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Assuming the agency's records included real names (which they did) and TER handles. I assume that the people indicted were almost all local. If I am reading the information properly, they indicted less than 40 guys off a client list of 6000 (supposedly). Not sure if that means only 40 posted reviews, or 40 posted reviews and were local, or maybe there was some other threshold in terms of time, number of reviews, or something????

I suspect that the key to making any charges stick were the records of the agency, and the testimony of someone at the agency that such records were valid, probably testimony delivered at the wrong end of a loaded gun... I mean as a plea bargain faced with a lot of felony charges. Point is that reviews in and of themselves are not sufficient to get you into trouble because it is impossible to prove anything with them absent some sort of corroboration.

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I am very new to this and very excited that I found TER. I heard over the weekend LE had shut down three different massage parlors in Salt Lake City and I became very nervous all of the sudden. Should I be worried ?

LE has to catch you in the act of engaging in an illegal act in order to arrest you.  Just writing a story is not illegal.  Unless you are frequenting massage parlors in Utah, I would not be overly concerned.  Stick to well-reviewed providers, meaning at least 5-10 or more reviews, written by established hobbyists and the risks are minimal for you.

Swim

The way it's set up, use an alias and, most importantly, the inability to prove who wrote a review (without an admission, I'll get to that) makes it highly unlikely (not impossible) that one would be used in a prosecution.  There's also practical considerations, they'd have to seize your computer (or subpeona records from TER, who I anticipate would fight that like hell) and the cost/benefit analysis of jumping through the hoops necessary to do so for a simple john bust make that improbable as well.

All that said, notice I DIDN'T say "no way."  Couple of things come into play here: 1) some vice cops and prosecutors are certifiably insane, think they're doing God's work, protecting both the girls and their clients from themselves.  Therefore, depending on the personalities involved some of them, especially if they have time on their hands may be willing to go after this.  Even then, it would necessitate bringing in a forensic computer analyst in to lay the proper foundation . . . blah, blah, blah.  

Getting back to the real crux: as my good friend, Ron White, so eloquently points out, while we all have the right to remain silent, very few of us have the ability to do so.  If your computer was seized, a review printed, they showed it to you and you say, "yep, ya got me, I wrote that," then you might have problem.  Short of that, the evidentiary value of a purported review would be minimal.

So let me dispense some of the most valuable, frequently given and frequently ignored advice ever given: SHUT THE FUCK UP!  No one ever talks their way out of shit, cops are NOT trying to help you out by letting give your side and everything you say will almost assuredly be used against you!

in the a country where simple prostitution is not illegal.  Now, if a crime like a murder were to occurr...  illegal in both countries, I suppose a court order would be honored eventually.  In the recent case, (Craigs list killer) other information readily available & was used to swiftly make an arrest, as it should have been.

This really belongs on the legal board but I believe there have been cases where REVIEWS were linked to FreeBees or Kickbacks & were used as evidence in Criminal Conspiracy case with a busted agency.  Big Fish.  Don't get kickbacks, don't be involved in managing an agency.

In most jurisdictions, the paper trail is irrelevant. LE just wants to hear "sex of money" and you (or she) is busted.  It would take huge investment of man hours to prove a link of a review to a writer.  There is not that kind of budget.  Typically, LE wants to do a quick sting, get some busts & get it in the paper & go back to real Police work.  

If you are a High Value Target, a ranking Military Officer, politician, public figure...  the risk changes.

that goes with your handle, and admitting your review is actually NOT fiction. I did hear that they were 'trying' to bust girls then give them one count of prostitution for every review, but never heard it went through yet. That would be something. I mean how many guys are going to admit they saw her lol.

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Thinking otherwise is simply fooling yourself.

bluepillman431 reads

it might be the least of your worries if you hobby. Your odds of getting set up in a sting are much greater or the lady getting busted and having your personal info turned over to the wrong hands all outweigh whatever the minimal risk is in writing reviews. In other words, there are much bigger things to worry about.

back in August 2008. VIP customers of Desert Divas were indicted for supporting a criminal enterprise. LE used the reviews they wrote as evidence.

Posted By: Drewrltr
I am very new to this and very excited that I found TER. I heard over the weekend LE had shut down three different massage parlors in Salt Lake City and I became very nervous all of the sudden. Should I be worried ?

Did the agency have the handle and real name on some type of log, because that would be the only way to put the info. together. If there is no record of hiddenhills being John Smith, no one can prove you wrote those reviews under the handle. Is TER now giving out private credit card info? I highly doubt it, and that would be the only other way to get those two things to connect...unless of course, LE has infiltrated the site somehow like with e.com. Nothing ever came of that either.

Assuming the agency's records included real names (which they did) and TER handles. I assume that the people indicted were almost all local. If I am reading the information properly, they indicted less than 40 guys off a client list of 6000 (supposedly). Not sure if that means only 40 posted reviews, or 40 posted reviews and were local, or maybe there was some other threshold in terms of time, number of reviews, or something????

I suspect that the key to making any charges stick were the records of the agency, and the testimony of someone at the agency that such records were valid, probably testimony delivered at the wrong end of a loaded gun... I mean as a plea bargain faced with a lot of felony charges. Point is that reviews in and of themselves are not sufficient to get you into trouble because it is impossible to prove anything with them absent some sort of corroboration.

zig

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