pm nothing, WTF??? Great, I drove all the way here.... in this F'ing traffic... Finally, at 6:40 she sends the hotel info. So then she texts 10 minutes later to say she will be a few minutes late.I get there at 6:50. I say to myself cool.I'll wait in the lobby bar. It will give me a chance to get out of the bad mood I'm in. So I'm waiting for her to get there and text me the room number. 7:00. nothing, 7:10 nothing, 7:30 nothing (I'm starting to notice a pattern.lol) I was gonna leave. Finally at 7:45 she texts me the number.I take a deeeep breath and go up. She opens the door, apologizes and gives me a nice hug and kiss.Everything was cool after that.
So here is where the experience between numbers 1 and 2 diverge. I sent them both very short thank-you e mails. Lady # 1 responded very quickly, volunteered to be a reference, and we have had several e mail exchanges since. She proactively went to P411 and here to give me an OK, and a whitelist referral. With lady #2, in my e mail, I asked if she would consider white listing me here. She has not responded at all. Prior to the appointment, she answered every e mail quickly, and professionally. So the non-response now is quite the contrast. I don't think anything happened during our time together to set off any alarms or bad vibes. To reiterate, she seemed very comfortable the entire time, and appeared to go out of her way to emphasize how positive the encounter was. I think I was equally respectful to both ladies.
So guess who I will repeat with? First guess does not count. Seems to me that Lady #2 is either sending me a message by not responding, or she is making a marketing 101 mistake. I guess I can't figure out what the big deal would be to invest 30 seconds to reply. That is all it would have taken for me to be a repeat client.
I understand that all of this business is an illusion, but I am kind of surprised that an otherwise accomplished provider would let such a simple thing undo an otherwise perfect illusion. I can only conclude that she knows I will read between the lines and not contact her again. Any comments on this conclusion?
But that doesn't mean that provider #2 didn't have a good time or doesn't want to repeat.
One doesn't necessarily mean the other thing.