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Posted By: pwilson1234567
I would say that in a sense, my situation is similar to that of a disgraced ny governor elliot spitzer........except im not the governor, but who knows, hopefully one day I could be!...Let's say I get my brother (who doesn't care) to use all his info and then i show up.  Is this even a possibility?  
Using your brother's identity is only possible if you have no moral principles.  Your brother may agree to this identity swap in order to protect you, but what does this reveal about you?  

1.  Your brother's reputation means nothing to you.
2.  Instead of taking responsibility for your own actions, you'd use someone who loves you as a shield.  

Morally there are worse things than buying sex, like items #1 and #2 above.  Given what you've already stated, your brother is the natural leader in your family, not you. Maybe you should stay out of politics.    --z

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I am from NYC and I think I'd like to try to see an escort.   I don't want anyone knowing my name, biz info, etc.   I do not want to risk my real life for this, so I am not going to give out any real information.  Sorry to say but I don't really trust this world.  And I guess these women don't know me, so don't trust me either.

I'm in a quandary.

Is there another way to get verified, or maybe certain providers that I can meet up with for a session to prove I  am real?   Or maybe actually meet an escort at a bar?  Or maybe get a rubdown first?

Ideas?

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As one provider recently said (I think it was LR), you'll take a bigger risk by seeing a provider who doesn't screen.  The problem is you can't eliminate risk in the sex trade.  But if you're smart, you can minimize risk.  I'd trust Gina of P411 over any provider who doesn't screen.  --z

Posted By: boston5432
I am from NYC and I think I'd like to try to see an escort.   I don't want anyone knowing my name, biz info, etc.   I do not want to risk my real life for this, so I am not going to give out any real information.  Sorry to say but I don't really trust this world.  And I guess these women don't know me, so don't trust me either.

I'm in a quandary.

Is there another way to get verified, or maybe certain providers that I can meet up with for a session to prove I  am real?   Or maybe actually meet an escort at a bar?  Or maybe get a rubdown first?

Ideas?

They will verify you. You will have to provide some of your personal info to them, but its better option than giving it directly to escorts.

Do a search for P411 and Date Check on the newbie forum. This topic has been discussed many many times.. I mean 1000s of times....

-- Modified on 1/16/2013 7:50:45 PM

I am in the exact same situation.  I CANNOT give out ANY personal information.  Other than married/children etc.  I would say that in a sense, my situation is similar to that of a disgraced ny governor elliot spitzer........except im not the governor, but who knows, hopefully one day I could be!  

So, can I get a burn phone and somehow use someone else to get verified and pawn myself off as him?  

Let's say I get my brother (who doesn't care) to use all his info and then i show up.  Is this even a possibility?

that's my problem.  I really can't put any info out there.  I don't trust 3rd party verification.  I wouldn't be able to have my sh!t come out in 10-20 years.  (i.e. breaking news: smoking gun just uncovered pwilson1234567 used a third party verification commonly used to frequent escorts!!!)

is what i posted before even possible?

no matter where you go.....

You either give your personal info to escorts.. OR

You give it to P411 and Date Check OR

You give it some Madame or Pimp who runs "off the grid" agency (like Emperor's Club)

In this day and age its pretty hard to hobby without partying away with your personal info if you want quality escorts.  Your only other option is low level providers from Back Page.

You are actually much worse off if you use someone else's identity for this purpose. If you get caught, both of you are in trouble. Now, you are not only a whore monger but also an identity thief.

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im really not that worried about getting caught in the traditional sense.  In other words, im not worried about showing up and getting put in cuffs, as i would only go to well referenced ladies.  Im worried about either the agency or the independent herself gets busted and through her computer my info gets pulled.  

Also, it would not be id theft as the person i would use would give full consent.

In eyes of people you still would be creepy for two reasons..

Seeing hookers.. and using someone's name for seeing them...

I will let the other guys weigh in.

bingo.  I am in agreement with you. which is why i CANT give out any info. and in need of another way to get verified.

Offer a meet and greet with them, maybe a dinner to get to know one another, offer some stuff on confidence perhaps, etc...  May have to pay for some less personal time, but depending on the impression you give it could be more then enough.

Though if you are/planning to be that much of a public figure there would be a good chance you would be known right off the bat, and added into any database you are worried about.

Posted By: pwilson1234567
bingo.  I am in agreement with you. which is why i CANT give out any info. and in need of another way to get verified.

I wouldn't meet with a guy, even in public, if he refused to get verified. Screening protocol is what it is. If it's too much personal information for you, you're just going to have to go with some lower-rent ladies who don't screen (which, IMO, is more risky than just cooperating with verification).

You're so worried about giving out info, but I bet you're not posting from a trac phone lol. Here's the deal...don't see escorts if you're that worried. Men like you make our job even harder to do, and no one wants to be with someone in your position. Men that have that much to lose, should not be here to begin with. Try redtube.

