frustration

being a newbie involves a lot of red tape and patience..you have to jump a lot of hurdles before you can get into the marathon..

Posted By: Golfpro1203

While I understand every aspect of the rules, just getting frustrated. When I first posted about my situation(military vet,stay at home dad, basically retired from working due to military service) I got a few PM showing interest and even a PM from a provider that I had strong interest in. Went through the motions of trying to get verified. She asked for xyz, I sent xyz and then nothing since Thursday night, which I assume is a "not verified" from her. I took the advice about p411 and how they are willing to work with you to get you verified. Sent in the xyz but the Z(tax return) wasn't official enough for them.  
   
 TLR: Just venting and me being my neurotic self

you got to start from the bottom. Not the "bottom" bottom obviously.... but see at least 2 providers who have a rep on P411. They can then give you references and all will be easier. Some gals are willing to see newbies (and do alt screening for your situation).  

I do also suggest asking Gina (at P411) what is going on or what more you can do.  

Posted By: Golfpro1203

While I understand every aspect of the rules, just getting frustrated. When I first posted about my situation(military vet,stay at home dad, basically retired from working due to military service) I got a few PM showing interest and even a PM from a provider that I had strong interest in. Went through the motions of trying to get verified. She asked for xyz, I sent xyz and then nothing since Thursday night, which I assume is a "not verified" from her. I took the advice about p411 and how they are willing to work with you to get you verified. Sent in the xyz but the Z(tax return) wasn't official enough for them.  
   
 TLDR: Just venting and me being my neurotic self

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...can get to know you and get a sense of who you are.

There are providers who advertise they are especially fond of vets.  Look for them and ask them for advice on storming the beach.

Great service and you can talk to someone on their 800# to get approved.  Once you're on, you can find providers who'll see a newbie with no OKs.  Get a few OKs from them and you're home free.
(just proving I don't come here only to flame noobs.)

P411 would not accept your tax return as verification evidence of who you are?  Sorry my friend, I don't know what to tell you.  The advice about getting active on your local regional board was good.  Suggest you a review search for newbie friendly providers in your area.  Asking for help on that on your local boarc might help.

Newbies seem to be having an increasingly tough time getting into the hobby, and I do not know why.  Best of luck.  Just remember, we all were there at one point in time.

Swim

You have to start somewhere ... I know the risks suck but most of us started with no or little verifying ... You kinda have to work your way up ... Too often I would read things like "I never see a girl without reviews" well at one point I had none and still only have about a dozen on varying sites ... Same is true for clients ... I know you want a well reviewed girl and maybe you can and want to pay big bucks to see her but you just might have to set your sights a little lower and look for girls who don't verify/screen ... Just be careful and use all your spidey senses ... Google number, use tiny eye etc ... Then one day when you grow up you can be a screenable hobbyist lol ... I joke but really I do understand ... We all started out noobs ... Hell I still consider myself one .... Still learning =D

Not sure where you're located.  Our friends to the north have much more relaxed laws where hobbying is concerned.  If you can manage a trip...you might be able to make arrangements with a couple of providers that also use P411 and will screen you with other methods.  They key thing is to ask if they will consent to being references for you to help you satisfy the p411 membership requirements.  Toronto has plenty of ladies on P411.  I haven't researched other Canadian cities much.  

It's easy to find girls that use p411 as they usually list it on their web sites.  

You could also do the same in your locale...but...local ladies may be reluctant to see you w/o references, employment, or a verification site in your corner.    

PM me if you're interested in more detail about Toronto.  It's a pretty cool city in its own right...the freedom to hobby there w/o some of the stateside hangups is just a really nice bonus.

Why don’t you try and meet in a public place like Star Bucks. Some providers are willing just need to find one who is willing. Most providers have friends and you can build up from there.  

P411 doesn’t always work either. Even with membership, some still ask for references.