Don't even think about playing.  There's too much angst bottled up with all that paranoia.

hahaha, I think you are right.  probably the best advice i really should listen too.  

what happened to the good old days, I would just flip through the yellow pages and just call up.....pick my race and have a hooker come over!!!!

when the big head is thinking, but tell that to the little guy when he is in control.

and therefore out of reach of the US authorities.  

But Curly is correct in his debate with pwilson - if you're gonna see well reviewed girls (and you should only see well reviewed girls while you're a newbie) you're gonna have to give your personal info to someone - either the service or the girl (and some girls will still want it even though you have the service).   If you're nervous about giving it to the girl (and that's not an unreasonable concern), then your best option is P411, or to not hobby at all.

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Posted By: pwilson1234567
I would say that in a sense, my situation is similar to that of a disgraced ny governor elliot spitzer........except im not the governor, but who knows, hopefully one day I could be!...Let's say I get my brother (who doesn't care) to use all his info and then i show up.  Is this even a possibility?  
Using your brother's identity is only possible if you have no moral principles.  Your brother may agree to this identity swap in order to protect you, but what does this reveal about you?  

1.  Your brother's reputation means nothing to you.
2.  Instead of taking responsibility for your own actions, you'd use someone who loves you as a shield.  

Morally there are worse things than buying sex, like items #1 and #2 above.  Given what you've already stated, your brother is the natural leader in your family, not you. Maybe you should stay out of politics.    --z

''except im not the governor, but who knows, hopefully one day I could be!"
Heaven forbid! Can't wait to have another nitwit in office, who would throw his own brother under a bus.

"you'd use someone who loves you as a shield."
Yep! Desperate to have this great leader spending my tax dollars or better yet, in a position to cast his vote on whether to send my son into another stupid-ass war!

"Morally there are worse things than buying sex"
Like being an idiot perhaps? This Op reeks like a troll waste disposal site.

There's nothing real about this.  I was raised in a political family.  Plenty of cheaters in the loop, but they went the SB route, even before the 'net.  

BTW pw, your appallingly bad composition, grammar and punctuation, lead me to believe you may actually resemble an established political hierarchy(G-Dub? Is that you?), except this is the fakest post I've ever read and I'm just a nobody, noob.  (Yeah,"fakest" is a non-word, but in this instance, who's gonna know?)

JMHO, from a self-proclaimed writer, with punctuation skills that diminish by the day.  
FLAME ON!

She already KNOWS I think she is simply BEAUTIFUL !!!
I also am a self proclaimed "word nazi". Bad grammer and puncuation are worse than a Jalapeno enema
Your views and style of writing hit yet another pleasurable button with me !
Signed, an smitten guy in Ft. Lauderdale !

Posted By: RedheadBombshell
''except im not the governor, but who knows, hopefully one day I could be!"
Heaven forbid! Can't wait to have another nitwit in office, who would throw his own brother under a bus.

"you'd use someone who loves you as a shield."
Yep! Desperate to have this great leader spending my tax dollars or better yet, in a position to cast his vote on whether to send my son into another stupid-ass war!

"Morally there are worse things than buying sex"
Like being an idiot perhaps? This Op reeks like a troll waste disposal site.

There's nothing real about this.  I was raised in a political family.  Plenty of cheaters in the loop, but they went the SB route, even before the 'net.  

BTW pw, your appallingly bad composition, grammar and punctuation, lead me to believe you may actually resemble an established political hierarchy(G-Dub? Is that you?), except this is the fakest post I've ever read and I'm just a nobody, noob.  (Yeah,"fakest" is a non-word, but in this instance, who's gonna know?)

JMHO, from a self-proclaimed writer, with punctuation skills that diminish by the day.  
FLAME ON!

My feminine ego and I thank you Darlin'! Seriously though, we should just get a room already. Something to ponder.....

That post was pure awesomeness! I almost thought I was reading my own words lol.

nothing to worry about in those hobbies and no need for fake identities

Posted By: boston5432
I am from NYC and I think I'd like to try to see an escort.   I don't want anyone knowing my name, biz info, etc.   I do not want to risk my real life for this, so I am not going to give out any real information.  Sorry to say but I don't really trust this world.  And I guess these women don't know me, so don't trust me either.

I'm in a quandary.

Is there another way to get verified, or maybe certain providers that I can meet up with for a session to prove I  am real?   Or maybe actually meet an escort at a bar?  Or maybe get a rubdown first?

Ideas?
-- Modified on 1/16/2013 11:57:46 PM

-- Modified on 1/16/2013 11:58:17 PM

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In the end, we can give you ideas, but she ultimately has to decide that she is comfortable seeing you.  One provider might be comfortable taking the risk and meeting you at a bar.  Another one might not.

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